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Khem's Freak journey.
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Khem
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I have not taken a shot since last Saturday, if I'm not drastically improved by Tuesday I think I'm putting a nail on this cycle and jumping to a diet. Its pretty terrible timing but fuck me.
Khem - you got alot going for you , namely age & time . Youve got plenty of time to start over .Thats why us old guys get so pissed when we see young guys running dangerous cycles or cycling before they have a firm foundation .
Use this to your advantage , get your PCT right , go on a low cal/low carb/high protein diet and increase your reps . Drop the weight down and get your reps in the 10 range .
Give it 3 straight months , you'll be amazed what you can accomplish with just diet . Hook-up with 3J over at "ology if you cant do it by yourself , hes taught me lots and it will be the best $200 you've ever spent .....
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Khem
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I can get it done myself, the only reason I looked like I look is because I haven't put in the effort - -Which I have very clearly stated from the beginning. I haven't taken it seriously before.
TaoPhD
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I have no idea who 3J is but I agree with this. At the very least I say stop your cycle now. You are stressing your system out if you start again.
No , you need to be humble and you need to surrender . We all need help , no matter what our age is ....
TaoPhD
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Again, I agree. We aren't doing this to be assholes. EVERYONE is telling you the same thing for YOUR health. Please don't permanently fuck your self up because you are beimg impatient and vain
Khem
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I do not need to be told what goals make MYSELF happy. Lets be clear about that. Bulking makes me HAPPY right now. If I cannot continue in good health I will diet and I will make it happen. I'm not stupid about my vitals and important health markers. Natural testosterone is a sacrifice I'm willing to risk so long as my other markers are up to par.
You are not here to tell me what decisions will be best for my happiness. I'm not here telling you what you should be doing. We all know what we should do, but do what makes you happy and get advice for best health. Once that's clear, its all on you. Other than that we're all adults, make the most informed decisions based on whats best for YOU.. You're beating a dead horse with this diet shit. I've agreed dieting is best, but I've said what I needed to do for my happiness. Now I will make a choice depending on how improved my infection is by Tuesday. I have already done the responsible thing and skipped shots since being sick with this.
You are not here to tell me what decisions will be best for my happiness. I'm not here telling you what you should be doing. We all know what we should do, but do what makes you happy and get advice for best health. Once that's clear, its all on you. Other than that we're all adults, make the most informed decisions based on whats best for YOU.. You're beating a dead horse with this diet shit. I've agreed dieting is best, but I've said what I needed to do for my happiness. Now I will make a choice depending on how improved my infection is by Tuesday. I have already done the responsible thing and skipped shots since being sick with this.
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johnnyBALLZ
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I guess I misread a few pages back.. I thought you already decided to stop?? You're in your early 20's bro, you have no idea what you want but the choices you make now are going to effect the rest of your life.
Tao is being nice, why so defensive? Oh yea, early 20's..
You have the body of a middle aged desk jockey, this tells me you have no idea how to train or eat and that you look at gear as some sort of miracle liquid that's going to transform you in a matter of weeks. Not gonna happen.. Rest up, get better and visit some training forums.. You don't need gear, you need discipline.. And if you don't want to hear people's opinions don't post!! Otherwise assholes like me, sitting on their couches, bored on a Sunday afternoon are going to chime in..
fit2beking
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You're in your early 20's bro, you have no idea what you want but the choices you make now are going to effect the rest of your life.
Tao is being nice, why so defensive? Oh yea, early 20's..
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Khem
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Clearly my log isn't being read.. lol I've agreed with you guys relentlessly about my lack of progress prior to this cycle. There's a reason I'm getting frustrated reading this continually. I established this BEFORE anyone even posted. If anyone read the beginning posts clearly, you would see that my thought process is nearly identical, except that I've made the informed decision to grow before cutting.
Oh well. Clearly logic escapes many of you. You can stop posting the crap now, if you don't want to follow civilly, and informed, I don't want to listen.
Oh well. Clearly logic escapes many of you. You can stop posting the crap now, if you don't want to follow civilly, and informed, I don't want to listen.
TaoPhD
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And how many people told you before that you shouldn't cycle as young as you are? Did you listen then? Your diet was/is super clean? Then you state you will finish dieting after cycle?
How many people tried to tell you about diet before hand and yet you still don't look sharp?
You state you know the dangers with running gear yet you continue want to do so when your body is sick. You think that because you feel better you are recovered? Ever heard of relapse? You want to stress your body out with more exogenous chemicals because you know more than everybody?
You say that you had no one in particular to look up to so you went with the herd yet I have seen on multiple sites where guys try to mentor younger people away from AAS and help those who insist on using it.
You are impatient and arrogant to say the least. All this experience on here saying the same thing yet you are young and impulsive and have an ego that's only trumped by your inability to lose your softness. Oh, you don't have an ego? That must be evidenced by the title of your thread and by what was once mistaken as enthusiasm.
You want to talk about logic escaping many of us? How about how illogical it is that you continue to make the same mistakes, complain that you have no guidance, and then get pissy when you do get advice? Oh yeah, you don't want to hear it because it's not in alignment with your views. You want me off your thread? You got it. Good luck on not permanently fucking yourself up
Khem
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johnnyBALLZ
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You're right Khem.. You have the body of an Aztec warrior... You're super duper smart and your will to succeed is second to none.. <<<< This more what you're looking for?
TRT? Fuck it right?! Because in a few years when you decide to take a different path and never lift a weight again but still need to pin twice a week you'll be able to say it was all worth it!! Fuck the haters!! They just "jelly" they don't have your delts!! [
)]I'm done, this is pointless..
Khem
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You're right Khem.. You have the body of an Aztec warrior... You're super duper smart and your will to succeed is second to none.. <<<< This more what you're looking for?
TRT? Fuck it right?! Because in a few years when you decide to take a different path and never lift a weight again but still need to pin twice a week you'll be able to say it was all worth it!! Fuck the haters!! They just "jelly" they don't have your delts!! [
I'm done, this is pointless..
It is pointless to make assumptions about my personality and decisions like you can grasp what I will do in the future. You don't know me, you can't even fully understand that I have hit on all the diet points in my first posts. I covered all my bases before you even wasted the time to click on this thread.
Seriously, this isn't logic anymore, its controlling. I take advice from people who have physiques and goals far beyond mine. Not some random gym rats who can't even take the time to read before REPEATING what I've addressed a hundred times. You have nowhere near the physique I want and therefore your horribly insulting tone and advice is not welcomed. Thank you for your time. That goes for the few others who take the time to pretend they are somehow far superior and talk with condescending tone.
You want someone to listen to your advice? Give it appropriately and in an adult manner. You're the one throwing tantrums because I've said I've thought it through and decided.
You lot will not be responded to again, until you post something useful and can add to an adult discussion.
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loveyourbody
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Khem- honestly that is a really immature post. We are only trying to help you from making mistakes that you are going to regret in the future. We tell you from experience and what we have seen. I have a friend that started juicing at the age of 19. By the age of 25 we where both at about the same body stats. But, then I ran my first cycle and left him far behind. In both strength and looks. Also his sex drive is almost gone at the age of 28.
Stop your cycle, and get complete labs done. I can only imagine how far out of whack they are. You could fuck up your liver and kidneys!!!!!!! Sounds like you may have already done some damage. Regroup and get healthy first.
Please share your labs with the forum, besides helping yourself you would also be helping others as well.
Please share your labs with the forum, besides helping yourself you would also be helping others as well.
luckyduck
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You look at Ronnie Coleman. Arnold. Jay Cutler. What do all of these guys have in common. Bodybuilding genitics. They had a muscle foundation. Before building a brick house you need a foundation. Not everyone has this. And to think you will become one of them is very unrealistic. Work on your foundation and when you get older then think about a cycle. Just work on being the best you can be relisticly. If you don't you will get down on yourself and be depressed and miserable. Your still young, you have many years of training.
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Are you at SOI? "logic escapes many of you"? You're trying to escape reality but it continuously is looking back at you in the mirror. You're a very young 23, son, It's not too late. Big muscles aren't going to compensate for immaturity and foolishness.
You need to know your audience, Not everyone is old, but the majority of us, especially those of us up front have our feet on the ground and have some real life experience. You set yourself up for failure.
You act as if we let you down. Perhaps if the members here were made up of your peers/demographic which I venture to say would be made up of 15-17yr old 3.0 gpa, student council and band members. There' s nothing wrong with it. And just because we didn't play along in your fantasy doesn't mean we didn's support you. To the contrary, we didn't indulge you and ask that you get honest with yourself.
Khem
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I will choose my own goals, you are not to decide what is realistic or what I should aim for as the end goal. Nobody told you what job or net worth to shoot for. Nobody told you to be a swimmer, nobody told you to be a bodybuilder. Do you see the point? I choose my goals, you may advise but never try and tell me to change my dream in life.
Have I failed? Obviously, which is what I've said in my first post, and also why we're here talking about this.. I am turning it around. I am now very ill with this systematic infection and probably going to dive into a cut. I don't need you telling me I shouldn't aim for monstrous size. No one has the right to cut down a dream. I have laid out logic and a plan, you have simply come in trying to squash my goals because its "fantasy."
The purpose of a log is to critique progress and give tips, never to berate or cut some one down. If anybody is foolish, its you. I have approached this entire process with absurdly logical perspective and covered all thought process, as outlined in all my posts. I know what I want to achieve and I know the pros and cons of achieving it. All there is now is to bust ass and make it happen, stumble and learn upon the way.
Have I failed? Obviously, which is what I've said in my first post, and also why we're here talking about this.. I am turning it around. I am now very ill with this systematic infection and probably going to dive into a cut. I don't need you telling me I shouldn't aim for monstrous size. No one has the right to cut down a dream. I have laid out logic and a plan, you have simply come in trying to squash my goals because its "fantasy."
The purpose of a log is to critique progress and give tips, never to berate or cut some one down. If anybody is foolish, its you. I have approached this entire process with absurdly logical perspective and covered all thought process, as outlined in all my posts. I know what I want to achieve and I know the pros and cons of achieving it. All there is now is to bust ass and make it happen, stumble and learn upon the way.
