Kratom- Who Uses It For Pre-workout Or Just In General?

[Ozzy619]

But your def right about it being addictive. But i dont think it has anything to do with it being a drug or not. Its whether it has a value or benefit to it for weight lifting or whatever u want to use it for.
Kratom is not just used for recovering h addicts. Theyre are plenty of recreational users that never touched opiates. But like with any drugs, weed, beer or whatever, you have to use in moderation.

I know all about it being a recovering opiate addict. This just reminds me of a bluelight or erowid post. Im 100% positive kratom will never become popular in bodybuilding. I think its more popular with younger people looking to get high. I do see the benefit of using it to ease wd symptoms, but thats about it.

 

[Ozzy619]

Funny my boy used it to get off herion also, said I should try it as a pre workout.
When I did it was like I was on meth again, not good for an old meth head like myself.
It has different effects on different people, mellows him out like riddilan to ADHD and tweeked me out.
I have heard its dose dependant but never went back for seconds.

Be careful with this stuff. If you are in recovery like myself I would take a pass its not worth it.

Agreed

 

[Ozzy619]

Just respect the plant and all will be ok. I did not respect this plant and well it kinda sucks for me.

I imagine it will be illegal soon enough and then it will really suck for me.

Heres a non addictive trick to get yourself off this shit, no joke. A combo of imodium, zantec and grape fruit juice to cross the blood brain barrier. You wont get high, but will help with wd symptoms. Use clonodine in place of a benzo.

 

[Ripgut]

Hmm, I'm surprised I've never heard of this shit. But like the rest of ya, I to have my demons. Probably best if I stear clear.

 

[sable]

I know all about it being a recovering opiate addict. This just reminds me of a bluelight or erowid post. Im 100% positive kratom will never become popular in bodybuilding. I think its more popular with younger people looking to get high. I do see the benefit of using it to ease wd symptoms, but thats about it.

Hey good for you bro. I have respect for anyone that have fought off that shit. Im the same...
To make it clear im in no ways promoting kratom. Only reason i brought it up is cause ive seen alot of talks bout it over at a few bb forums and wanted to hear peoples opinion and insights. Good or bad.
Nobody should be ashamed of their past and habits. People that knows, if you can beat a opiate habit, you have the determination to be the best in life in all aspects...more power to you.

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Just came across this thread this morning , yea I wouldn't be messing around with any plant that binds to opiate receptors in the brain. Marcus and Ozzy I give you guys props for getting clean I'm a recovering heroin addict myself well cross addicted really coke and benzodiazepines too. Been clean 5+ years now I steer clear of any mind altering substances. keep away from them roxys sable and be careful with that coffee/opium whatever the fck plant!

 

[weezsti]

kratom is heaven sent.. seen alot of my friends recover from there opiate addiction using kratom .. i did some research my self on the plant and i can see why addicts use it to help with opiate withdrawals.. i tried it once and it gave me a vicodin kinda high which i dont really like..

 

[dnoyez]

It works for loads of things and like everything else is addictive,im not positive but think it uses the same receptors as hydrocodone,oxycodone,roxycodone etc etc.Now here in ashville it is sold at 25g for 25$.Dont be like me and pour the whole bag down your mouth to chug with water.I almost died from choking ..was like pouring an ounce of cinnamon down my throat..was intense,im in the bathroom choking trying not to be loud as my inlaws are in the nextroom over visiting and im in the bathroom on the floor rolling around tryingto work out not dying from choking on kratom man I spewed that shit everywhere.Had to clean up the mess and funny no one even knew the shit that was happening behind that closed door.

 

[sable]

Just came across this thread this morning , yea I wouldn't be messing around with any plant that binds to opiate receptors in the brain. Marcus and Ozzy I give you guys props for getting clean I'm a recovering heroin addict myself well cross addicted really coke and benzodiazepines too. Been clean 5+ years now I steer clear of any mind altering substances. keep away from them roxys sable and be careful with that coffee/opium whatever the fck plant!

Thanks for advice. Thank god ive been clean from pills and h for about a year now.

 

[doubleaa]

Im a recovered addict as well. 1 year saturday! I was an opiate addict and that shit did work for mefor some time untill i just needed it all the time or i didnt feel right. It can be found it lots of head shops. It fools the receptors in the brain like suboxin or methadone. It dosent take away the pain it just blocks it. Thats what all pain meds do. From personal experience its not really worth it

 

[sable]

Im a recovered addict as well. 1 year saturday! I was an opiate addict and that shit did work for mefor some time untill i just needed it all the time or i didnt feel right. It can be found it lots of head shops. It fools the receptors in the brain like suboxin or methadone. It dosent take away the pain it just blocks it. Thats what all pain meds do. From personal experience its not really worth it

How much kratom were u using? How did you stop...taper or straight up.

 

[54chev]

Did a little digging on this plant..it looks like a lot of people with depression/anxiety say its been helping them a lot. Also, some same it helps to kick nicotine withdrawels if you want to quit smoking. If its true, i dont know. If it wasnt for the addictive quality I might of tried it out. Between the hell I went through with valium..which was prescribed due to stress induced panic. It put a mask over the real issues and the first 3 months were the best ive been in awhile. However, downhill from there. And after a year I decided to get off after docs kept upping dosage. Decided between any antidepressant or benzo, youre better off dealing with yourself and mind differently. Worst 6 months of my life getting off all that bullshit.

 

[doubleaa]

I was

How much kratom were u using? How did you stop...taper or straight up.

taking around 4-5 every morning and night as well. I used the red vein because it had the pain relief (closet to opiate) i went to 3. The next day 2, next day 1, those are morning and night. Then stopped. Still had some wd symptoms though.

 

[dajr225]

I work at a treatment center and kids in halfway houses do this shit to beat drug test, and then they end up with a needle in there arm a week later. I'm a recovering heroine addict so I stay far away from it.

 

[MANWHORE]

Ya, I can't use that. I'm a recovering heroin addict and alcoholic (anddddd I pretty much just get addicted to everything) so that's something I should stay away from, but damn interesting to know about

That's why I was thinking of not trying it..

 

[sable]

I work at a treatment center and kids in halfway houses do this shit to beat drug test, and then they end up with a needle in there arm a week later. I'm a recovering heroine addict so I stay far away from it.

I'm pretty sure these places are catching on and sooner or later it'll be illegal. Indiana is already one of the states.
I had no choice, when I started kratom. I was in a nasty pill habit and had gotten in deep shit with the law (not related) at the time. Boom right away I was on probation with drug program every week. With immediate ceasing use of opiates was almost impossible. So instead of going to the doctor and asking for suboxone and being labelled a dope head for the rest of my life I was put on to kratom from a good friend that was dealing with own demons.
I'm not going to lie kratom is not something to tread lightly with, but at the same time I think it shouldn't be crucified as this next heroin substitute. It definitely has its medical value if
Used responsibly. It had saved a lot of people's life as it have saved mine.

 

[dajr225]

@sable. Believe me homie I understand. I used Kratom for the same reason about 3 years ago because I got in trouble in a half way house for doing oxys. I got sick so I used Kratom to deal with the withdrawal. My problem is I'm an addict and when that quit working I went back to what I knew would. I've been clean for 2 and a half years. No drugs or alcohol. That's just me though. I just finished my first cycle of test. I refuse to do anything like clen that that can alter the way I think just because I never want to go back to that life. I'm being very careful with aas also because I know how my shitty brain works. Lol

 

[GuyMichael]

this stuff has been around for awhile.. not a good idea to use for pre work out or general use. it does have an addictive catch to it. especially if you've used or had past issues with any opiates or euphoric substances.. it may give you a bit of "energy", but I can bet it's euphoric, or stimulated in some sort.
also if your looking to it for sleep help primaforce phinebut powder is much better.. also I must note..phenibut needs to be taken as labeled because it can become habit forming if abused.
however I believe there's a lot of things out there that can be habit forming when abused

 

[TheSpectre]

Stuff just gave me a stomach ache. Worthless for me.

 

[weezsti]

stop labeling this plant in the same category as oxys and shit.. first off all its a natural plant and not chemically made.. kratom is used as a tool

Im a recovered addict as well. 1 year saturday! I was an opiate addict and that shit did work for mefor some time untill i just needed it all the time or i didnt feel right. It can be found it lots of head shops. It fools the receptors in the brain like suboxin or methadone. It dosent take away the pain it just blocks it. Thats what all pain meds do. From personal experience its not really worth it

everything your saying about kratom is incorrect.. and you buying at head shops just tells me you did not do enough research on the plant.. kratom is supposed to be bought online by certified sellers.. head shops mix kratom with alot of bullshit and thats what has dea eye balling this lovely plant that has saved thousands of addicts lives..