Ketamine?

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The amount of random discriminatory and judgemental comments in this thread is quite perplexing. Is the aas community really that closed off? Everybody here is a drug users. Period. And if somebody is using psychedelics, or something else, in a non decadent fashion, that is miles away from being a junkie and actually, in the context of psychedelics, it's rather the opposite. And even if somebody is a junkie, so fucking what? They are probably in their own version of hell, they are suffering enough, they don't need your condescending judgement.

For somebody a right dose of aas hits the spot and for somebody else, a good dmt trip. No need to be so closed off and judgemental. Aas have a profound effect on ones personality. The downstream dopaminergic effects give you drive and motivation and combined with the increased AR activation gives you aggression and assertiveness. And all together is fuelling the blind obsession with bodybuilding. If aas had absolutely zero effect on brain chemistry, I'd say that a big chunk of current users - wouldn't be users. Does that vial of test, or better yet; trest, look delicious? Do you just can't wait to inject it? Guess what, that's the dopamine habituation's effect from aas. It"s the same with weed or coke. The same as that piece of brown afgan hash or that white powder looks so appetizing, it's quite the same with aas. Whenever you do something and that behaviour leads to dopamine, you get "habituated" to that behaviour. And whenever you start seeing yourself romanticizing about some object, you have a visceral positive response to it when you see it, that's the dopamine that though you that that (food, drug, behaviour) is good and it leads to pleasure. So news flash, most aas users are thus, when confined to such a narrow minded dissection: druggies, just waiting for their next juicy shot of that npp or dbol.

Was just going to overlook all those comments, as it's a bee's nest, but the sheer amount of delusional stupidity on these bb forums is sometimes just to overwhelming and imo it shines a negative light on us. Have a good one.
 
The amount of random discriminatory and judgemental comments in this thread is quite perplexing. Is the aas community really that closed off? Everybody here is a drug users. Period. And if somebody is using psychedelics, or something else, in a non decadent fashion, that is miles away from being a junkie and actually, in the context of psychedelics, it's rather the opposite. And even if somebody is a junkie, so fucking what? They are probably in their own version of hell, they are suffering enough, they don't need your condescending judgement.

For somebody a right dose of aas hits the spot and for somebody else, a good dmt trip. No need to be so closed off and judgemental. Aas have a profound effect on ones personality. The downstream dopaminergic effects give you drive and motivation and combined with the increased AR activation gives you aggression and assertiveness. And all together is fuelling the blind obsession with bodybuilding. If aas had absolutely zero effect on brain chemistry, I'd say that a big chunk of current users - wouldn't be users. Does that vial of test, or better yet; trest, look delicious? Do you just can't wait to inject it? Guess what, that's the dopamine habituation's effect from aas. It"s the same with weed or coke. The same as that piece of brown afgan hash or that white powder looks so appetizing, it's quite the same with aas. Whenever you do something and that behaviour leads to dopamine, you get "habituated" to that behaviour. And whenever you start seeing yourself romanticizing about some object, you have a visceral positive response to it when you see it, that's the dopamine that though you that that (food, drug, behaviour) is good and it leads to pleasure. So news flash, most aas users are thus, when confined to such a narrow minded dissection: druggies, just waiting for their next juicy shot of that npp or dbol.

Was just going to overlook all those comments, as it's a bee's nest, but the sheer amount of delusional stupidity on these bb forums is sometimes just to overwhelming and imo it shines a negative light on us. Have a good one.
What I got out of this preaching post is that we all look forward to shooting up our juicy injects or popping our morning anavar tab so we can get high.

Using your logic shouldn't we all be using TNE and cheque. drops instead of sustnon, deca, var so we can get the most juicy rush and euphoric effect possible? I know I took my .5cc prop./.5cc tren shot an hour ago, how many hours should I wait to come down from this amazing high before im safe to drive to the gym?

Or, maybe. guys just shoot gear because its a necessary evil to look good.
 
I wonder what happens if we start inhaling tren/
I don’t plan on this until I’m super old and my kids are full grown, BUT I’d love to try DMT once before I die.
it's basically like going into a crazy dream... my DMT was something else.
 
Is it possible that the ketamine caused you to eat and drink less and thus you have less poop and water in your body? It is not uncommon for me to wake up 5 pounds lighter. I made a thread actually because once I woke up a whopping 10 pounds lighter than when I went to bed. There is no way I pee'd out water and the respiratory quotient for water loss from breathing doesn't add up. Sometimes the body is simply a mystery lol.

My guess is you ate less and drank less due to the trip. 300 mg is a very large dose. Last time I did K it didn't feel so good. My girlfriend said she turned into a volcano haha. Drugs r cool lmao.

I miss methoxetamine. That was good shit. I had one particular trip where the entire universe was converging on the center of my forehead, right into my "third eye" (I don't even know if I believe in chakras, I am not a particularly spiritual person) but this is what I felt, something was there for some reason, it was almost as if a third eye had woken up and allowed me to see things I could never otherwise see. Shit was insane). I felt super warm but wasn't sweating. I had a black light on in my room and just silence other than the white noise of an air filter (highly recommend this while tripping, it can help deepen the trip). With my eyes closed, I was literally flying through outer space and could see every color on the radiation spectrum. I was flying past colorful galaxies and planets on an interstellar ride that sadly was never replicated.

Just don't do Ketamine too often, no moer than once a month is ideal. Because it does cause neurons to "Freeze" and if you do it again too soon they can die off.
you're a fucking retard
 
Buncha drug abusing cunts in this thread
I feel like half the world is on drugs. I saw a post on FB about a football player who died his drug was laced with fentanyl. It had like 2k comments of everyday people saying they carry around some narcan stuff and have test kits to test their drugs. I must have grown up in a twilight zone I swore we were told to not use drugs these kids must be different.
 
Never done ketamine but I've heard some good and bad stories. Personally, I can't even do weed without getting a bad trip, but that could be down to medication I was once on. I love a beer, but it would be nice to try something without the calories of you know what I mean. Its still interesting though, based on your ketamine high, it doesn't sound like something you would take for the club. Is it comparable to a weed high?
Ketamine is the answer to the booze bodybuilder dilemma imo.
 
When did meso be a place for questions on recreational drugs? You really think guys using this stuff are concerned with whether it acts as a diuretic?

You should probably ask this on bluelight, imo it doesn't belong here.
Actually OP did ask a bodybuilding related question. Diuretic properties or muscle wasting? Is what I got from that. I did k and thought holy shit does it your muscle? K being a salt I knew it would dehydrate me, but to that extent?
It’s harm reduction as well, if it’s a muscle waisting drug that should be known.
K is also a PED when you think of it like an SSRI. Mental performance enhancement.
 
I mean it is possible. NMDA is responsible for ion channel opening, allowing sodium and calcium into the cells and potassium out of the cell. So being an NMDA antagonist, it's possible that a high dose of ketamine like OP took (really, 300 mg IM is a very large dose) could possible cause cells to block off intake of sodium and calcium temporarily, thus potentially a diuretic effect could occur? I really have no idea, the physiology is beyond me at that point. The half life is so short too, I can't imagine it could cause such a large loss in water so quickly. I also really can't find anything about NMDA receptors in skeletal muscle. All the research is in the brain and there are some in smooth muscle such as pulmonary arteries. You may be better off asking if NMDA antagonists have an diuretic effect over at reddit r/drugnerds.
 
Whenever you do something and that behaviour leads to dopamine, you get "habituated" to that behaviour. And whenever you start seeing yourself romanticizing about some object, you have a visceral positive response to it when you see it, that's the dopamine that though you that that (food, drug, behaviour) is good and it leads to pleasure.
It's also shown in a 2020 study that testosterone administration acts causes dopamine release too.
 
It is ironic how people are judging on here. I argue alcohol and cigs are worse, and in fact, have killed more people than any rec drugs we know, obviously next to opiates, which got a boost from Big Pharm and its unethical practices
 
It's also shown in a 2020 study that testosterone administration acts causes dopamine release too.

Nice. I just quickly google scholared and there seem to be multiple studies in 2020 citing test and dopamine interaction. Which one are you referencing specifically if you remember? I'd love to give it a read ... Tnx
 
@MFAAS I just read your comment on neurons freezing on ket. I get really anxious on ket and frozen like. You know, when you're so anxious that you can't move your head (for instance) fluidly ... I've come across this freezing of neurons on ket before, but haven't yet delved into it ...

Oh, nice trip report btw haha. Sounds great. I also always trip with music on my headphones, alone, with closed eyes. Last time I was listening to this album and damn, the drone soundscape had a unreal effect. Check it out, you might like it during a trip:
View: https://youtu.be/_WdRJZgkFgs
 
If I want to trip I stick to the classics, shrooms and LSD. The shrooms I grow on my own which is nice easy hobby in it's own, and I control the quality/strains etc.

Acid is more of a tossup since obviously I can't make that on my own, so I get it from friends who buy sheets and already know it's good. Acid is honestly my favorite of the two, but it's hard committing 8-10+ hours to being high. Shrooms are at least only 4-6 so they make for a fun evening
 
If I want to trip I stick to the classics, shrooms and LSD. The shrooms I grow on my own which is nice easy hobby in it's own, and I control the quality/strains etc.

Acid is more of a tossup since obviously I can't make that on my own, so I get it from friends who buy sheets and already know it's good. Acid is honestly my favorite of the two, but it's hard committing 8-10+ hours to being high. Shrooms are at least only 4-6 so they make for a fun evening
my buddy just bought frogs where he can extract their venom to make DMT lol.
 
Nice. I just quickly google scholared and there seem to be multiple studies in 2020 citing test and dopamine interaction. Which one are you referencing specifically if you remember? I'd love to give it a read ... Tnx
This one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306453019312934

You can use Sci hub to unlock full text ifdesired.

@MFAAS I just read your comment on neurons freezing on ket. I get really anxious on ket and frozen like. You know, when you're so anxious that you can't move your head (for instance) fluidly ... I've come across this freezing of neurons on ket before, but haven't yet delved into it ...

Oh, nice trip report btw haha. Sounds great. I also always trip with music on my headphones, alone, with closed eyes. Last time I was listening to this album and damn, the drone soundscape had a unreal effect. Check it out, you might like it during a trip:
View: https://youtu.be/_WdRJZgkFgs

Thanks man I will definitely check it out! I still like to use mushrooms one or maybe twice a year. They are a great antidepressant and make a weekend feel like a week off!
 
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