Pinnacle Elements
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Are you monitoring your GFR? 4 months is a long var cycle
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Horror Cock
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Anyone tested var solo (nothing more than trt aside) at varying doses to establish long term safe dose? One rat study converting to average human ran 25mg/day and it was negative on the heart. 10mg shouldn't directly mess the heart but is it still too high for the cholestrol? And I realize that everyone responds differently. Share it if anyone's HDL was noticeably impacted at 10mg. Because 10mg is good PWO for me still I would love to run it year round.
Horror Cock
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Wait I remember vigorous Steve saying something about low steady var usage.
Pinnacle Elements
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If you wanna be the rat to study, by all means go ahead. You already said the most important part in that everyone is different.
10mg if you’re a man probably will do next to nothing noticeable. I do like var but it crushed my HDL from ~40 to fucking 9. Was doing 60mg. Also I got lethargic as fuck. Had to cut the cycle short.
Horror Cock
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Yeah for the most part people wrote that under 40mg is doable with the lipids while over 40 is guaranteed to mess you up but they're talking about cycles. Not year round.
10mg has a very mild effect PWO, barely noticable but it exists. 20mg is better and 40mg was best, I also didn't notice much more of an immediate PWO boost going up from there, consistent with other people's reports.
Well, 10mg per day is 70mg per week, remember some people do TRT with only 70mg testosterone per week so it's not totally useless unless you're already blasting supraphysiological injectables.
There literally is an added pump with just 10mg, and yes I'm worried that even that amount could tank HDL when taken for long enough.
fike
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Yes, sir. I MUST keep a close monthly eye on my eGFR because I have systemic lupus and Stage II CKD. Not saying the var helped by any means, but all compliment and other lupus numbers as well as eGFR have actually improved to my best levels since diagnoses of these diseases. I credit the eGFR to hydrating A LOT more since using the daily var and the other numbers to a combination of several other things that have helped suppress my immune system.
Edit: I will add that I'm off the var now to give my liver a break a break. Numbers weren't very high, but still need a break every now and again.
AbstractMind
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20mg of real anavar you’ll definitely feel. Gave me some weird swelling in my temporalis and jaw muscles. Also made my lymph nodes swell up. Shit don’t agree with me
Experiencing the same temporalis muscle swelling since I’ve been on Cat Cafe USAs var. Doing 50mg a day and I have to chew as if I was an elder scared of breaking my jaw because the pump is so insane
AbstractMind
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Lol dude. I went the emergency room for it because I thought my brain was swelling. They rushed me back to do a Cat Scan and MRI and it just ended up being the actual muscle tissue pumped up lol
readalot
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Your question was never answered properly so here you go....
low dose var on trt/hgh any recommendation?
i was considering adding 25 mg of var everyday to my current 200 mg trt of test cypionate as well as my 3 iu of hgh and was curious if i had to titrate up on the var or just run it? I was unsure of lenghth for the var as i am on trt from dr and get tested every 12 weeks so i don't want my t...
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Brain gains!!! - I have to report that after 3rd week of Catcafe anavar the temporalis swelling has subsided quite a bit.
Lculebra
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Anavar is a great GREAT drug, it generates a geat muscular appearance and its side effects at low doses are practically non-existent as well as its hepatotoxicity.
Theworm
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Expect the lipid aspects
readalot
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False unless you are talking about true clinical dosing...who here is using 2.5 mg daily?
Some fun reading:
FIVE-YEAR OUTCOMES AFTER LONG-TERM OXANDROLONE ADMINISTRATION IN SEVERELY BURNED CHILDREN: A RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIAL - PMC
Administration of oxandrolone, a non-aromatizable testosterone analog, to children for 12 months following severe burn injury has been shown to improve height, increase bone mineral content (BMC), reduce cardiac work, and augment muscle strength. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
DailyMed - oxandrin- oxandrolone tablet
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readalot
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Lower SHBG ---> lower TT
Winstrol v Anavar - which oral cutting AAS is better?
It's not unheard of. " 33 year old female winstrol cycle diet and supps Hi Guys, Hope you're doing well. I am a 33 year old female, I work out 5-6 days a week. I recently decided to add winstrol to get cut and reduce body fat. I started off with 22% body fat and I'm trying to get to 15-17%...
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Lculebra
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Interesting article, however this article you share ratifies what I said before "No adverse side effects were attributed to prolonged administration of oxandrolone" at low doses.False unless you are talking about true clinical dosing...who here is using 2.5 mg daily?
Some fun reading:
FIVE-YEAR OUTCOMES AFTER LONG-TERM OXANDROLONE ADMINISTRATION IN SEVERELY BURNED CHILDREN: A RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIAL - PMC
Administration of oxandrolone, a non-aromatizable testosterone analog, to children for 12 months following severe burn injury has been shown to improve height, increase bone mineral content (BMC), reduce cardiac work, and augment muscle strength. ...
DailyMed - oxandrin- oxandrolone tablet
dailymed.nlm.nih.gov
Lculebra
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Los aspectos lipídicos no son un problema si sigues una dieta cetogénica perfecta.
20mg per day, it's the perfect dose for me, no sides and a great dense vascular look. Not too crazy fake looking like winstrol, it's more natural looking. Favorite oral. Also, i don't get appetite loss or bad blood work on it. Have ran it upwards 3 months (i know, it's too much) but it was for an experiment. Everything good except a little hair loss.
Lculebra
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Estoy de acuerdo, aunque 3 meses no es mucho más bien me parece un rango óptimo, recuerda que la oxandrolona no es hepatotóxica y como dices la oxa es similar al Winstrol aunque para mí la diferencia es que el Winstrol aumenta el volumen muscular, al menos a A mí me pasa a razón de 30 mg.
readalot
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100 kg man:
low dose = 2.5 to maybe 5 mg/day oxandrolone"
low dose = "1 to 2 mg/day stanozolol"
If anyone is getting discernable anabolic benefit from that dosing then awesome. Very effective drugs for hereditary angioedema. I read your comment in the context of muscle building. Apologies if that wasn't your point and instead you were rightfully touting the marvelous fibrinolytic property of these drugs in the clinical treatment of autoimmune disease.
In the treatment of wasting disease even 10 to 20 mg/day will impact lipids. The dose response on hepatic lipase and lipids is not linear.
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