Just wondering which stack would put the most lean body mass (with the same diet, training & sleep)

[Isrrike]

All good man, but no need to bash naturals. Some of them mamage to look really good, it's not about size, but proportions. 180-200lbs lean natural can put to shame some steroid users.

100% I’m just saying putting your body through 6 cycles which I’m guessing he’s running them 20 weeks plus at a time and I guarantee he’s not as lean as he says he is

 

[DugPrime]

All good man, but no need to bash naturals. Some of them mamage to look really good, it's not about size, but proportions. 180-200lbs lean natural can put to shame some steroid users.

This. And also I was 155lbs, now 195lbs

 

[DugPrime]

100% I’m just saying putting your body through 6 cycles which I’m guessing he’s running them 20 weeks plus at a time and I guarantee he’s not as lean as he says he is

Now I'm not lean, I'm maybe at 13-14% but I'm at 80% of my bulking cycle, I will cut right after during the cruise.

 

[lukiss96]

Now I'm not lean, I'm maybe at 13-14% but I'm at 80% of my bulking cycle, I will cut right after during the cruise.

Yeah, when I get lean like 10-12% body fat my weight drops to 220lbs. When I'm around 15-16% I'm 230+ and so on.

So being lean with a six pack slashes pounds off mercilessly. When you think you need to lose 5-6lbs in reality it turns to 10-15lbs.

P.S. not saying we don't have monsters here who walk 250-260 lean though, but it's a rarity.

 

[LSDPowerlifting]

Honestly I won't go with Insulin because of the risks, and HGH because of the price. But, why wouldn't I choose simple Tren/Test stack?

Taking tren for 40 weeks is a lot more dangerous than taking insulin

 

[DugPrime]

Taking tren for 40 weeks is a lot more dangerous than taking insulin

Insulin can kill you after a single dose. And I won't die bc of the toxicity of tren, but I can die bc of a high blood pressure, or bad blood markers, but I'm monitoring everything.

 

[Mongo966]

Insulin can kill you after a single dose. And I won't die bc of the toxicity of tren, but I can die bc of a high blood pressure, or bad blood markers, but I'm monitoring everything.

I wonder if your kidneys will still love you after 10 months of tren and 300 gallons of milk.

 

[DugPrime]

I wonder if your kidneys will still love you after 10 months of tren and 300 gallons of milk.

I was planning to take NAC to reduce the nephrotoxicity, I guess it's enough?

 

[Mongo966]

I was planning to take NAC to reduce the nephrotoxicity, I guess it's enough?

I don't know enough to say for sure.

 

[DugPrime]

I don't know enough to say for sure.

I will monitor my blood anyway, so if there is any kidney issue I should see it, and immediately stop the tren.

edit : I will even reduce the cycle length, from 40 weeks to 30.

 

[Isrrike]

Bloodwork doesn’t show everything you think it does. It doesn’t show growths it doesn’t show tumours it doesn’t show cancer and it doesn’t show remodelling. Tren remodelled my heart to the point it was twice as heavy and pumping at 39%. Only seen on a cardiac mri. It took me 4 years and major changes and medicine to reverse it and I am still not 100%.

 

[Mongo966]

I will monitor my blood anyway, so if there is any kidney issue I should see it, and immediately stop the tren.

edit : I will even reduce the cycle length, from 40 weeks to 30.

If you have to drink milk for the calories I'd say you're probably better off drinking heavier milk. 1% is only 100 calories per cup. I drink Natrel Plus these days. It's 150 cal per cup and 18g of protein(twice as much protein as 1%).

 

[DugPrime]

If you have to drink milk for the calories I'd say you're probably better off drinking heavier milk. 1% is only 100 calories per cup. I drink Natrel Plus these days. It's 150 cal per cup and 18g of protein(twice as much protein as 1%).

I'm drinking full milk, it's 650 calories per liters and 36g of proteins

 

[Mongo966]

I'm drinking full milk, it's 650 calories per liters and 36g of proteins

Oh I thought it was 1%. MY BAD.

Bloodwork doesn’t show everything you think it does. It doesn’t show growths it doesn’t show tumours it doesn’t show cancer and it doesn’t show remodelling. Tren remodelled my heart to the point it was twice as heavy and pumping at 39%. Only seen on a cardiac mri. It took me 4 years and major changes and medicine to reverse it and I am still not 100%.

Bruh........

 

[DugPrime]

Bloodwork doesn’t show everything you think it does. It doesn’t show growths it doesn’t show tumours it doesn’t show cancer and it doesn’t show remodelling. Tren remodelled my heart to the point it was twice as heavy and pumping at 39%. Only seen on a cardiac mri. It took me 4 years and major changes and medicine to reverse it and I am still not 100%.

Damn that's bad bro, what caused that? Blood pressure? High heart rest rate? or anything else?

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Bloodwork doesn’t show everything you think it does. It doesn’t show growths it doesn’t show tumours it doesn’t show cancer and it doesn’t show remodelling. Tren remodelled my heart to the point it was twice as heavy and pumping at 39%. Only seen on a cardiac mri. It took me 4 years and major changes and medicine to reverse it and I am still not 100%.

How much tren usage, and heavy dosage?

 

[rus7ee]

750-1000 Test, 600-900 EQ, 500-750 Deca, 350-700 Anadrol.
Be somebody.

how would you manage your estrogen in this cycle scenario

 

[Mongo966]

how would you manage your estrogen in this cycle scenario

Oh I don't know. I've never ran anything close to that lol
I was just talking that shit.

 

[bigboy9]

750-1000 Test, 600-900 EQ, 500-750 Deca, 350-700 Anadrol.
Be somebody.

Go to bulk cycle right there 1.2 test, 600 eq and 450 deca, used to love anadrol but they don't love me anymore lol