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[showstoppa]

IM is like a child throwing a tantrum, just ignore him if.you want him to stop.

 

[brutus79]

You started with good intentions then just started throwing shit every where. And I have know K for almost 14 years on these boards and still consider his lab one of the best there is. And I never would have handled it this away because like Ben I am following from the old school boards. But the bottom line is meso is the wild west and they can post what ever. They posted proof to their claim. That is more then I can say for you and IM.

The shit you are sticking to is labmax is unreliable? Thats fine but you have very little proof of that. My personal opinion is like mass spec testing for tabs, lab max is not as reliable. Hplc is the way to go on tabs. But at least they have something to show, your proof is "lab max is unreliable because I said so" wtf kind of evidence is that.

Oh and I didn't polish anyone off. You can go fuck yourself. You don't know shit, you have been around for a whole two seconds and think you are high and mighty.

If you knew Karius you would know he doesn't appreciate people like you and IM. He never has. You could have said your piece and be done with but you didn't, you decided to act like a dick rider.

And I got in this after I asked IM to back off and this acting like a complete douche was not a good lpok for him. I reached put as a fellow vet but he spit in my face so fuck hiM and you. If y'all want to ride Karius's dick out on the board, fine go ahead. But don't be a sneaky bitch about it and send pms saying how his stuff wasn't that great. Be a fucking man about it and own those comments.

I am rambling now, but the bottom line is you and IM27 wanna come on here and preach to do things the old school way blah blah blah yet you turn around and do the same thing just opposite.

@ItalianMuscle27 in case you missed the history of how worthless you are.

I was vip at plenty of places before ord, it doesn't mean shit. Did nothing but cause me hell

Back in the day im27 was lumped in with the likes of steveray, just pawns in the game. Ain't shit changed, kust granite is the new steveray.

For those who dont know who steveray is, look up the article on vpx about pinnacle labs. Just a useful pawn.

Cbs all this won't make him stop, he doesn't know better. He has always been like this. Thinks he knows better.

IM27 it didn't have to be like this, I reached a hand out and you slapped it away. All the talk about how to handle something and then you do the exact opposite. Know why you were never a mod on any respected board and never will be? Because you are a child, a liability that will sing like crazy if popped. Regular amd myo are examples of what a mod should be and act like.

I wish ben was here to call you out and validate everything I have said. You talk just like gymace, jtp, outlaw admin, and all the rest that sang like bitches.

Why the fuck does his record matter? Every person on these forums is guilty conspiracy every damn time they post in this section or ab's source section. We are all possible felons.

And im would you be riding people that got busted in ord? Your friends, the ones that didn't rat? You know the ones who did time and didn't give people like you up? What about ben?

This convict shit is fucking retarded. This whole thread has gotten absurd except for post by regular and millard.

Karius needs to just address JB and Brutus. Im27 you need to just stfu and stop, same with granite. This shit doesn't concern yall. You said your piece now stfu already.

I sent the pm as a courtesy as I have known you a long time, you essentially spit in my face. So fuck you.

Were you telling me to go fuck myself when you were asking for a powder source? Big bad vip like you should have access to the best right?

Lets be honest here IM, the only reason you are a vip is because you made it through ord unscathed and loyalty as evidence by this thread. But I leave the boards for a couple of years and guess what you are still the same person. You haven't learned shit. Still the same lil bitch from back in the day. Know how I know you aren't on the take from Karius? Because he would never hire someone like you to be a rep, too much at stake.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

IM is like a child throwing a tantrum, just ignore him if.you want him to stop.

I don't care if he stops, it's humorous at this point.. Just letting his true colors shine through..

 

[brutus79]

IM is like a child throwing a tantrum, just ignore him if.you want him to stop.

Fine, fine. IM is on timeout.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

@ItalianMuscle27 in case you missed the history of how worthless you are.

I was just going to sit down and do that... hahaha

 

[tacohuman]

IM could you tell me what forums you're on? I dont want anything to do with forums that allow an imbecile like you to run rampant.

 

[showstoppa]

The sad part is AB is probably the best forum or close to it on the net(meso is also up there)

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

What's the matter IM? Cat got your tongue after realizing your 10 year history won't be brushed under the rug? No response when your ass is put in the spotlight?? Nope!! You'll just show back up tomorrow as if this is all forgotten!! That's how your damaged brain works.. Lay off the Molly, stop going to raves, I mean you're in your 40's right?!

I used to beat the fuck out of "tough guys" like you all through school, until I grew up.. You've been a bully since your fat ass was in 3rd grade, that's your way of feeling superior.. I mean you'll never feel socially accepted so what else can you do? You've got DEEP freaking issues..

Your VIP. badge means nothing here and you never will.. People are afraid to speak up against you on other boards because you'll carry on a flame war for months.. Who wants to deal with your childish bullshit? So there you go "tough guy", people are afraid of you on other boards... Not here homeslice, not fucking here.. No mods to delete shit and swing things into your favor.

 

[graniteman]

No doubt K is a good guy and I have zero doubt if his test results are bad he makes things right. But lets be honest this isn't the first time he has had problems with labmax testing. There is a long ass thread on AB in which a couple of his products failed.

K is at the mercy of the Chinese just like the rest of us. If he is not testing every batch then he doesn't know what is in it, period.

This is actually a great post! Go read the posts and look at the ecstacy.org results and you will see these idiots saying labmax is the final word, were proved wrong. His var was said to be labmax tested as winny and when mass spec tested it was found to be completely wrong.
Are you guys drinking the koolaide B and Jbalhugger gave you still?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

This is actually a great post! Go read the posts and look at the ecstacy.org results and you will see these idiots saying labmax is the final word, were proved wrong. His var was said to be labmax tested as winny and when mass spec tested it was found to be completely wrong.
Are you guys drinking the koolaide B and Jbalhugger gave you still?

That was with a sample K had sent in!! How does that negate a consumers labmax test!! He's been caught with this before and it all goes away if he can get ecstasy data to say there's a fraction of the what hormone is supposed to be in the tab. That's why you keep pushing ecstasy data.. So much for "no other complaints"...

You're so over your head you don't even realize it..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Jballhugger, I'm done because after this many pages it's occurred to me your not worth the effort. You are as childish as your name and like your name you have no skills or talent so mouthing off is your only outlet , internet tuff guy


Arguing with windowlickers is like pissin against the wind, our convo's are proof of this. Yea, I made out like a bandit there cbs, an hour or so of my life I'll never get back



I think you're wrong about IM. If you go back to the earlier threads, the dirty diaper gang here called him a scammer. We both know in the game that is a no go.
Anyways like I said before I hope B deals with this or his claims are verified or his name is mud. If not you guys will have no choice but to ban him and his cohorts IF you want to be taken seriously

You keep saying you're done here but keep wandering back... Promises, promises...

Brutus or/and Isould be banned for giving a review in a review forum? How so? What the fuck are you talking about?!?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

It is absolutely hilarious that you both can go on for hours and hours but once the truth about something is brought up you have nothing to say until the next day comes and you pretend like everyone forgot about it..

 

[regular]

True. And I agree.

But I never argued that false representations were not harmful to both parties. There was an important word in your original argument in which you said that false representations were "equally" harmful to both parties.

In scenario one, the probability that all end users will be harmed in that they will not have the benefit of selective estrogen receptor modulation is 100%. It is guaranteed.

In scenario two, the probability that all end users will be harmed in that they will not have the benefit of selective estrogen receptor modulation is certainly much less than 100%.

The harm to the consumer is not equal in the scenarios. The consumer experiences relatively greater harm in one scenario.

I think you have me here. However, I can count on one hand the amount of open sources I would use. If consumers are steered off of the few good guys, the probability of them using someone poor and eventually getting scammed is very high.

Many people may find it "pretty much useless". I can not deny it. It is much like end users who post testing evidence that is contrary to expectations. We've seen how that works in this thread. Ironically, the paradigm that you described has also been used to explain this.


I support the posting of testing evidence in both scenarios. The value of posting the evidence is not that it is infallible. The value lies in the fact that it provides an opportunity for the results to be replicated and confirmed. This helps us arrive at a closer approximation to the truth.

I see your point but it's a crapshoot.

I believe the problem there is no verifiable lab in existence do do the testing, and any lab suggested by either party will not be good enough and dismissed. To bad k won't come here himself and handle this. He did start the thread right ?

The evidence is very easily manipulated and therefore suspect no matter what the results.

As far as I know K posted his list here, then abandoned this thread because he couldn't edit his list. I don't think he is even coming over here to check this thread. I sent him a PM and asked him to get with JB and Brutus.

IM, you are one sick dude. Spending all day hopping from forum to forum isn't a healthy pursuit for anyone but when the online world becomes your entire life, as it obviously has in your case, you begin to lose your sense of reality. But when you combine the virtual world that has become your reality with the overwhelming rage that makes you to lash out with hateful and vicious attacks, it suggests you are suffering from serious mental illness. Something is very, very wrong with you. You need help, IM. And I hope you get it before it's too late. I mean that sincerely.


I'm incredulous that IM has been allowed to retain his VIP status on any board.


Moderators and admins, is whatever "good" IM has done in the past worth the damage that is being done to your reputations and your board's reputations by allowing him to behave this way while still possessing your official endorsement? Can you honestly say that someone who behaves as IM does is the image you want for VIP's on your forum? Is he the image you want for your forum?

The desire IM and you have to antagonize each other has nothing to do with me. I've pointed out that you guys are wasting your time antagonizing each other.

@regular, @mugzy, @myosaurus, @KariusM and others, read these posts and this thread. You have given this man your official endorsement. He is the public face of your respective forums. These posts don't represent what a VIP is supposed to be. You are being humiliated by this man. He is spitting in your face.

I'm do not feel humiliated by you guys slinging mud at each other. I have always treated IM with respect and in turn he has treated me with respect. He and I get along fine.

I tested 4 products.

One was dbol and tested as such. It passed.

One was var which failed because 1/4 pill didn't cause a reaction. A 5mg pill would have failed and a 20mg pill would have passed. XD will give a pass to both.

The Nolva was borderline, as I have said multiple times. It turned red and crackled like dbol does, but the end color was in between what I would expect from Nolva or dbol. I had an observer who said it passed. All this I explained somewhere in this thread. Again, XD would give it a pass should it be Nolva contaminated with a little dbol.

The drol turned the clen test bright green when it should have been grey. A definite fail. I should have tried testing it in the A-B vials as well and tried to figure out what it really is. XD might be useful here.

I think the issue is that labmax will fail due to minor contamination. XD will not. I fully expected K to order MS after he saw the labmax reports. What happened in this thread is sad and embarrassing.

What's happening is a bunch of guys who don't like each other are antagonizing each other. Like I said before, as far as I know K abandoned this thread because he couldn't update his list. I don't think K even knows any of this is going on. I stop by here from time to time to check my PMs and I saw everyone antagonizing each other.

No doubt K is a good guy and I have zero doubt if his test results are bad he makes things right. But lets be honest this isn't the first time he has had problems with labmax testing. There is a long ass thread on AB in which a couple of his products failed.

K is at the mercy of the Chinese just like the rest of us. If he is not testing every batch then he doesn't know what is in it, period.

Name one source who provides verifiable evidence that they test every batch of product they sell.

 

[showstoppa]

No body does anymore since srcs was shut down. Well I take that back a couple on eroids do. Point is though that the powder isn't the quality it used to be, if you aren't testing you really have no idea what you are selling. At least do a god damn labmax on the raws

Now with that being said, imo labmax isn't good for pressed tabs because of the density and dyes. Same with mass spec testing of them, needs to be hplc.

 

[regular]

Brutus and IM were getting along fine in the granbolic thread. I don't know about other boards as this is my home and I need a reference to join ab. But I will never ask anybody to vouch for me as I believe my character will eventually speak for it self.
Regards Mr.Bravo

I just registered an account and there was no referrer requirement. If your registration is blocked due to a referrer, can you please PM me a screenshot of you being blocked?

Also, I registered an account everyone can use as a reference, the username is "Meso.Ref"

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Brutus and IM were getting along fine in the granbolic thread. I don't know about other boards as this is my home and I need a reference to join ab. But I will never ask anybody to vouch for me as I believe my character will eventually speak for it self.
Regards Mr.Bravo

I just registered an account and there was no referrer requirement. If your registration is blocked due to a referrer, can you please PM me a screenshot of you being blocked?

Also, I registered an account everyone can use as a reference, the username is "Meso.Ref"

I liked Bravo's post as IM, brutus, most others and I were all getting along fine in that thread before this... There is no deep past between IM and brutus.. A minor dispute a long time ago that they resolved on their own..

I didn't need a referral back I'm April to make an account there..

 

[graniteman]

No body does anymore since srcs was shut down. Well I take that back a couple on eroids do. Point is though that the powder isn't the quality it used to be, if you aren't testing you really have no idea what you are selling. At least do a god damn labmax on the raws

Now with that being said, imo labmax isn't good for pressed tabs because of the density and dyes. Same with mass spec testing of them, needs to be hplc.

Labmax itself says ''Dyes do not effect the test'' and tabs are simply crushed, the mass spec site we gave you pretty much does nothing but test tabs. Guess the Licensed Labs need to get in touch with you guys? What we have here is a bunch of internet scientists with no foundation claiming to be experts on a subject they know nothing but what someone on a laptop has told them.

 

[graniteman]

@showstoppa, you change your mind on this or what? This is you posting isn't it?


showstoppa

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Good to see you taking care of this k.

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[johnnyBALLZ]

Labmax itself says ''Dyes do not effect the test'' and tabs are simply crushed, the mass spec site we gave you pretty much does nothing but test tabs. Guess the Licensed Labs need to get in touch with you guys? What we have here is a bunch of internet scientists with no foundation claiming to be experts on a subject they know nothing but what someone on a laptop has told them.

@showstoppa, you change your mind on this or what? This is you posting isn't it?


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Good to see you taking care of this k.

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What the hell are you talking about now?

Keep pushing for the asshole that hasn't privately responded to brutus or I in 19 days now..

Fuck you, have another drink and go back to bed.. I've had too good of a day to listen to your geriatric ass tonight..

 

[showstoppa]

Yea because k hasn't taken care of it. I posted that when he said he was on it.

And my beliefs on lab max, are just that, mine.

And if they want to send off the tabs that is up to them. My main beef in this thread was with IM.

And as far as karius sending in a var tab that tested positive, well I would hope so, he sent it.

Bottom line is the while situation is between the guys that bought the tabs and karius. That was my while reason for jumping in, because IM was acting like a complete douche bag, I asked him to stop because it didn't involve him and he told me to fuck off.