Loose skin protocol — GHKCU?

[RockyP]

Androgens, GH, quality skin firming lotion applied 2-3x daily. After that it’s a crap shoot. I’ve seen lots of guys competing in masters shows who are peeled inside out but still have a little loose skin in the lower middle abs likely from losing a lot of weight later in life. Skin elasticity is genetically determined like most things.

Not sure if masteron would be something to avoid in this respect. Some users report drying of the skin / looking like an alligator bag etc. The opposite of what we’d want to firm skin that’s lost some elasticity.

One option, and I’m not suggesting this but it’s there, is to run your compounds to obtain some level of water retention. I’m sure you’ve seen the guys who have defined abs over a slightly bloated belly. I’m not taking about a huge gut. Just not a vacuumed men’s physique type waist. Anything that makes that skin more taught is going to involve some subcutaneous fluid retention

Just to piggy-back off my own post here - I've been running mast with test / tren for the past several weeks and along with the rest of my regimen / diet / training, etc. I am noticing an up-tick in skin firming in the mid section. I also apply a firming lotion, no clue if it's any good, at least 3 times per day. I had previously said that Mast might be no-go here but not seeing any negative effects. That said, there are so many moving parts influencing the level of fluid in our skin not the least of which are hormonal balances, electrolytes, even the weather (extreme cold, etc.).

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Maybe your midsection is just more filled out also? Only way to tell is progress photos for yourself

 

[ni3k]

spent a long time as a fatty, lost it at 40yo. at 43, the skin still bothered me so threw a lot of money on an op in July, but much happier with how i look now tbh, recovery was pretty brutal but was worth it for me

 

[Nardicus69]

I have been using .1% once a day, indian pharm, it also seems to help with stretch marks a bit.

Send link ? I got scammed trying to Purchase Taz and tret on India mart

 

[lipzz17]

What you guys think in using GHK after a tummy tuck? For better and faster skin healing

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Just to piggy-back off my own post here - I've been running mast with test / tren for the past several weeks and along with the rest of my regimen / diet / training, etc. I am noticing an up-tick in skin firming in the mid section. I also apply a firming lotion, no clue if it's any good, at least 3 times per day. I had previously said that Mast might be no-go here but not seeing any negative effects. That said, there are so many moving parts influencing the level of fluid in our skin not the least of which are hormonal balances, electrolytes, even the weather (extreme cold, etc.).

Sadly I doubt any of those chemicals actually tighten skin. What you might be observing is your skin shifting into new position and muscle filling in if you are working out. The process takes about a year after you reach your target weight, from what I understand, which is why they say to not do any sort of surgery for at least a year to see how it looks first.

The only thing I have found to actually tighten skin is RF treatment. Women know a lot about this already because they use it on their face to remove wrinkles. We guys are less informed because we usually dont care. What this does is disrupt the collagen at the binding level forcing the body to create new collagen and reform. When it does, it smooths out wrinkles and tightens the skin. Its subtle, so dont expect that to replace a tummy tuck but it works if pictures are to be believed. There is also higher frequency treatments for melting fat but I dont think that helps the skin per se and I think its better to just lose that the normal way. If you just have a little loose skin and wrinkles, RF is the way to go. If you have actual folds, then its really just surgery.

From what I can tell the only difference between medical RF treatment and the home devices are power. Medical ones are very powerful and you do that only once and wait 6 months for results. Take home cheap ones are used daily and seem to be annoying for that reason but they apparently work after long term use. There are middle ground devices that you find in spas and such which work sort of in between. Im still researching this stuff.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

spent a long time as a fatty, lost it at 40yo. at 43, the skin still bothered me so threw a lot of money on an op in July, but much happier with how i look now tbh, recovery was pretty brutal but was worth it for me
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Just curious, did you try RF treatment before surgery?

 

[RockyP]

Sadly I doubt any of those chemicals actually tighten skin. What you might be observing is your skin shifting into new position and muscle filling in if you are working out. The process takes about a year after you reach your target weight, from what I understand, which is why they say to not do any sort of surgery for at least a year to see how it looks first.

The only thing I have found to actually tighten skin is RF treatment. Women know a lot about this already because they use it on their face to remove wrinkles. We guys are less informed because we usually dont care. What this does is disrupt the collagen at the binding level forcing the body to create new collagen and reform. When it does, it smooths out wrinkles and tightens the skin. Its subtle, so dont expect that to replace a tummy tuck but it works if pictures are to be believed. There is also higher frequency treatments for melting fat but I dont think that helps the skin per se and I think its better to just lose that the normal way. If you just have a little loose skin and wrinkles, RF is the way to go. If you have actual folds, then its really just surgery.

From what I can tell the only difference between medical RF treatment and the home devices are power. Medical ones are very powerful and you do that only once and wait 6 months for results. Take home cheap ones are used daily and seem to be annoying for that reason but they apparently work after long term use. There are middle ground devices that you find in spas and such which work sort of in between. Im still researching this stuff.

Appreciate your input but my Experience has been different. Androgens and HGH have worked for me. Could be due to genetics in terms of residual elasticity. I agree it doesn’t work for everyone. If it did the masters shows wouldn’t be full of guys with saggy lower ab pooches.

 

[Swedishsteel]

spent a long time as a fatty, lost it at 40yo. at 43, the skin still bothered me so threw a lot of money on an op in July, but much happier with how i look now tbh, recovery was pretty brutal but was worth it for me
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Dont do my mistake and use a regular scar tape. Use silicone

 

[Swedishsteel]

Is anyone with estrogen issues getting estrogen sides? without being on a AI

As copper is extremely estrogenic. Females that got copper IUD develop PCOS after a few year (estrogen dominance). Yet we need a low dose in order to produce oxygen and collagen. 2mg copper per day gives me estro sides in a few days