Laboratory testing of AASs, GH, peptides...

This is a pretty significant accusation that I hope to see get addressed!

One question I have for you though, @master.on , and maybe I just missed it, but I thought the samples sent to @Analyzer are sent blindly, so he must be able to identify the steroid individually, because he is not told what is in the sample ahead of time, unless I am not understanding what you are saying above?
Did YOU send him gear yourself?
i.e. bought big-pharma gear in Mexico, broke the amps, poured them in an unlabeled vial, to see if he can identify it?
Trust NO ONE
"satisfied customers "can well be all shills.


If I'm understanding the complaint properly... it's basically that he's using a process that can ID a substance, but it can't provide purity. So say you send him unmarked anadrol. He'll be able to ID it as anadrol, but he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 60% anadrol and 99.99% anadrol.

I don't know if this is true or not, since I have no background in chemistry, but I believe this is their concern.
Nope
He claims to use a machine (GC-FID) that doesn't really identify substances = left foot start.

And I haven't scrutinized the quantification (purity) part yet. In fact I haven't even taken a quick look at it.


Rp Hpcl is included in most full reports—

As most information is above my pay grade I tend to only post first page a lot of times...

@master.on if u need a full report of any particular one Pm me and I’ll send it over so u can put it in a spread sheet
Sure, please post any test you like
as long as it has complete charts and tables.
 
Nope
He claims to use a machine (GC-FID) that doesn't really identify substances = left foot start.
I don't understand your complaint with the context of so many user reports. Almost every person who sends him an unmarked bag/vial of random crap get a report back telling them the compound they sent in is exactly what they were expecting. There are easily two dozen commonly tested substances(including ancillaries) so it's impossible to just guess correctly over and over again.

So he's either correctly IDing it through a chemical process, or he's a fucking wizard.
 
I don't understand your complaint with the context of so many user reports. Almost every person who sends him an unmarked bag/vial of random crap get a report back telling them the compound they sent in is exactly what they were expecting. There are easily two dozen commonly tested substances(including ancillaries) so it's impossible to just guess correctly over and over again.

So he's either correctly IDing it through a chemical process, or he's a fucking wizard.
How can you (or others) know they ain't multi-handle shills posing as "satisfied customers"?
Simple answer: you can't. That's how the Internet works.
That's why I'm here to clear this up in a scientific and unbiased way.
 
All mine have been blind samples — all he sees is my different color tops:)

Wish I had a mass spec machine... seen a used one for 1.5 mil
1.5 Mil?
They ain't that expensive
you can get a perfectly working one for under $100k
https://www.labx.com/v2/adsearch/search.cfm?sw=gc-ms&sort=p&sortDir=d

Some big pharma and food companies who do in-house quality control, do renew their machines every 4 years or less, even if working perfectly.
Some sell for under $50k in pristine condition, with manufacturer service records and everything.

I know that for a fact.
 
Did YOU send him gear yourself?
i.e. bought big-pharma gear in Mexico, broke the amps, poured them in an unlabeled vial, to see if he can identify it?
Trust NO ONE
"satisfied customers "can well be all shills.



Nope
He claims to use a machine (GC-FID) that doesn't really identify substances = left foot start.

And I haven't scrutinized the quantification (purity) part yet. In fact I haven't even taken a quick look at it.



Sure, please post any test you like
as long as it has complete charts and tables.

How can you (or others) know they ain't multi-handle shills posing as "satisfied customers"?
Simple answer: you can't. That's how the Internet works.
That's why I'm here to clear this up in a scientific and unbiased way.

I can tell you...I did put the samples unlabeled all myself.
He identified all 3. 1 was a 4 blend test, 1 was a 2 blend Mast and the other straight test.
2 from PCOM were almost spot on. The blend test, he hit all the esters, but the source might've messed up the recipe.
Analyzer knew nothing, except sample 1, 2, 3 on unlabeled sterile vials.

See a 2 of my reports...
 

Attachments

How can you (or others) know they ain't multi-handle shills posing as "satisfied customers"?
Simple answer: you can't. That's how the Internet works.
That's why I'm here to clear this up in a scientific and unbiased way.

How bout instead of handling “shills” in a scientific and unbiased way LOL

Have some testing done yourself and put some action with your words—

Smh with dudes that Throw salt, but don’t contribute anything else but conspiracy theories.....
 
How bout instead of handling “shills” in a scientific and unbiased way LOL

Have some testing done yourself and put some action with your words—

Smh with dudes that Throw salt, but don’t contribute anything else but conspiracy theories.....
I couldn't agree with you more. Im one of those "shills" too.
@master.on if you just want to review his methods and procedures so be it. But don't accuse people of shilling or malpractice on analyzers part.
 
He always does this, guy is a weirdo and contributes nothing to the board.

@master.on why don't you out your own money up and check it out yourself?
 
Ya and I fell for it for a moment till I remembered I had a buddy send analyzer a vial that wasn't labeled and a vial that was labeled Melanotan 2. The vial had Primobolan in it 155mg/ml and the Melanotan actually had GH in it which we already knew.
Fucking stupid accusation if you ask me.
 
Wow, this got stupid, quickly.

I asked for clarification because I assumed SURELY that I must have misunderstood what you were getting at, @master.on

"Trust no one" is a stupid fucking way of life. I say stupid, because almost everyone I know that goes around 'living by this creed' is also usually a miserable person. I do trust @Analyzer because I have had many friends here at Meso utilize his services (blindly) and have gotten satisfactory results.

It's okay to trust people, even if you get burned sometimes. ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT PERSON HAS GIVEN YOU PLENTY OF REASONS TO TRUST THEM!

Or you can go through life emotionally scarred and wounded with your fucking tin foil hat on, scared that someone might fool you. Maybe daddy left home when you were 16 years old, or maybe your girlfriend left you for a dude with confidence who wasn't busy "not trusting anyone", but you don't have to consume yourself with looking for opportunities to accuse folks who have established themselves as trustworthy.

It's one thing to ask questions of Analyzer's (or anyone else's) processes, that's cool. But to straight out accuse and soil their reputation as part of your questioning is weak on your part.
 
Did YOU send him gear yourself?
i.e. bought big-pharma gear in Mexico, broke the amps, poured them in an unlabeled vial, to see if he can identify it?
Trust NO ONE
"satisfied customers "can well be all shills.



Nope
He claims to use a machine (GC-FID) that doesn't really identify substances = left foot start.

And I haven't scrutinized the quantification (purity) part yet. In fact I haven't even taken a quick look at it.



Sure, please post any test you like
as long as it has complete charts and tables.
I think the important question here should be, have YOU sent him any samples to test to make such accusations?

Are you just basically talking out of your ass?

If you have no real first hand experience of his testing than your accusations are pretty baseless. If everyone else is a shill and you’re not maybe try and prove it? Send some samples in and prove his methods are full of shit. Talk is cheap
 
@master.on are you shilling for @mercury and labmax these days...

Why the paranoia?

mands

He has been spending a lot of time lately deconstructing Labmax tests. More likely looking to develop his own colormetric test. He has shown that you can get Labmax like results by simply using sulfuric acid that can pretty easily be purchased online.
 
I can tell you...I did put the samples unlabeled all myself.
He identified all 3. 1 was a 4 blend test, 1 was a 2 blend Mast and the other straight test.
2 from PCOM were almost spot on. The blend test, he hit all the esters, but the source might've messed up the recipe.
Analyzer knew nothing, except sample 1, 2, 3 on unlabeled sterile vials.

See a 2 of my reports...
Nice, I will take a detailed look at them during the weekend.

@Analyzer can you please clear up:
1 What column type and manufacturer did you use for GC?
2 What column type and manufacturer did you use for HPLC?
3 What mobile-phase did you use for HPLC?
Thanks in advance


@master.on are you shilling for @mercury and labmax these days...

Why the paranoia?

mands
 
I will post here as well as in the main testing forum.

I just recently sent to @Analyzer the following to be tested. Two unlabeled vials with tops removed...

Sample 1 - Blue top Kefei
Sample 2 - Black top generic(not meditropes)

Please see attached for analysis.

mands
 

Attachments

I can tell you...I did put the samples unlabeled all myself.
He identified all 3. 1 was a 4 blend test, 1 was a 2 blend Mast and the other straight test.
2 from PCOM were almost spot on. The blend test, he hit all the esters, but the source might've messed up the recipe.
Analyzer knew nothing, except sample 1, 2, 3 on unlabeled sterile vials.

See a 2 of my reports...

I will post here as well as in the main testing forum.

I just recently sent to @Analyzer the following to be tested. Two unlabeled vials with tops removed...

Sample 1 - Blue top Kefei
Sample 2 - Black top generic(not meditropes)

Please see attached for analysis.

mands
While I haven't had time to look at the report in detail,

@Analyzer printed reports claim he uses Agilent 1260 LC machine
no shit, that's $50k+ if bought USED

He uses the same testing method for everything, even GH I believe
the same method found at
C:\CHEM32\1\METHODS\TEST.M
Don't different steroids require different testing methods?

Either that's a really big lab with dozens of users, or he creates a new (coded) username every time wtf?
21-32-04.D
00-29-12.D
18-51-15.D
18-11-07.D


I hope he replies with the info requested above:
@Analyzer can you please clear up:
1 What column type and manufacturer did you use for GC?
2 What column type and manufacturer did you use for HPLC?
3 What mobile-phase did you use for HPLC?
Thanks in advance
https://thinksteroids.com/community...ss-gh-peptides.134384752/page-25#post-2165772
 
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