Looking to use Raloxifene for HGH-induced Gyno

[Vesuvius]

I took 3IU HGH every day for 3 months and gave myself minor gyno. There isn’t a lot of tissue growth but my nipples are permanently hard and very sensitive despite me being off HGH for 4 months now.

What are the best sources for Ralox and what dose/duration do you guys suggest?

 

[Alert_Custard]

What were your estrogen and test levels during that time?

 

[Vesuvius]

What were your estrogen and test levels during that time?

For reference, the only thing I was on was HGH. Not Test or anything else. Before getting on HGH, these were my levels:

Testosterone, Total LC/MS: 1,238 (250-1100)
Testosterone, Free Equilibrium Dialysis: 195.6 (35-155)

Estradiol, Ultra-sensitive LC/MS: 27 (<=29)
Estradiol, Free: 0.43 (<=0.45)

Prolactin: 8.8 (2-18)

During my HGH experiment:

Testosterone, Total LC/MS: 1,134 (250-1100)
Testosterone, Free Equilibrium Dialysis: 166.7 (35-155)

Estradiol, Ultra-sensitive: 45 (<=29)
Estradiol, Free: 0.87 (<=0.45)

Prolactin: 12.9 (2-18)

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Ralox is usually used at 50 iirc. Serms like nolva or ralox will stop more gyno but if you have it you got what you have in most cases.

There's alot of acedotal diy ways of combining a serm in conjunction with an ai to help. In most cases there is a tapering off method to it.

 

[Vesuvius]

Ralox is usually used at 50 iirc. Serms like nolva or ralox will stop more gyno but if you have it you got what you have in most cases.

There's alot of acedotal diy ways of combining a serm in conjunction with an ai to help. In most cases there is a tapering off method to it.

For me, there isn’t any tissue growth. My nipples are just hard at the tips and sensitive despite me being off HGH for 4 months now. So I’m hoping it’s reversible

 

[Liter O' Test]

personally ive seen a lot of people say it doesnt work and it all comes from a few posts a few years ago

 

[Vesuvius]

personally ive seen a lot of people say it doesnt work and it all comes from a few posts a few years ago

I hope that’s not the case because my nipples are sensitive as fuck and I’ve been off HGH for 4 months now lol. I got the idea from Reddit and this MPMD article: How To Get Rid Of Gyno Without Surgery - Raloxifene For Gyno

 

[Liter O' Test]

I hope that’s not the case because my nipples are sensitive as fuck and I’ve been off HGH for 4 months now lol. I got the idea from Reddit and this MPMD article: How To Get Rid Of Gyno Without Surgery - Raloxifene For Gyno

is your estrogen in range? they shouldnt be sensitive still

 

[Vesuvius]

is your estrogen in range? they shouldnt be sensitive still

I don’t know why but they’re still sensitive! So weird

 

[RiceNKimchi]

I have ralox, nolva on hand just in case. If i was in your situation, I would take ralox first and get bloods right after. Now I have a baseline to move forward.

It sounds like you're just scared of the possibility though.

 

[TestosTyrone]

Might have to hit it with the holy trinity. Try out a small dose of caber once, 12mg exemestane once, and 20mg nolvadex until you notice a difference. Get blood work. Start a reverse gyno experiment. I've read that ralox can cause blood clots so be careful with it.

 

[Ghoul]

No need to over complicate it. This issue is black and white.

 

[UncleBuns]

Not look into downplay your situation but sensitive nipples is not gyno. In your case I would not bother with a SERM. Gyno is actual growth of breast tissue/glands.

I've never heard of what you're experiencing. I would really think about all aspects of your life at that time and consider that the cause is something else. Could be GH but It seems very unlikely that 3 IU would cause that.

 

[Ouch]

I would actually lean towards this being a prolactin issue and would give a natural reducer a try…like p5p. Really can’t hurt to try and see if this fixes the sensitivity.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

I would actually lean towards this being a prolactin issue and would give a natural reducer a try…like p5p. Really can’t hurt to try and see if this fixes the sensitivity.

P5p is a minimal approach if it is prolactin but bloods tell all.

 

[Liter O' Test]

P5p is a minimal approach if it is prolactin but bloods tell all.

yeah caber or prami is overkill, definately dont need a dopamine agonist to lower mildly elevated prolactin while being natty

i honestly think its all in the original posters head though

erect nipples =/= gyno

and the fact he was doing 3iu of hgh while natty makes me think hes an overthinker type

 

[Vesuvius]

Not look into downplay your situation but sensitive nipples is not gyno. In your case I would not bother with a SERM. Gyno is actual growth of breast tissue/glands.

I've never heard of what you're experiencing. I would really think about all aspects of your life at that time and consider that the cause is something else. Could be GH but It seems very unlikely that 3 IU would cause that.

In my original post I mentioned that there is some tissue growth. This started in the middle of my HGH cycle and I’ve never had nipple issues before. It was definitely the HGH. No question. I’m very observant of my body and noticed the change immediately.

 

[Vesuvius]

yeah caber or prami is overkill, definately dont need a dopamine agonist to lower mildly elevated prolactin while being natty

i honestly think its all in the original posters head though

erect nipples =/= gyno

and the fact he was doing 3iu of hgh while natty makes me think hes an overthinker type

In my original post I mentioned that there is actual tissue growth. I don’t only have erect nipples. And I tried HGH because I had very low IGF-1 levels and was hoping to see some improvement in symptoms if I were to get my level in the middle of the reference range. But I appreciate your unsolicited psychoanalyses of me.

 

[Vesuvius]

P5p is a minimal approach if it is prolactin but bloods tell all.

My prolactin level was 13 (2-18) during the time I was on HGH.

 

[Liter O' Test]

For me, there isn’t any tissue growth.

In my original post I mentioned that there is actual tissue growth. I don’t only have erect nipples. And I tried HGH because I had very low IGF-1 levels and was hoping to see some improvement in symptoms if I were to get my level in the middle of the reference range. But I appreciate your unsolicited psychoanalyses of me.