My next cycle #3

[Liter O' Test]

I get what you’re saying and I appreciate it. Iv only ever had 1 bad side and that was from my first run with npp. I have progressed abit since those last photos I uploaded. Tbh I wanted to try something new. I wanted to try primo but I still have these 9 vials of Npp I don’t wanna waste. Mabey i could stick with just primo and test this round but sooner or later I wanna try and get rid of this npp.

bro I'd rather throw the $200 in gear out than spend a week depressed.


even if you don't notice it, it could be even worse, because you could just have a -20% mood modifier on and not realize it. if it does it at high doses, then it'll do it at low doses. You wanna be less happy for a few months so you don't feel like you wasted $200, but in reality that $200 is already gone and you're just pinning to make your mood worse

There isn't a Xmg that doesnt effect your mood and X+1mg that it suddenly does.

 

[bolognasty]

forget the npp, it will never be what you think it is based on forum anecdotes made by anonymous dyels

You can't argue with the fact that even 250mg tren a week with 30mg dbol a day will result in more gains than npp or even 800mg test. I can understand people like op not wanting to run it cause of potential sides but the anabolic properties of that stack is king for building lean mass in a short period.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I get what you’re saying and I appreciate it. Iv only ever had 1 bad side and that was from my first run with npp. I have progressed abit since those last photos I uploaded. Tbh I wanted to try something new. I wanted to try primo but I still have these 9 vials of Npp I don’t wanna waste. Mabey i could stick with just primo and test this round but sooner or later I wanna try and get rid of this npp.

This response clearly reflects on using drugs just "cause you have it in front of you" or wanting to try new stuff.

Keep focusing on gear instead of mental health and gym performance.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

bro I'd rather throw the $200 in gear out than spend a week depressed.

For sure drugs are cheap as hell. Who gives a shit about it if you feel like shit.

 

[BigTomJ]

What about 50mg tren ace and 30mg dbol everyday instead? Highly anabolic. You could take that for 4-6 weeks and still get a better bang for your buck than primo and npp.

worst advice ive seen all year.

well done

You can't argue with the fact that even 250mg tren a week with 30mg dbol a day will result in more gains than npp or even 800mg test. I can understand people like op not wanting to run it cause of potential sides but the anabolic properties of that stack is king for building lean mass in a short period.

You should seriously consider never giving advice or recommendations anymore

 

[bolognasty]

worst advice ive seen all year.

well done



You should seriously consider never giving advice or recommendations anymore

Feel free to disagree, but let’s be clear, when it comes to maximizing muscle gains in a shorter timeframe, testosterone is not the ultimate choice imo. Tren and Dbol clearly outperform it in terms of both androgenic and anabolic properties, as well as nutrient partitioning capabilities.

In fact, for a blast focused purely on muscle growth, I wouldn’t even prioritize testosterone; a minimal dose of 5-10mg per week might suffice just to maintain a baseline if I'm on TRT. This approach allows for a smooth transition back to TRT levels post cycle without the dreaded crash or wait time associated with testosterone cyp.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Feel free to disagree, but let’s be clear, when it comes to maximizing muscle gains in a shorter timeframe, testosterone is not the ultimate choice imo. Tren and Dbol clearly outperform it in terms of both androgenic and anabolic properties, as well as nutrient partitioning capabilities.

In fact, for a blast focused purely on muscle growth, I wouldn’t even prioritize testosterone; a minimal dose of 5-10mg per week might suffice just to maintain a baseline if I'm on TRT. This approach allows for a smooth transition back to TRT levels post cycle without the dreaded crash or wait time associated with testosterone cyp.

Uhh

Post to experience checks out

Thread 'Bloods after 5 years off. TRT?' Bloods after 5 years off. TRT?

 

[bolognasty]

Uhh

Think about it. Rather than running test/npp/primo for 10/12/20 or so weeks, maximise your results and achieve significant gains in a shorter timeframe with my approach for just 5 weeks, then transition back to trt and maintain. Life's good, and you didn't need to blast for months.

What's that post got to do with anything either? I hadent taken anything for 5 years lol. I'm still experienced when it comes to taking AAS.

Anyhow, are you disagreeing that tren and dbol are less androgenic than all the compounds op is considering? Uhh..?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Think about it. Rather than running test/npp/primo for 10/12/20 or so weeks, maximise your results and achieve significant gains in a shorter timeframe with my approach for just 5 weeks, then transition back to trt and maintain. Life's good, and you didn't need to blast for months.

What's that post got to do with anything either, I hadent taken anything for 5 years lol. I'm still experienced when it comes to taking AAS.

Anyhow, are you disagreeing that tren and dbol are less androgenic than all the compounds op is considering? Uhh..?

Androgenic doesn't mean anabolic.

With that thought process let's all blast 5 grams of gear a week to maximize efficacy


You mention dreaded crash from test c? What the hell are you talking about.

 

[bolognasty]

Androgenic doesn't mean anabolic.

With that thought process let's all blast 5 grams of gear a week to maximize efficacy


You mention dreaded crash from test c? What the hell are you talking about.

Tren and dbol are more anabolic.

You'd take a small dose of test throughout the cycle so you can simply transition to your trt dose afterwards, without coming off cold turkey and having to wait weeks for the trt to kick back in. What do you think I meant?

 

[Liter O' Test]

OP i think you should do 1g of test and use arimidex and do a log/bloodwork and surprise some people

 

[strangegenericguy]

the thing that everyone there says bro the amount of gear you run is too high.......guys jay cutler at 500mg with super gains maybe fucked your mind...stop believing that the donkey flies...

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Tren and dbol are more anabolic.

You'd take a small dose of test throughout the cycle so you can simply transition to your trt dose afterwards, without coming off cold turkey and having to wait weeks for the trt to kick back in. What do you think I meant?

More anabolic according what?

Nobody says you need to stop Cold Turkey

Do you understand what stopping off cold turkey means?

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[BigTomJ]

Feel free to disagree, but let’s be clear, when it comes to maximizing muscle gains in a shorter timeframe, testosterone is not the ultimate choice imo. Tren and Dbol clearly outperform it in terms of both androgenic and anabolic properties, as well as nutrient partitioning capabilities.

lets be clear, when it comes to mazimizing muscle gains, you should not be speaking on the subject with this level of knowledge.
Sit back and learn for a bit.

In fact, for a blast focused purely on muscle growth, I wouldn’t even prioritize testosterone; a minimal dose of 5-10mg per week might suffice just to maintain a baseline if I'm on TRT. This approach allows for a smooth transition back to TRT levels post cycle without the dreaded crash or wait time associated with testosterone cyp.

more uninformed nonsense.

Think about it. Rather than running test/npp/primo for 10/12/20 or so weeks, maximise your results and achieve significant gains in a shorter timeframe with my approach for just 5 weeks, then transition back to trt and maintain. Life's good, and you didn't need to blast for months.

except it doesnt work like that and you wont get anywhere near the same results.

What's that post got to do with anything either? I hadent taken anything for 5 years lol. I'm still experienced when it comes to taking AAS.

experienced? maybe.
Educated? no

Anyhow, are you disagreeing that tren and dbol are less androgenic than all the compounds op is considering? Uhh.

Hershberger assays on AAS are not any indication of potency or muscle building capacity.
Dbol is, objectively speaking, one of the worst compounds you can run for muscle growth.
You are misconstruing smooth brain bro lore with actual results.

 

[BigTomJ]

Tren and dbol are more anabolic.

You'd take a small dose of test throughout the cycle so you can simply transition to your trt dose afterwards, without coming off cold turkey and having to wait weeks for the trt to kick back in. What do you think I meant?

This post proved you not only dont know what youre talking about, but also dont even know/understand the most basic principles of cycle design or how these drugs work.

Id put down the shovel, youve dug deep enough my guy.

 

[bolognasty]

More anabolic according what?

Nobody says you need to stop Cold Turkey

Do you understand what stopping off cold turkey means?

Thanks for proving my point.

More anabolic according to scientific research and numerous user experiences including my own.

The idea is to keep some test in the cycle so you can smoothly transition back to TRT right after the cycle ends. This way, you avoid any unnecessary hormonal dips or wait times. Let me know if you want me to break it down further for you.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

More anabolic according to scientific research and numerous user experiences including my own.

The idea is to keep some test in the cycle so you can smoothly transition back to TRT right after the cycle ends. This way, you avoid any unnecessary hormonal dips or wait times. Let me know if you want me to break it down further for you.

Stopping Cold Turkey = reducing the dose, but continuing the drug.
Scientific Research of what? The fucking rat model?

ok bro lol.

Hershberger assays on AAS are not any indication of potency or muscle building capacity.

yep. seems like thats what he is basing it off of.

 

[BigTomJ]

Stopping Cold Turkey = reducing the dose, but continuing the drug.
Scientific Research of what? The fucking rat model?

ok bro lol.



yep. seems like thats what he is basing it off of.

dunning kruger in full effect

 

[bolognasty]

Stopping Cold Turkey = reducing the dose, but continuing the drug.

Goddamn.

 

[Grey Spartan]

a minimal dose of 5-10mg per week might suffice just to maintain a baseline

Are you really suggesting 5-10mg of Test a week will maintain an adult male baseline Test? Especially someone who is on TRT or uses AAS? What "baseline"?