My next cycle #3

[Spaceman Spiff]

Goddamn.

That's what you are suggesting,

Somehow going from 500mg of test a week to 200 is stopping cold turkey.

 

[strangegenericguy]

Feel free to disagree, but let’s be clear, when it comes to maximizing muscle gains in a shorter timeframe, testosterone is not the ultimate choice imo. Tren and Dbol clearly outperform it in terms of both androgenic and anabolic properties, as well as nutrient partitioning capabilities.

In fact, for a blast focused purely on muscle growth, I wouldn’t even prioritize testosterone; a minimal dose of 5-10mg per week might suffice just to maintain a baseline if I'm on TRT. This approach allows for a smooth transition back to TRT levels post cycle without the dreaded crash or wait time associated with testosterone cyp.

The typical aas user on a trt of 500/1000 has dead after this post

 

[bolognasty]

That's what you are suggesting,

Somehow going from 500mg of test a week to 200 is stopping cold turkey.

I never suggested taking 500mg of test. I mentioned that a tren and dbol cycle is more anabolic than test, but it’s smart to keep a small amount of test in there to transition back to TRT right away. If you don’t, after the tren and dbol clear out, you’ll be off cold turkey *no drugs in your system* until the cyp kicks in.

You're just nitpicking at anything at this point. I get it, you believe test, npp, primo is superior to tren and you like to meat ride the other dude who competes. I'll just leave it here.

 

[Liter O' Test]

I never suggested taking 500mg of test. I mentioned that a tren and dbol cycle is more anabolic than test, but it’s smart to keep a small amount of test in there to transition back to TRT right away. If you don’t, after the tren and dbol clear out, you’ll be off cold turkey *no drugs in your system* until the cyp kicks in.

You're just nitpicking at anything at this point. I get it, you believe test, npp, primo is superior to tren and you like to meat ride the other dude who competes. I'll just leave it here.

why would one take less than TRT?
why do you say 5-10mg?

 

[bolognasty]

why would one take less than TRT?
why do you say 5-10mg?

Why would I suggest a small amount of test during a tren and dbol blast? I answered above

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

why would one take less than TRT?
why do you say 5-10mg?

I just caught that

Wtf?

That guy is a clown.



His cycle
5-10mg of test c a week
250 tren ace a week
30mg of dbol ED

 

[Bigbicep]

bro I'd rather throw the $200 in gear out than spend a week depressed.
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even if you don't notice it, it could be even worse, because you could just have a -20% mood modifier on and not realize it. if it does it at high doses, then it'll do it at low doses. You wanna be less happy for a few months so you don't feel like you wasted $200, but in reality that $200 is already gone and you're just pinning to make your mood worse

There isn't a Xmg that doesnt effect your mood and X+1mg that it suddenly does.

If it comes to that I will have to end up throwing it away.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Why would I suggest a small amount of test during a tren and dbol blast? I answered above

why would you take less than TRT?
what is wrong with TRT?

 

[rexy]

Holy shit, this thread

 

[DugPrime]

why would you take less than TRT?
what is wrong with TRT?

testosterone is for men

 

[rexy]

I've got a better strategy. Guaranteed to be more effective than bolognasty's approach.

It's called Testosterone Displacement Therapy.

You come off everything and wait until you regain natural testosterone levels. Then, wake up early when it peaks, inject into your balls and drain the testosterone out. Then empty it into the toilet.

 

[bolognasty]

I never once said I was against using testosterone or TRT. My point was simply that trenbolone and Dianabol are more potent and anabolic than testosterone, which is why high level competitors choose them and dont run test only cycles. It’s surprising how many missed or misunderstood this point. One member who competes disagreed, and suddenly a bunch of others jumped on board, parroting his view.

 

[bolognasty]

I've got a better strategy. Guaranteed to be more effective than bolognasty's approach.

It's called Testosterone Displacement Therapy.

You come off everything and wait until you regain natural testosterone levels. Then, wake up early when it peaks, inject into your balls and drain the testosterone out. Then empty it into the toilet.

The mentality here just highlights how much this forum has lost its focus on informed discussions.

 

[Liter O' Test]

The mentality here just highlights how much this forum has lost its focus on informed discussions.

how do you know?
how many accounts have you had?

 

[rexy]

The mentality here just highlights how much this forum has lost its focus on informed discussions.

No, it just shows how it responds to people who act as if they have authoritative knowledge when they are infact giving out poor advice.

In fact, for a blast focused purely on muscle growth, I wouldn’t even prioritize testosterone; a minimal dose of 5-10mg per week might suffice just to maintain a baseline if I'm on TRT.

You've pulled a strawman by saying "I never once said I was against using testosterone or TRT." because nobody said you was. They were asking why you were suggesting such stupid doses of it and why you wouldn't just match TRT instead of go below it.

 

[bolognasty]

how do you know?
how many accounts have you had?

I was an active member here a few years ago but lost access to my old account. Trying to change the subject, are we?

 

[Liter O' Test]

I was an active member here a few years ago but lost access to my old account. Trying to change the subject, are we?

ok, back on subject,
what effect does 10mg of testosterone per week have on a man?
please provide a specific answer

 

[BigTomJ]

I never once said I was against using testosterone or TRT. My point was simply that trenbolone and Dianabol are more potent and anabolic than testosterone, which is why high level competitors choose them and dont run test only cycles. It’s surprising how many missed or misunderstood this point. One member who competes disagreed, and suddenly a bunch of others jumped on board, parroting his view.

Not only are you entirely and completely wrong, your confidently wrong.

And that's just frustrating. Convinced this is a troll

 

[bolognasty]

No, it just shows how it responds to people who act as if they have authoritative knowledge when they are infact giving out poor advice.



You've pulled a strawman by saying "I never once said I was against using testosterone or TRT." because nobody said you was. They were asking why you were suggesting such stupid doses of it and why you wouldn't just match TRT instead of go below it.

The cycle I recommended was predominantly tren and dbol because it’s potent and effective. I’ve already explained why keeping a small amount of testosterone in the mix is important, many times, so read the thread. I’ve noted your input, and I’ve heard it before. If you disagree, provide a detailed explanation of why it’s a bad approach. Right now, you’re just jumping in, like someone throwing a cheap shot after everyone else has already piled on.

 

[bolognasty]

ok, back on subject,
what effect does 10mg of testosterone per week have on a man?
please provide a specific answer

A cycle of 250mg of tren per week and 30mg of dbol daily would yield more gains than a 500mg test only cycle. Yes, that's tren and dbol alone.

The low dose of testosterone would be included in the cycle to help you transition straight back to your TRT dose post cycle without any wait time for your test to kick back in. Got it now?