Kratom- Who Uses It For Pre-workout Or Just In General?

[MANWHORE]

If you have issues before Kratom use and
Kratom takes them away, then YES you will get them back
but Kratom is not going to cause withdrawals.. No worse than low Test

M

 

[hammerfist2]

No offense taken and Yeah I know its all in my head. Actually I got my strength to do it for reading heroin and oxy threads... I kept saying this shit is nothing compared to what these other cats are facing and pulling through so I knew it was just up to me to do it.
Fuckkkk the stories I read.

Thanks for comment and congrats on your accomplishment and driving on.

 

[MANWHORE]

You will be OK Brother..

M

 

[hotdog23]

No offense taken and Yeah I know its all in my head. Actually I got my strength to do it for reading heroin and oxy threads... I kept saying this shit is nothing compared to what these other cats are facing and pulling through so I knew it was just up to me to do it.
Fuckkkk the stories I read.

Thanks for comment and congrats on your accomplishment and driving on.

Hardest part is over

 

[hammerfist2]

I was on too much big pharma from VA and was going crazy waiting every month for my late orders. Over and over this happened. Kratom answered all of my problems. So yeah I see that the beast is back but I hope to stay off meds...well except ambien. I still love ambien.

 

[hotdog23]

I was on too much big pharma from VA and was going crazy waiting every month for my late orders. Over and over this happened. Kratom answered all of my problems. So yeah I see that the beast is back but I hope to stay off meds...well except ambien. I still love ambien.

Fuck. I want some ambien. Gonna try delta sleep inducing peptide soon (dsip)

 

[hammerfist2]

Ambien is the shit and becoming a bitch to get. My doc is always trying to steer me another direction. I would be interested to hear how dsip works for you.
Funny story... The first time I banged my ex Brazilian gfriend in the Ass was on ambien. Ummmm I dont remember a thing about it. Just her being pissed the next day that I didnt remember. Haha

 

[viking23]

I feel you manwhore . Blues might be as bad as dope . Shit will make you a fiend for sure! Be safe fellas and watch out for kratom. Don't go back to old habits . Past got nothing new to say and it will only repeat if you let it

 

[belphegor123]

I always read these withdrawal stories and it puzzles me, the only thing that was hard for me to quit was weed when I was like 17 and needed to pass a drug test. I've taken Xanax in a reckless doses for months on end and quit cold turkey without a problem, same with phenibut and kratom. Maybe some people just don't get problems coming off stuff?

 

[MANWHORE]

Maybe some people just don't get problems coming off stuff?

It's because some people have so many problems
when going on stuff, that the problems come back
when they come off..

AND they blame the drug when it's
really their fucked up life..

BECAUSE of their girlfriends or wives..

Yea Boys, It's the women..
Drop the women, Fix the problem..

$200 please.. you can pay my secretary at the front desk

M

 

[viking23]

You might be right! I do believe significant others play a huge role on the matter.

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

If you have issues before Kratom use and
Kratom takes them away, then YES you will get them back
but Kratom is not going to cause withdrawals.. No worse than low Test

M

Kratom definitely causes withdrawals, I know people who used it to kick heroin, and now when they stop kratom they get dope sick. It's not as bad as heroin, but it is not fun

 

[MANWHORE]

Everyone handles things differently ..
Some people can work hard manual labor jobs all day,
and some people can't handle a postal job..

Weed, Caffeine, Sweets all cause withdrawals,
but I am not talking about a small energy loss withdrawal..

AND if someone stops dope for 4 days staying on Kratom
for those days, then comes off the Kratom, it's the Dope
withdrawal not the Kratom..

withdrawal degree depends on how much of any drug is used before stopping..

Anyone who wants to stop Dope, should stop cold turkey..
That's the fastest way to sobriety ..

M

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

It's also the fastest way to relapse. You obviously have no clue about opiate dependence. I do. I struggled with opiates for 10 years. Stopping cold turkey rarely works unless you have been addicted for a short time. The person I know was off dope and on kratom for a few months and then tried to quit kratom cold turkey. Guess what, she got extremely dope sick and ended up on suboxone. She then slowly tapered that till she was clean. Google kratom withdrawals and see all the testomonials yourself. Long term Kratom can be stopped with minimum withdrawals if you have the discipline to slowly taper off it.

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

Here's a link of people addicted to kratom trying to quit it avoiding withdrawals.
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/435879-Kratom-Withdrawal

 

[ThE SiCkNeSs]

Take notice of their desperation

 

[PRODIGALAMB]

I went down a very dark road with Xanax, Adderall, Klonopin, and whiskey addiction for 10 years..went to a 3 month treatment facility and relapsed the first day out. 2 more years of 20 mg Xanax and 150 mg Adderrall every day and a bottle of crown a day and my wife left with the kids..She had enough. .I sat in my empty house for days and decided I had nothing left to live for. .due to the drugs... Grabbed my shotgun loaded a shell into the chamber put the barrel to my chin..and right before pulling the trigger a roladex of the future flashed through my mind. .my kids mourning me at the funeral..then a vision of burning in a fierry hell. .I called my mom told her and she called the police. .they showed up in full riot gear and took me to the state hospital. .after being there a week. .I had enough...never touched any of that shit again..sober 4 years and life is amazing now. .reading your stories of addiction and recovery of truly inspiring. .Thanks brothers.

 

[PRODIGALAMB]

As for Kratum.... Fuck that bullshit. .

 

[UG Supps]

I agree....I have personally had no issues quitting. That said, I'm sure that some do....from what I have seen, its those that use mostly extract that have problems with withdrawals.

 

[nophat]

Dam just ordered.
Maeng DA
And some resin
This addiction shit will controll you life for ever. Had the big silver back for years.
Mh is close to rite. But for some kicking old habit is next to impossible
I quit cold turkey looked at my kids and wife and said that's enough. I did it for myself and the game changed. The devil will sapport you any way he can.
Good luck to all.