Labmax superior sustanon

[Chips]

Hey guys just did this I meant to put in a couple drops only I fuked it up and about 4 to 5 drops from a 20 gauge went in. Thoughts?

 

[Benny]

I've never used labmax, but reading the chart I'm hoping that it's showing the sust to be legit. I bought several vials of his sust, so am particularly concerned with this one

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Says not to put that much in there, like 2 drops from 20ga. I'd have to say there is def test in there, others will have to weigh in on whether looks to be underdosed or not. If have to say EVERY ugl will underdosed their shit.. Just my .02

 

[MANWHORE]

How do you know it's underdosed from a Labmax?
Doesn't a Labmax just show if there is even a TRACE of the AAS you're testing for?
OR is it darker or different colors from different doses?

 

[Beast11]

^^^ curious about that too.

 

[MANWHORE]

From what I have read and told,
Labmax is used to DETECT a specific AAS.. That's it

If that's the case, it's useless to me

 

[jymis]

Well its real world application is rule out, not detect. Dr. Jim was explaining it the other in day in his MS thread. We use it to detect cause thats the best we normal joes go going on.

 

[jymis]

I've had a few requests recently for Mass Specs and perhaps I've created some confusion about what I'm doing why and when. I suspect the best way to explain this is to use contemporary athletic PED testing)

Mass Spec abbreviated MS and Liquid Chromatography or Gas Chromatography, abbreviated LC and GC respectively are different forms of tests that provide different information.

Alow me to digress to emphasize a few points; first understand any analytical test mandates the researcher be informed about "what am I looking for". So you just can't expect me or anyone else to evaluate a sample for: TELL ME WHAT'S IN THAT GH or AAS VIAL.

The same is true for any athletic PED analysis. Folks do you have any idea the initial cost of a WADA Tour De-France PED URINE screening assay costs about $2300.00!!!
Now granted this form of testing is no doubt the MOST EXTENSIVE of any sport related event.

Last time I checked they were searching for as many as 113 chemical compounds their substrates or metabolites. Add to that serum analyses or confirmatory assays and the amount may easily breach FIVE GRAND!

So to that end DEPENDING UPON WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR and THE MEDIUM it's contained in (urine, saliva, blood, vial etc) the first test of choice is REAGENT TESTING such as Lab Max! The primary reason RT is used, is they are inexpensive and rarely have "false positives". So they are used to determine the ABSENCE of a particular substance OR one of it's metabolites.

That is, assume your an athlete being "tested for AAS or Tren in particular". They will collect a urine sample and if a colormetric change does not occur, the test is considered "a confirmed negative" for Tren. GOT IT!

Now because the reliability of Reagent Testing approximates 100% this result means you were NOT using Tren during an particular athletic event! (You may have used Tren BUT you waited long enough such that the amount was BELOW the preset RT threshold or perhaps you used an adulterant to dilute the urine or "trick the test", but that's an entirely different thread)

However suppose your RT turned up POSITIVE! What does this mean? It means you MAY HAVE USED Tren during a sporting event and that CONFIRMATORY TESTING is required!

So now the focus of the testing has now CHANGED from confirming the ABSENCE of a particular substance to confirming it's PRESENCE, and the differences are absolutely HUGE from an analytical perspective.

Now we must use one of several techniques used to confirm the presence of this forbidden substance and eliminate ANY chance of a FALSE POSITIVE RESULT. (The latter is obviously very important from a legal persecutive bc the incriminated athlete may claim slander, libel defamation of character, loss of consortium etc it they are falsely accused. Of course we don't hear about that much anymore bc the tests used and those conducting them are literally above reproach in this field. Those athletes whom have tried invariably acquiesced and accepted their "punishment")

To be concluded ....... as LC/MS

Here is it.

 

[ebola]

How do you know it's underdosed from a Labmax?
Doesn't a Labmax just show if there is even a TRACE of the AAS you're testing for?
OR is it darker or different colors from different doses?

I have just been reading a little and there is a lot of info.

For example underdosed test enan is changing from yellow to a little blue to nice blue - greenish glow if the concentration is high.

I am not sure about the rest. I guess there are members who can explain more.

 

[flenser]

From what I have read and told,
Labmax is used to DETECT a specific AAS.. That's it

If that's the case, it's useless to me

There is a lot of speculation that a dim UV response indicates under dosed gear, and a bright UV response (like those in the videos on the labmax site) indicate properly dosed gear.

This is partly true, but a dim UV response could also mean a completely different compound. The labmax test minimizes this by also having two results, a and b, under normal light that MUST match for the dim = under dosed idea to be considered. Even then it's not a sure bet you have an under dosed version of the expected hormone.

Anyway, if labmax shows it's under dosed, I would ask for replacements or a refund rather than pin in. Failing that, I would probably toss it and buy something else : )

 

[Chips]

Found these pics seems close to me in normal light not to sure about the uv one.

 

[Benny]

@Chips Looks like your test to me. How long ago did you get your sust? I got mine about a month ago, and feel much better about it having seen your test.

 

[Chips]

I got it a few weeks ago. Just not to sure about the uv pic. The normal one looks good to me as well. The pics on labmax don't seem the same to me, I just saw these pics on the web. They do look like similar amounts of volume vs the lab max pics. Hence the darker color.

 

[dmt31]

the amount of time it takes to change color also can help figure out the dosing of it, if i'm remember that correctly, i definitely could be wrong though

 

[mercury]

you have something there but it is hard to see the picture under UV

definitely there is fluorescence and you have some test there.

looks more like blue - greenish which would indicate test enan but I can be mistaken because of the quality of the picture.