Last GH Kit

[Deleted member 123722]

If you guys check my logs, I've been running GH since Jan at 5iu ED consistently, and I have about 25 days left until I'm out. I said when I run out, I would get off, and let the t3/clen combo help with my cutting cycle, as I've noticed the biggest changes when adding the clen and lowering cals to ~2600. But then the other part of me doesn't want to stop, because the GH has been part of my cutting cycle since it began. Although I may not notice anything from it, it could be doing something: the question is, how much of that something? We know GH isn't a fat-burner, but is apparently the best thing that mobilizes fat to be burned. I take my GH all in the am, while having my coffee on an empty stomach, wait about an hr before I eat, then hit the gym an hour after I eat.

The Quigdao Simga kits are only $70 a piece for domestic—a very low price compared to all other kits out there. I got them for $650 for a bulk of 10, so it doesn't cost me much to buy another 10 and continue. In other words, even if the GH wasn't doing much, it's not draining my wallet like it would be if pharm grade or with other kits running double the price.

But the other part of me says, I don't need the GH to reach the beach-body look I want—to get to 10-12% with abs. But I must say, this time around, I'm losing fat in places I didn't lose fat before, and I am carrying way more muscle, but just as lean as I was years ago and a lighter weight. Again, this could be just from the gear and diet, along with fat burners, as GH is not needed to get there.

Then there are the issues with GH raising blood sugar and possibly help cancers grow. I checked by BG levels in the am fasted, and they were 103. I don't have any history of cancer in my family, other than my grandfather who got pancreatic cancer, but that's because he worked with chemicals, which caused it.

Anyway, I'm looking to either be convinced to stay on or get off. Even if I got off for a month or so to see, but then I wonder if all the progress the GH could have made, would go away? It's not like the GH increases metabolism, so I don't see myself gaining weight from getting off; in fact, wouldn't I drop some intermuscular water weight?

Has anyone else here gotten off and noticed no difference being off? Again, I know once can achieve a lean physique without it, but it just has been part of my arsenal for so long, I wouldn't want to cut it out if it would make a big difference gone.

Thanks.

 

[Evom1]

If you're taking 5iu gh at once with the goal of fat burning, that won't do any more for you than 2iu. You will see much greater benefit from 2iu 2x per day than 5iu once in terms of fat loss

Also you're missing out on one of the biggest ways Hgh helps lean you out. Take it in the morning THEN do cardio, then eat. Don't take it, wait, eat. Cardio fasted with gh is the key for fat loss with it

 

[Deleted member 123722]

If you're taking 5iu gh at once with the goal of fat burning, that won't do any more for you than 2iu. You will see much greater benefit from 2iu 2x per day than 5iu once in terms of fat loss

Also you're missing out on one of the biggest ways Hgh helps lean you out. Take it in the morning THEN do cardio, then eat. Don't take it, wait, eat. Cardio fasted with gh is the key for fat loss with it

I don't do cardio in the AM because I workout in the AM, but my body is going to be burning fat for those two hours before I eat at 10am. After I eat at 10, I hit the gym at 11 -1130, so the GH is still in my body.

 

[Evom1]

I don't do cardio in the AM because I workout in the AM, but my body is going to be burning fat for those two hours before I eat at 10am. After I eat at 10, I hit the gym at 11 -1130, so the GH is still in my body.

You would see much more fat loss if you took your gh, immediately did cardio (literally just go outside and walk at a brisk pace) then eat then lift

Doesn't matter if the gh is still in your system after you've eaten, you're missing out on the benefits of using it in the morning as soon as you consume calories.

Now something like clen, yes it's just as effective pre food vs post

It's just you want to take the gh, let it mobilize the fatty acids, go do low intensity cardio and burn those, then eat.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

You would see much more fat loss if you took your gh, immediately did cardio (literally just go outside and walk at a brisk pace) then eat then lift

Doesn't matter if the gh is still in your system after you've eaten, you're missing out on the benefits of using it in the morning as soon as you consume calories.

Now something like clen, yes it's just as effective pre food vs post

It's just you want to take the gh, let it mobilize the fatty acids, go do low intensity cardio and burn those, then eat.

and why would 5ius not be beneficial; are you sayin it is a waste? Consider that I work out in the AM also, so I would think the benefits are there PWO as well.

I think @Type-IIx mentioned how taking GH all at once is better.

 

[Maximus014]

and why would 5ius not be beneficial; are you sayin it is a waste? Consider that I work out in the AM also, so I would think the benefits are there PWO as well.

I think @Type-IIx mentioned how taking GH all at once is better.

I've never gone above 3iu, and tbh i went back down to 2iu because fat loss was more or less the same

I run it 100mcg ghrp 2, do my mobility work (defrancos agile 8), then hit 2iu and do 20-30minutes fasted cardio on the treadmill starting at 0% incline and going up .5 every minute, as fat loss stalls I will ramp up then back down, and add a second session when it's stalls again, then add clean and t3

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I've never gone above 3iu, and tbh i went back down to 2iu because fat loss was more or less the same

I run it 100mcg ghrp 2, do my mobility work (defrancos agile 8), then hit 2iu and do 20-30minutes fasted cardio on the treadmill starting at 0% incline and going up .5 every minute, as fat loss stalls I will ramp up then back down, and add a second session when it's stalls again, then add clean and t3

are you doing generic or pharm grade?

 

[Maximus014]

are you doing generic or pharm grade?

Generic optis, they've treated me and my wife very well, she's down 19 lbs through diet and gh and walking the dogs no exercise outside of walking

 

[Evom1]

and why would 5ius not be beneficial; are you sayin it is a waste? Consider that I work out in the AM also, so I would think the benefits are there PWO as well.

I think @Type-IIx mentioned how taking GH all at once is better.

The lypolisis effects of Hgh max out at about 2iu per injection. You want multiple small doses, not one large dose. 2iu will burn just as much fat as 5iu or 8iu.

For fat burning effects you're best off taking 2iu before bed, then 2iu immediately upon waking up, take your clen and go for a walk. Then eat then train.

 

[Evom1]

I think @Type-IIx mentioned how taking GH all at once is better.

When the goal is growing yes (provided your diet is also designed for growing)

 

[Rido]

If you're taking 5iu gh at once with the goal of fat burning, that won't do any more for you than 2iu. You will see much greater benefit from 2iu 2x per day than 5iu once in terms of fat loss

Also you're missing out on one of the biggest ways Hgh helps lean you out. Take it in the morning THEN do cardio, then eat. Don't take it, wait, eat. Cardio fasted with gh is the key for fat loss with it

Actually... @Type-IIx has discussed this

A GH and fat loss protocol (rhGH lipolysis) that is science-based

Here is a gift for the Holidays from a likely forthcoming book I am considering releasing, titled Bolus: A Science-Based Guide to recombinant human Growth Hormone (rhGH) for the Athlete, Aesthete, and Aging Gym-goer This protocol is in direct contravention of the commonly touted 3-5x daily...

thinksteroids.com

I want to say one large bolus dose was said to be better than a bunch of small ones

 

[Trenbolona]

If you guys check my logs, I've been running GH since Jan at 5iu ED consistently, and I have about 25 days left until I'm out. I said when I run out, I would get off, and let the t3/clen combo help with my cutting cycle, as I've noticed the biggest changes when adding the clen and lowering cals to ~2600. But then the other part of me doesn't want to stop, because the GH has been part of my cutting cycle since it began. Although I may not notice anything from it, it could be doing something: the question is, how much of that something? We know GH isn't a fat-burner, but is apparently the best thing that mobilizes fat to be burned. I take my GH all in the am, while having my coffee on an empty stomach, wait about an hr before I eat, then hit the gym an hour after I eat.

The Quigdao Simga kits are only $70 a piece for domestic—a very low price compared to all other kits out there. I got them for $650 for a bulk of 10, so it doesn't cost me much to buy another 10 and continue. In other words, even if the GH wasn't doing much, it's not draining my wallet like it would be if pharm grade or with other kits running double the price.

But the other part of me says, I don't need the GH to reach the beach-body look I want—to get to 10-12% with abs. But I must say, this time around, I'm losing fat in places I didn't lose fat before, and I am carrying way more muscle, but just as lean as I was years ago and a lighter weight. Again, this could be just from the gear and diet, along with fat burners, as GH is not needed to get there.

Then there are the issues with GH raising blood sugar and possibly help cancers grow. I checked by BG levels in the am fasted, and they were 103. I don't have any history of cancer in my family, other than my grandfather who got pancreatic cancer, but that's because he worked with chemicals, which caused it.

Anyway, I'm looking to either be convinced to stay on or get off. Even if I got off for a month or so to see, but then I wonder if all the progress the GH could have made, would go away? It's not like the GH increases metabolism, so I don't see myself gaining weight from getting off; in fact, wouldn't I drop some intermuscular water weight?

Has anyone else here gotten off and noticed no difference being off? Again, I know once can achieve a lean physique without it, but it just has been part of my arsenal for so long, I wouldn't want to cut it out if it would make a big difference gone.

Thanks.

Do they have any current testing available on their kits? That is an outstanding price however it almost sounds to good to be legit

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Actually... @Type-IIx has discussed this

A GH and fat loss protocol (rhGH lipolysis) that is science-based

Here is a gift for the Holidays from a likely forthcoming book I am considering releasing, titled Bolus: A Science-Based Guide to recombinant human Growth Hormone (rhGH) for the Athlete, Aesthete, and Aging Gym-goer This protocol is in direct contravention of the commonly touted 3-5x daily...

thinksteroids.com

I want to say one large bolus dose was said to be better than a bunch of small ones

this is what I'm going off of

 

[Deleted member 123722]

but going back to my original post: how much is it really doing?

 

[M@NU]

Actually... @Type-IIx has discussed this

A GH and fat loss protocol (rhGH lipolysis) that is science-based

Here is a gift for the Holidays from a likely forthcoming book I am considering releasing, titled Bolus: A Science-Based Guide to recombinant human Growth Hormone (rhGH) for the Athlete, Aesthete, and Aging Gym-goer This protocol is in direct contravention of the commonly touted 3-5x daily...

thinksteroids.com

I want to say one large bolus dose was said to be better than a bunch of small ones

i dont buy this.
all the pros (from podcasts etc) split there daily dosage into several 2iu portions (or 3iu, depends on total). Ive heard of up to 6 times daily 2 iu of pharma hgh several times.
They do that for a reason. And i bet its not because they like pinning

 

[Rido]

i dont buy this.
all the pros (from podcasts etc) split there daily dosage into several 2iu portions (or 3iu, depends on total). Ive heard of up to 6 times daily 2 iu of pharma hgh several times.
They do that for a reason. And i bet its not because they like pinning

I guess are they doing it for growth or for fat loss?

That would be my big counter response back

 

[lilhawk]

What’s it doing? If you’re asking that, then I’d check the quality of your $70 per kit GH. IMO use pharma GH or don’t bother. GH shines when dieting hard especially.

 

[lilhawk]

i dont buy this.
all the pros (from podcasts etc) split there daily dosage into several 2iu portions (or 3iu, depends on total). Ive heard of up to 6 times daily 2 iu of pharma hgh several times.
They do that for a reason. And i bet its not because they like pinning

It’s always worked best for me when dieting if I split dosage. Currently doing 2iu 3x per day of Serostim. AM before fasted cardio, pre workout, then bedtime.

 

[Evom1]

but going back to my original post: how much is it really doing?

The way you're using it, how much is it really doing for fat loss? Not much at all

If you were to use 2iu before fasted cardio? It would be significant

 

[Evom1]

i dont buy this.
all the pros (from podcasts etc) split there daily dosage into several 2iu portions (or 3iu, depends on total). Ive heard of up to 6 times daily 2 iu of pharma hgh several times.
They do that for a reason. And i bet its not because they like pinning

Exactly. This is accurate. Bleu is a big advocate of this method and his guys come in Nasty Peeled. But I've never seen a pro say one large dose for fat loss