Looking for some help on blood tests

[Bryan77]

Hello all,
I started my first cycle. Testosterone only.
Bio TS400
Testosterone Decanoate 200mg
Testosterone Isocaproate 30mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 40mg
Testosterone Propionate 30mg
Testosterone Cypionate 50mg
Testosterone Enanthate 50mg
First pin was 1cc on 07/08 in right thigh.
Second pin 1cc on 07/14 in left thigh.
On 07/15 I started feeling like shit. Tightness in chest. Shortness of breath. Fingers tingling sometimes. High/erratic heart beat and blood pressure. So I went to urgent care on 07/16. NP on duty no DR. Basically told me I’m an idiot. Nothing she can do. I told her that I wanted ECG and that came back normal. Then I did bloodwork. Now I know I should of ordered more tests. And I do have cholesterol, which is high. And comprehensive metabolic panel. But everything was well within range
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT

Your Value

11.3 Thousand/uL

Standard Range

3.8 - 10.8 Thousand/uL

RED BLOOD CELL COUNT

Your Value

4.82 Million/uL

Standard Range

4.20 - 5.80 Million/uL

Hemoglobin

Your Value

14.6 g/dL

Standard Range

13.2 - 17.1 g/dL

HEMATOCRIT

Your Value

42.8 %

Standard Range

38.5 - 50.0 %

MCV

Your Value

88.8 fL

Standard Range

80.0 - 100.0 fL

MCH

Your Value

30.4 pg

Standard Range

27.0 - 33.0 pg

MCHC

Your Value

34.2 g/dL

Standard Range

32.0 - 36.0 g/dL

RDW

Your Value

12.8 %

Standard Range

11.0 - 15.0 %

Platelet Count

Your Value

267 Thousand/uL

Standard Range

140 - 400 Thousand/uL

MPV

Your Value

7.0 fL

Standard Range

7.5 - 12.5 fL

ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS

Your Value

8,927 cells/uL

Standard Range

1,500 - 7,800 cells/uL

ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES

Your Value

1,232 cells/uL

Standard Range

850 - 3,900 cells/uL

ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES

Your Value

972 cells/uL

Standard Range

200 - 950 cells/uL

ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS

Your Value

113 cells/uL

Standard Range

15 - 500 cells/uL

ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS

Your Value

57 cells/uL

Standard Range

0 - 200 cells/uL

NEUTROPHILS

Your Value

79.0 %

Standard Range

%

LYMPHOCYTES

Your Value

10.9 %

Standard Range

%

MONOCYTES

Your Value

8.6 %

Standard Range

%

EOSINOPHILS

Your Value

1.0 %

Standard Range

%

BASOPHILS

Your Value

0.5 %

Standard Range

%

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL

Your Value

1,744 ng/dL

Standard Range

250 - 827 ng/dL

ESTROGEN,TOTAL,SERUM

Your Value

115.0 pg/mL

Standard Range

60 - 190 pg/mL
High WBC, high
NEUTROPHILS, slightly high
MONOCYTES and slightly low MPV.
I didn’t do pre cycle bloodwork. My bad. But I did do a testosterone test on 05/31 and it was only 299. Could it be that testosterone jumped too high too fast to 1744? I still feel like shit. I did take a .25 tab of aramidex on 07/18 then another .25 tab on 07/18 thinking that might help. But it didn’t. Any in site would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

 

[Bryan77]

I’m 41 and have been treated for high bp for past 5yrs. I take Bystolic. And bp was always right at 120/70

 

[Dead]

Next time take ONE ESTER of testosterone or you’re never gonna figure out how it effects u with five different friggin esters.

Atleast if u had test cyp you’d have a grasp on how ur blood pressure and estrogen conversion and kick in time and mental effects reacted.
But u got 10 different fuckin esters good luck figuring that shit out. It’s ur first cycle I’d buy test cyp immediately and drop that shit

 

[Dead]

I’m willing to bet ur symptoms may be related to the wild fluctuations of levels due to the 1000s of esters in that mix.

Secondly if u plan on doing pct at the end of this cycle good luck keeping ur gains. 300 level test? 40? Sounds like it’d be better to just get on trt and drop the cycle. See how the trt is and maybe consider a test only blast down the road

And don’t use that shit mix for trt

 

[Bryan77]

Switching to one ester makes sense. But honestly I’m not sure if I should continue. Looking for more info on symptoms. Or at least hoping they’ll go away at some point I’m wondering if it’s bc the decanoate has such a long half life? Thanks for reply

 

[jJjburton]

Just stop running stuff and go to the docotor for trt. You obviously did not study anything before you used it. I read for 2 yr and learned about eah compond before I used steroids.

 

[Bryan77]

Not sure why you’d think I didn’t study about it. You guys act like TRT is an easy thing to get. My PCP is a beta douchebag vegetarian. He knows the numbers. Thinks that’s fine. And how do you go get TRT once you’ve already started taking?

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

If ur using a test mix 400 and u pinned one cc twice that's 800mg of test in ur first week ever. U may be reacting to an Ester or even carrier. I think u started with too much. My first time with test prop I started 300mg a week initially and that raised BP and had my face red. You should have tried .5 a cc of 250 test e or c twice a week for ur first week or two which would be 250mg to see how u react and then double it after 2 weeks. Ull prolly be fine in a week when ur levels come down some. Watch ur bp

 

[Dead]

Not sure why you’d think I didn’t study about it. You guys act like TRT is an easy thing to get. My PCP is a beta douchebag vegetarian. He knows the numbers. Thinks that’s fine. And how do you go get TRT once you’ve already started taking?

Stop it completely don’t do pct wait three weeks go see new doc. But also idk how long decoanate takes to clear might have to wait a month

 

[Bryan77]

Thank you Airborne. I actually thought pinning another cc at 6 days was conservative. I see people saying you should pin that e3d. But I’m hoping you’re right. Heart rate seems to have stabilized a bit today. And I do feel better today

 

[Bryan77]

Thanks 350. It appears half life of decanoate is 15 days. So 30 days it should be completely out of system? Also, would my lvls be back to where they were? I guess what I’m asking is the 800mg I took enough to shut down my production? Thanks in advance

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

Thanks 350. It appears half life of decanoate is 15 days. So 30 days it should be completely out of system? Also, would my lvls be back to where they were? I guess what I’m asking is the 800mg I took enough to shut down my production? Thanks in advance

No

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

Thank you Airborne. I actually thought pinning another cc at 6 days was conservative. I see people saying you should pin that e3d. But I’m hoping you’re right. Heart rate seems to have stabilized a bit today. And I do feel better today

Oh I thought it was like 3.5 days....so maybe was the carrier but most who who dont tolerate carrier get mad pip and swelling.....

 

[Bryan77]

Pip wasn’t too bad in my opinion. Second was slightly worse then first. But what do I know. I’m new at this. But there was no swelling or redness. Just an ache. Definitely bearable

 

[Dead]

Thanks 350. It appears half life of decanoate is 15 days. So 30 days it should be completely out of system? Also, would my lvls be back to where they were? I guess what I’m asking is the 800mg I took enough to shut down my production? Thanks in advance

I’m not being a dick here but asking if ur levels will be back to where they were before u started is lack of research. U took exogenous testosterone ur pituitary won’t stsrt making testosterone again unless u take pct. that will make ur levels go back to what they were. Don’t do this if u want trt. You will feel like dog shit while ur levels drop but it’s the only way. And yeah ur production is screwed. Did u even buy a pct before deciding on this cycle

 

[Bryan77]

No

No to all of it?

 

[Bryan77]

I’m not being a dick here but asking if ur levels will be back to where they were before u started is lack of research. U took exogenous testosterone ur pituitary won’t stsrt making testosterone again unless u take pct. that will make ur levels go back to what they were. Don’t do this if u want trt. You will feel like dog shit while ur levels drop but it’s the only way. And yeah ur production is screwed. Did u even buy a pct before deciding on this cycle

I don’t take it as you being a dick. I’m not easily offended. And I do understand that taking exogenous test shuts down natural production and that’s the reason for pct. my question is basically how much/long til it shuts down. I haven’t seen anything on people only taking 2 injections of 400mg and stopping. I guess I should of worded it better. My bad. Thank you very much for your help. This is the reason I joined MESO instead of one of the other sites. I like your guys no bullshit knowledgeable responses

 

[Bryan77]

All I have for pct is clomid. I know a lot of people say nolva should be added to that. If not more. But honestly my plan was to run this bottle in 10 weeks. And if I felt good, lower dose and cruise. Like you said 350, test at 299 is shit. And I feel effects of that. Thanks

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

Pip wasn’t too bad in my opinion. Second was slightly worse then first. But what do I know. I’m new at this. But there was no swelling or redness. Just an ache. Definitely bearable

Personally if ur test numbers were what like 250 or about...that's sucks if ur under 60. So to cycle and come off you'll lose everything. Although if u dont have any low t symptoms and ur throwing dick then that's ok...u treat trt by symptoms not numbers. If you're insurance is awesome or u got va coverage see an endo and explain ur low test numbers. If u gotta do out of pocket theres trt clinics and organizations where a doctor interviews you like over webcam and reviews ur bloodwork to make changes and keep u dialed in. Runs bout 200 a month includes everything but labs. Self trt much cheaper but you'll need a few years research and knowledge. Prostate, bloods, cholesterol, BP, etc....lots to monitor. If u run a cycle I'd try a reputable source and try test cyp. 200mg split first week to check for reaction, then 500mg....keep in mind ur blood will thicken in a month or two and ull prolly have to donate at 6 or 8 weeks. Lastly u cant pursue trt with test levels at 3500 so ud wait till ur levels are natty again. If I did a cycle I'd then pct and recover then see an endo. Dont jump into it. You need to be educated and have everything before u start...nolvadex, an AI, clomid...hcg maybe.

 

[Dead]

I don’t take it as you being a dick. I’m not easily offended. And I do understand that taking exogenous test shuts down natural production and that’s the reason for pct. my question is basically how much/long til it shuts down. I haven’t seen anything on people only taking 2 injections of 400mg and stopping. I guess I should of worded it better. My bad. Thank you very much for your help. This is the reason I joined MESO instead of one of the other sites. I like your guys no bullshit knowledgeable responses

Chances are the fact u have the deca ester you’ll be shut down.

Only your body is gonna have its own reaction to amount you’ve been taking for how long