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Laboratory testing of AASs, GH, peptides...
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You do realize it doesn’t help anyone, including yourself, if you’re announcing what he products are supposed to be ahead of time?
Johnny442
New Member
I just don’t get it doc. Hell, they probably even tell him what the concentration supposedly in the product as well. SMH
Johnny442
New Member
I’m not accusing anyone of anything but if I’ve learned one thing on this board is you can’t trust anyone. I respect everyone sending samples for testing I just think it should be completely anonymous. Then there can be no claims of underhanded shit going on. Again, I’m not saying there is, just remove all doubt!
Spooby
Member
This was interesting as fuck! Thanks for all the information guys
No, I’m no accusing anyone of anything but it’s always best to have everyone blinded when it comes to testing.
Ok it just sounded that way for a second. I totally agree it makes things more credible. But there is a level of trust with how I did it.
BuryMeBig
New Member
Thanks again Analyzer. Sent him some GH to get tested. Guys def. Legit. Quick turn around too. Ill post the results.
Did you post the results?
master.on
New Member
@Analyzer
You seem to use GC-FID which doesn't identify steroids (or any substance) by itself.
It only tells you that something triggered a peak at X time.
Please enlighten us
on what retention times do different steroids give peaks at?
What column/parameters do you use for that?
TRT
New Member
Ya I'm kinda interested in hear what's used and how.
master.on
New Member
@Analyzer urgently needs to urgently address his testing methods to get any further credibility.
We all know how @jano ended up = dice tosser
I'm not accusing @Analyzer of being an impostor YET, so I hope he provides in-depth info on his testing methods.
He claims using GC-FID which doesn't identify steroids (or any other substance) by itself.
As an attached file you can see a (professionally made) GC-FID chart
this only tells you that Testosterone triggered a peak in the chart at 130-something minutes.
The problem is that thousands of different substances can trigger a chart peak at the same time (technically called retention time)
Remember it's black market drugs he's testing, so they could contain everything.
Compare that to a GC-MS chart for Testosterone (professionally tested at a University)
Unit 9: Crime: GC-IRMS
In stark contrast, the peaks in the GC-MS chart are virtually unique for Testosterone.
As you can read in the above link, they use GC-MS and NOT GC-FID to test for steroids.
(In fact, the tech paper advises to use IR infrared besides GC-MS for further certainty that it is indeed Testosterone in the sample)
Besides, there are many other inconsistent @Analyzer claims, like these
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/fackts-about-analyzer.134384809/
He also claimed he makes (makeshift) "reference standards" by purifying raws.
"The standard was prepared form purified and recrystallized raw compound."
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/ppl-dihydroboldenone-analyzer.134390468/#post-2107742
So, how can he be sure the raws actually contain the steroid they claim to be, without ever testing them with GC-MS?
"Anavar" could very well be, say Winstrol and @Analyzer couldn't realize it.
Also consider his refusal to provide in-depth charts and tables that led to the "ninety-something % purity" figures.
"I don't show calibration data anymore. Too much extra work to process all chromatograms and paste them into reports."
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/ppl-dihydroboldenone-analyzer.134390468/#post-2107742
And this only exposes him in the steroid identification part
He didn't provide any HPLC raw-data as to avoid being exposed in the quantification part (% of purity for raws, or concentration for finished liquid samples)
More to come, please stay tuned...
We all know how @jano ended up = dice tosser
I'm not accusing @Analyzer of being an impostor YET, so I hope he provides in-depth info on his testing methods.
He claims using GC-FID which doesn't identify steroids (or any other substance) by itself.
As an attached file you can see a (professionally made) GC-FID chart
this only tells you that Testosterone triggered a peak in the chart at 130-something minutes.
The problem is that thousands of different substances can trigger a chart peak at the same time (technically called retention time)
Remember it's black market drugs he's testing, so they could contain everything.
Compare that to a GC-MS chart for Testosterone (professionally tested at a University)
Unit 9: Crime: GC-IRMS
In stark contrast, the peaks in the GC-MS chart are virtually unique for Testosterone.
As you can read in the above link, they use GC-MS and NOT GC-FID to test for steroids.
(In fact, the tech paper advises to use IR infrared besides GC-MS for further certainty that it is indeed Testosterone in the sample)
Besides, there are many other inconsistent @Analyzer claims, like these
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/fackts-about-analyzer.134384809/
He also claimed he makes (makeshift) "reference standards" by purifying raws.
"The standard was prepared form purified and recrystallized raw compound."
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/ppl-dihydroboldenone-analyzer.134390468/#post-2107742
So, how can he be sure the raws actually contain the steroid they claim to be, without ever testing them with GC-MS?
"Anavar" could very well be, say Winstrol and @Analyzer couldn't realize it.
Also consider his refusal to provide in-depth charts and tables that led to the "ninety-something % purity" figures.
"I don't show calibration data anymore. Too much extra work to process all chromatograms and paste them into reports."
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/ppl-dihydroboldenone-analyzer.134390468/#post-2107742
And this only exposes him in the steroid identification part
He didn't provide any HPLC raw-data as to avoid being exposed in the quantification part (% of purity for raws, or concentration for finished liquid samples)
More to come, please stay tuned...
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@Analyzer urgently needs to urgently address his testing methods to get any further credibility.
We all know how @jano ended up = dice tosser
I'm not accusing @Analyzer of being an impostor YET, so I hope he provides in-depth info on his testing methods.
He claims using GC-FID which doesn't identify steroids (or any other substance) by itself.
As an attached file you can see a (professionally made) GC-FID chart
View attachment 88914
this only tells you that Testosterone triggered a peak in the chart at 130-something minutes.
The problem is that thousands of different substances can trigger a chart peak at the same time (technically called retention time)
Remember it's black market drugs he's testing, so they could contain everything.
Compare that to a GC-MS chart for Testosterone (professionally tested at a University)
Unit 9: Crime: GC-IRMS
In stark contrast, the peaks in the GC-MS chart are virtually unique for Testosterone.
As you can read in the above link, they use GC-MS and NOT GC-FID to test for steroids.
(In fact, the tech paper advises to use IR infrared besides GC-MS for further certainty that it is indeed Testosterone in the sample)
Besides, there are many other inconsistent @Analyzer claims, like these
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/fackts-about-analyzer.134384809/
He also claimed he makes (makeshift) "reference standards" by purifying raws.
"The standard was prepared form purified and recrystallized raw compound."
PPL Dihydroboldenone {Analyzer}
So, how can he be sure the raws actually contain the steroid they claim to be, without ever testing them with GC-MS?
"Anavar" could very well be, say Winstrol and @Analyzer couldn't realize it.
Also consider his refusal to provide in-depth charts and tables that led to the "ninety-something % purity" figures.
"I don't show calibration data anymore. Too much extra work to process all chromatograms and paste them into reports."
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/ppl-dihydroboldenone-analyzer.134390468/#post-2107742
And this only exposes him in the steroid identification part
He didn't provide any HPLC raw-data as to avoid being exposed in the quantification part (% of purity for raws, or concentration for finished liquid samples)
More to come, please stay tuned...
This is a pretty significant accusation that I hope to see get addressed!
One question I have for you though, @master.on , and maybe I just missed it, but I thought the samples sent to @Analyzer are sent blindly, so he must be able to identify the steroid individually, because he is not told what is in the sample ahead of time, unless I am not understanding what you are saying above?
The Inedible Bulk
New Member
If I'm understanding the complaint properly... it's basically that he's using a process that can ID a substance, but it can't provide purity. So say you send him unmarked anadrol. He'll be able to ID it as anadrol, but he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 60% anadrol and 99.99% anadrol.
I don't know if this is true or not, since I have no background in chemistry, but I believe this is their concern.
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
If you look at this example:
https://thinksteroids.com/community...200e-2018-03-analyzer.134391809/#post-2161579
He was able to determine compound, carrier, solvent and dosage. Not certain if this was a blind sample, you'd have to ask @G2Ready about that.
Everyone needs to understand that @master.on is a fucking weirdo. We love him, he's entertaining, for the most part. But he gets on these kicks, where he goes around demanding answers for random things, then a week later, he doesn't care anymore, then he's off on his next crusade.
G2Ready
Well-known Member
All mine have been blind samples — all he sees is my different color tops
Wish I had a mass spec machine... seen a used one for 1.5 mil
G2Ready
Well-known Member
Rp Hpcl is included in most full reports—
As most information is above my pay grade I tend to only post first page a lot of times...
@master.on if u need a full report of any particular one Pm me and I’ll send it over so u can put it in a spread sheet
As most information is above my pay grade I tend to only post first page a lot of times...
@master.on if u need a full report of any particular one Pm me and I’ll send it over so u can put it in a spread sheet
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