Keeping muscle fullness on tren/mast/T3 cut cycle

[Hacksaw Jim]

After my current lean bulk cycle run with NPP/Test P and cytomel,, I plan to do a cut cycle utilizing tren ace at 500mg/week, mast prop at 490mg/week, test prop at 140mg/week and cytomel at 50mcg/day for about 8 to 12 weeks. I will likely utilize the clen/ketotifen stack for the last 5 weeks of the cycle. Now,, I know very well that oral steroids like superdrol and anadrol do a good job at keeping muscle fullness during a cutting phase. So,, my question is,, what do you guys all figure are the best injectable steroids for me to use to keep muscle fullness during this type of cut cycle (without the use of orals)? Or are orals simply the best way to go?

 

[Dead]

No one said anadrol? I know anadrol keeps me full as fuck. And according to studies burns fat, ya like 7lbs of it in 18 weeks

 

[Dead]

He's asking about muscle fullness and you recommend the two most flattening drugs there are... DNP and T3.

Get lost.

LOL

 

[Dead]

OP wants a CUTTING cycle
DIET is the main ingredient in cutting cycles.
DIETING is crucial.

So he can use some LOW t3 dosages to get some energy and overcome diet tiredness.

He can also use some low/moderate DNP dosages to burn fat despite his diet being a bit sloppy.

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Hahahaha the fuckin link he added! I’m dying.

 

[Eman]

Hahahaha the fuckin link he added! I’m dying.

yeah, master.none is good for a laugh and useless information/cycle advice.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

You said test at just 140/week?

I’d probably run that:
- if you’re a tren over test guy > 350mg
- if you’re not > 500mg

That’s preference. But 140 seems low.

500/500 for mast and tren is perfect if you’re experienced with them both.

So since I am a tren over test guy,, my cutting cycle should look like this,,, test prop 350mg/ week, tren ace 500mg/week and masteron prop 500mg/week. Cycle length should be about 12 weeks or longer? At what point should I add I add in the T3 and clen?

 

[88general88]

After my current lean bulk cycle run with NPP/Test P and cytomel,, I plan to do a cut cycle utilizing tren ace at 500mg/week, mast prop at 490mg/week, test prop at 140mg/week and cytomel at 50mcg/day for about 8 to 12 weeks. I will likely utilize the clen/ketotifen stack for the last 5 weeks of the cycle. Now,, I know very well that oral steroids like superdrol and anadrol do a good job at keeping muscle fullness during a cutting phase. So,, my question is,, what do you guys all figure are the best injectable steroids for me to use to keep muscle fullness during this type of cut cycle (without the use of orals)? Or are orals simply the best way to go?

in reality I think your request is a tough one and looking for a solution that very well could be counterproductive for your goals. With that being said, Have you thought about mk 677. Everyone that I have spoken to that has taken it while dieting to hold on to as much muscle as possible says they stay pretty full. Also, the t3 is going to keep you really flat. I understand the need to keep thyroid up because of the tren, but t4 would probably be better, or dump the thyroid shit and run ECA .

 

[88general88]

So since I am a tren over test guy,, my cutting cycle should look like this,,, test prop 350mg/ week, tren ace 500mg/week and masteron prop 500mg/week. Cycle length should be about 12 weeks or longer? At what point should I add I add in the T3 and clen?

You should always be running some type of thyroid support while using tren. This can be seen if you pull blood prior to running tren and then haveway throughout. T4 and t3 will be significantly lower on mid cycle bloodwork. t3 needs to be taken in the am on a empty stomach and you need to wait for at least 30min before eating anything and at least an hour before drinking coffee, coffee causes it to not be absorbed. So if you don’t want to be counterproductive try and abide by these rules. For taking it.

 

[Test_Subject]

So you're here to let everyone know that T3 and DNP are fat burners... thanks for that useful advice, I'm sure no one on the forum was aware that T3 and DNP were used for this purpose.

Here I've been taking DNP to get thicc. I wondered why it wasn't working

 

[88general88]

Here I've been taking DNP to get thicc. I wondered why it wasn't working

Hey bro no harm no foul. Atleast you weren’t giving DnP to your girlfriend every night before hopping in bed with her. My buddy promised me that if I she got DNP she would love me forever. Then I found out IT was called DP. Oh well, that ass of hers has never looked better. Lololol

 

[m314]

I like the idea of switching mast for primo. Primo at 500 mg/week keeps me full and round while staying dry. Low dose trestolone (70 mg/week) also adds fullness on a low calorie diet without water retention.

 

[88general88]

I like the idea of switching mast for primo. Primo at 500 mg/week keeps me full and round while staying dry. Low dose trestolone (70 mg/week) also adds fullness on a low calorie diet without water retention.

Lol...that’s funny that you think 70mg is a low dose of trestolone. Also, this guy is trying to cut. Trestolone would fucking blow him the fuck up. Are you sure you are talking about the right compound. 25mg of trestolone would be considered a low dose. That compound is a 19nor and he is going to be using tren. MENT is methyl-estradiol, for a guy looking to slim down, I don’t really think this guys wants to have to worry about the fucking fiasco TREST/MENT will bring to his doorstep with the addition of tren.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Lol...that’s funny that you think 70mg is a low dose of trestolone. Also, this guy is trying to cut. Trestolone would fucking blow him the fuck up. Are you sure you are talking about the right compound. 25mg of trestolone would be considered a low dose. That compound is a 19nor and he is going to be using tren. The MENT is methyl-estradiol, for a guy looking to slim down, I don’t really think this guys wants to have to worry about the fucking fiasco TREST/MENT will bring to his doorstep with the addition of tren. Come On bro.

He said 70 mg/WEEK, bud.

 

[88general88]

He said 70 mg/WEEK, bud.

Oh my my bad. @BigBaldBeardGuy good looking out, I read it as 70mg as in Ed. Yeah I guess that would be a low dose of ment. But it still doesn’t take away from the fact that ment should not just be randomly tossed into some cycle just to keep someone full. Still think it should be used by Itself or low dose of test to get a reading on it first.

 

[m314]

I get zero side effects from trest ace at 10 mg/day. You're right, though. It's good to try something that powerful on its own (or with TRT test) before adding it to a cycle.

I actually think of 25 - 30 mg/day as a high dose for me. I love doses like that, but the water retention would hide some muscle definition on a cut.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

in reality I think your request is a tough one and looking for a solution that very well could be counterproductive for your goals. With that being said, Have you thought about mk 677. Everyone that I have spoken to that has taken it while dieting to hold on to as much muscle as possible says they stay pretty full. Also, the t3 is going to keep you really flat. I understand the need to keep thyroid up because of the tren, but t4 would probably be better, or dump the thyroid shit and run ECA .

I just looked into MK 677 now,, and one of the side effects of it is lethargy,, which I want to avoid by all means. So I think I will have to pass up on that one,, as some AAS will make me lethargic and I don't want to add another compound to add to that

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Switch out the mast for high primo or DHB.

How much of a DHB dose would you recommend solely for muscle fullness?

 

[Munky]

Hey about 10mg of mk677 will give you more fullness, it's a nice add on to any cycle, 25 mg you can greatly increase igf1 , just a suggestion I'm running Pareto mk677 , I'm in Canada they are a great lab , these new research supplements are okay for research lol, I run test enthanate and NPP , armosin, clen spray, right now, mk677 30 mg

 

[Munky]

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[Munky]

He's asking about muscle fullness and you recommend the two most flattening drugs there are... DNP and T3.

Get lost.

Eman your a crazy fawker lol love ya brotha!!!

 

[Munky]

Upping the carbs always makes me explode lol