[Legend Pharmacueticals] [Anavar] - [Mass Spec] - [2014-09] [Angus]

[Dr JIM]

Have u any idea how reliable LabMax is at determining purity of a sample?

Zippo. Ziltch, Zero, In other words ITS WORTHLESS!!!

But hey if your willing to substitute some lame HPLC that grossly deviates from existing lab standards go for it.

Now if you want to KNOW the truth send me a sample from the same lot that Angus tested and I'll test it for NOTHING.

Why bc I'm tired of seeing BS lab analyses posted on Meso under the guise they are GTG, when NOTHING supports that contention!

 

[Capt Forest]

No problem. It will be sent. Let's begin discussion via pm

 

[Dr JIM]

Sounds good, but I'm only interested in the IDENTICAL sample lot that Angus tested.

Oh and one the I can tell you beyond ANY DOUBT, it's NOT 100% LMAO!!!

 

[dnml]

This is gonna get interesting......

 

[Capt Forest]

Dr. Jim no need to mock me.
I have var from the same lot. Lets begin this process.

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh I most certainly was not mocking YOU mate.

However I also don't want you to have unrealistic expectations based on the facts, because a considerable portion of the chemical analyses Angus has posted are not even close approximations of evidence based laboratory science.

For example, purity analyses based on MW!

The facts are there is no laboratory standard for such a practice bc it's completely UNRELIABLE!

Ergo it makes me curious what the motivation is and it should everyone else IMO.

Regards
Jim

 

[Capt Forest]

I got banned over at asf for posting this ms. I have no idea if its fake or real. But heavyiron is pretty pissed at me over it.

 

[Marcus]

Isn't Legend a sponsor there? Could be why...

 

[Capt Forest]

yeah but the ms is the same one i posted here and makes them look good. Heavy banned me for posting it saying its fake. that should be taken up with Angus I just posted the results.

 

[Marcus]

Ohhhh, I thought it was established that it was thought to be faked. I think they assume that and that's maybe why. That sux man. Dumb fucks for banning you though, just reporting results from a test

 

[Burrr]

Why do people think it's faked?

 

[Capt Forest]

i mean 100% purity is pretty sketcy its like impossible to get

 

[Marcus]

It is impossible... Pharma grade isnt 100%. It's usually in the high 90's and mostly 99.xx%. There are always impurities. That's just the way a compound is once exposed to literally ANYTHING

 

[Capt Forest]

i really just want Dr Jim to get this stuff and get me the actual results.

 

[Marcus]

Yaaa... It would be nice to know. The question is why would it come to 100%? If Angus was doin anything semi-legit he would at least know that ain't possible. So he either lied or his equipment is that fucked up and he shoulda known that those results are improbable. Right?

 

[Capt Forest]

dude i dont know. I had more then one sample sent into him. I also sent in rc labs tren e. You can see it also posted in this fourm

 

[Marcus]

Just saw that... Weird, don't know if it's accurate but it's obviously a believable number

 

[Burrr]

Angus has started using a different lab, no longer a time of flight mass spec but a gc/ms.
He is also completely removed from the process, he doesn't even review the results. He just middle man's the testing.

copy pasta below

"
Full Spectrum Testing: 10 people in a room, 2 blondes, 8 brunettes = 80% brunettes
HPLC Column testing: 10 People in a room, 2 blondes, 8 brunettes. 2 blondes are put in a different room and now = 100% brunettes.

Now that all that has been defined I get a lot of PM’s from people and sources that are excited because they just got an amazing find from a standup guy in China that wants to send them 99.9% pure raw material and has tests to prove it. When that raw material is put through the spectrum test they are always disappointed in the results, and rightfully so because they were sold on the idea that they had ultra-pure raw material. The problem is that our friends in China are running the HPLC column test, which we know isolates the target compound and then tests it for purity, and are selling it as a full spectrum test. You can spot a column test easily enough because the purity is always 98-99.9% pure. That isn’t to say that 97% isn’t possible with a spectrum test because we have seen that once or twice, but it is very rare.

So the moral of the story is that if you are in the market for raw material and you are being sold a Ferrari at Hyundai price, you might scrutinize the proof a little. Then take your newly gained knowledge and wield it so that you don’t become a victim."

 

[Marcus]

Angus has started using a different lab, no longer a time of flight mass spec but a gc/ms.
He is also completely removed from the process, he doesn't even review the results. He just middle man's the testing.

copy pasta below

"
Full Spectrum Testing: 10 people in a room, 2 blondes, 8 brunettes = 80% brunettes
HPLC Column testing: 10 People in a room, 2 blondes, 8 brunettes. 2 blondes are put in a different room and now = 100% brunettes.

Now that all that has been defined I get a lot of PM’s from people and sources that are excited because they just got an amazing find from a standup guy in China that wants to send them 99.9% pure raw material and has tests to prove it. When that raw material is put through the spectrum test they are always disappointed in the results, and rightfully so because they were sold on the idea that they had ultra-pure raw material. The problem is that our friends in China are running the HPLC column test, which we know isolates the target compound and then tests it for purity, and are selling it as a full spectrum test. You can spot a column test easily enough because the purity is always 98-99.9% pure. That isn’t to say that 97% isn’t possible with a spectrum test because we have seen that once or twice, but it is very rare.

So the moral of the story is that if you are in the market for raw material and you are being sold a Ferrari at Hyundai price, you might scrutinize the proof a little. Then take your newly gained knowledge and wield it so that you don’t become a victim."

Thank you for this explanation Burrr... Explained in almost retard terms so that I may understand. Appreciated man!

 

[mercury]

I have been too long around to trust any tests posted on internet. Some are faked some might be real.

So far we know that all is 50% pure so what is the purpose to keep testing.