Winstrol v Anavar - which oral cutting AAS is better?

[Care1]

It's not unheard of.

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33 year old female winstrol cycle diet and supps​

Hi Guys,

Hope you're doing well. I am a 33 year old female, I work out 5-6 days a week. I recently decided to add winstrol to get cut and reduce body fat. I started off with 22% body fat and I'm trying to get to 15-17%. I started my first week with 1/2 a dose. I am now wrapping up 2nd week with 1 full pill each day of willy (10mg). I feel a little stronger, dry lips (but I drink plenty of water to hydrate and chap my lips), I am eating mostly protein. I'm also taking CLA daily, Zinc/Calcium/B stress complex/Vitamin D and ginkgo daily.

My question is: In my second week I haven't noticed much cutting. I'm looking at my stomach and I actually feel/ or look bloated. Is that normal? I was told in my 3rd week I should begin taking 2 tables daily. Should I cut to 1/2 a dose (5mg) again since I feel a little bloated? My throat gets a little dry (or I feel my voice has gotten a little deeper). I have not had any hair loss like I have read in some reviews. I would like to know based on your experience, at what point will I see the cutting take place? What do I do about this bloating (not sure why my stomach is sticking out a little more than usual- I am not pregnant)... Occasionally I get headaches so I drink more water, and I'm going harder on my workouts. I am not mixing this with any other steroid. I have tried clen before and did not like it one bit (too much jittery) and anavar (didn't do much but I never completed a cycle). I was told Willy works very well with females. Please let me know about the bloating and when I will start seeing some cutting in my BMI and over all body structure. I am trying to get a lean sculpture.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing back

 

[Care1]

I'm only speaking of only Oral winstrol in females only. I've never seen oral or injectable Winny bloat a male either.
I have injected my own wife with it sans bloat or problems. And I have known/seen many females using injectable stanozolol way back sans same problem.
I have experienced only one using oral and it bloated her and I have read way back when on the boards about females bloating on oral Winny and that the reason was something to do with SHBG and how it is higher in females and how it has a higher affinity to DHT. I want to say SHBG in the gut though it is produced in the liver. I just can't remember exactly what I read about it.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

50mg var 50mg winstrol best of both

 

[Care1]

From Anthonyny Roberts:
Oral vs Injectable Winstrol More Different than you think:
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When SHBG is lowered in women, there is more free testosterone floating around. And as we’ve seen, the oral is going to affect SHBG exponentially more than the injectable will. When we lower SHBG too much in women, we see a strong positive correlation with hyperandrogenism (10 ), and hirsuitism (abnormal growth of body hair), as well In fact, non-SHBG-bound testosterone may actually be the defining characteristic for identifying hyperandrogenism in women. In addition, low SHBG contributes to menstrual irregularity.(11)

Finally, and (partially) anecdotally, we also see a greater incidence of clitoral enlargement and acne when the oral version of Winstrol is used by women instead of the injectable. The reasons for this are obvious- When we increase free testosterone by lowering SHBG, we increase the amount of testosterone which is able to be 5a-reduced to DHT. DHT is the primary culprit for steroid induced acne, and is also the hormone responsible for external genital enlargement. Clearly, this is why we see the increased level of clitoral hypertrophy as well as acne when oral Winstrol is used by women. We can also see increased acne when men use Winstrol orally, but these effects are relatively minor when a 2mg/kg dose is being used to increase the effectiveness of other steroids in a cycle."

Says nothing about bloat but does speak about SHBG and females.

It's old info sure. Maybe this got correlated to be the reason for the bloat which here again shown not to be so uncommon:

A post from another board in 2004:

I have a female friend who is looking for some feedback about inj. winny for women. She is starting a new cycle , but she has never used an injectable. She took winny tabs the last cycle but she absolutely hated it. It caused her to have WAY too much water retention and as a matter of fact she hated it so much she quit it 6 weeks into a 12 week cycle. Some bros have told her that injectable is completely different from oral, but i know the compound is the same, so she is a little nervous and kind of thinking it will do the same thing. I was hoping some ladies(or my bros could tell about there ladies) on here had some experience with both and could tell me/her if there was a difference. Between the fear of an infection or abscess with a water based solution and the fear that she may become a water ballooned whale, she is about to talk herself out of it."

 

[Type-IIx]

From Anthonyny Roberts:
Oral vs Injectable Winstrol More Different than you think:
"
When SHBG is lowered in women, there is more free testosterone floating around. And as we’ve seen, the oral is going to affect SHBG exponentially more than the injectable will. When we lower SHBG too much in women, we see a strong positive correlation with hyperandrogenism (10 ), and hirsuitism (abnormal growth of body hair), as well In fact, non-SHBG-bound testosterone may actually be the defining characteristic for identifying hyperandrogenism in women. In addition, low SHBG contributes to menstrual irregularity.(11)

Finally, and (partially) anecdotally, we also see a greater incidence of clitoral enlargement and acne when the oral version of Winstrol is used by women instead of the injectable. The reasons for this are obvious- When we increase free testosterone by lowering SHBG, we increase the amount of testosterone which is able to be 5a-reduced to DHT. DHT is the primary culprit for steroid induced acne, and is also the hormone responsible for external genital enlargement. Clearly, this is why we see the increased level of clitoral hypertrophy as well as acne when oral Winstrol is used by women. We can also see increased acne when men use Winstrol orally, but these effects are relatively minor when a 2mg/kg dose is being used to increase the effectiveness of other steroids in a cycle."

Says nothing about bloat but does speak about SHBG and females.

It's old info sure. Maybe this got correlated to be the reason for the bloat which here again shown not to be so uncommon:

A post from another board in 2004:

I have a female friend who is looking for some feedback about inj. winny for women. She is starting a new cycle , but she has never used an injectable. She took winny tabs the last cycle but she absolutely hated it. It caused her to have WAY too much water retention and as a matter of fact she hated it so much she quit it 6 weeks into a 12 week cycle. Some bros have told her that injectable is completely different from oral, but i know the compound is the same, so she is a little nervous and kind of thinking it will do the same thing. I was hoping some ladies(or my bros could tell about there ladies) on here had some experience with both and could tell me/her if there was a difference. Between the fear of an infection or abscess with a water based solution and the fear that she may become a water ballooned whale, she is about to talk herself out of it."

The AR article says nothing about bloat so, yeah, at best irrelevant, if not evidence of its omission (strengthening the case that bloating is not an effect of winstrol).

The two anecdotes of females suffering apparent water retention (one's not even a damn anecdote, it's a "I have a friend who reports" post) are not evidence of winstrol bloat. In fact, I've surely seen more good bros claim "Tren moonface" and "Anavar bloat" than this paltry selection.

Humans are just very poor at assessing cause/effect and make mistakes of attribution as a rule. Factors such as diet, fluid intake (clearly controlling in the first anecdote), and other drugs, are important to consider; and the best bros, those most confident, and convinced of their assessment of cause & effect, are still human. To err is to be human.

 

[Care1]

So yes, it does reduce SHBG but females have a higher amount of SHBG and SHBG has a higher affinity to DHT and since lowered SHBG frees up testosterone what does testosterone do in females period and to other hormones in women and what does the other hormones do if altered from that? Maybe that is the reason why in fact some females do bloat on stanozolol. Or maybe they have some underlying condition like polycystic ovary syndrome perhaps...for whatever reason- the reason I would like to find out exactly if anyone has any insight beyond general steroid knowledge.
I only said I seem to remember it having something to do with females and their SHBG being higher in the gut (I may remember that gut/stomach part wrongly or not exactly bc SHBG is produced in the liver) and that having something to do with it. But in 20+ years on the boards and 30+ years in the gear world; I have in fact seen once for myself directly and read many instances of females bloating on stanozolol and there was a time 2004ish that it was spread on boards that females bloated from Oral Winny only due to SHBG(though I'm not sure I remember why they said it was or how it pertained to females higher SHBG possibly in their gut).
Perhaps it was bc it's effect in testosterone and that's effect on other hormones (progesterone or estrogen)- not sure. So I'm not saying winny directly causes bloat or not. But indirectly or not women have bloated after starting oral Winny and in the case I have personal experience with it wasn't diet.
They have menstrual cycles and such things and different balances of hormones us males don't have so maybe it's something to do with that. Idk. I have a medical background but female hormones and how they react to exogenous hormones is not something that was in my studies or field. I've been out of that field for a long time also.
I am asking for a reason and I would like to find this reason why some females have bloated after starting Winny if any one has any insight. I read it on many boards back then. I admit I'm not brushed up on all the current science that has come into boards in the last lotta years bc all I personally do is TRT these days so I'm not seeking comfort by seeking psychological control by knowing. I'm just seeing if anyone can offer me any insight.
Maybe she did have an underlying condition. Idk.
I just know it's beyond all gear reduce SHBG dose dependent and Winny leans/dries ppl out. It is only oral Winny and in some females apparently. The part I did not share bc is this; same gf later in relationship: injected Winny and had completely different aesthetic effect.
So I wasn't bashing Winny just asking for insight. I'm not trying to know it all it be Mr. board guru. Haha just an old man asking for some light by someone with any insight if they're around.

 

[Type-IIx]

So yes, it does reduce SHBG but females have a higher amount of SHBG and SHBG has a higher affinity to DHT and since lowered SHBG frees up testosterone what does testosterone do in females period and to other hormones in women and what does the other hormones do if altered from that? Maybe that is the reason why in fact some females do bloat on stanozolol. Or maybe they have some underlying condition like polycystic ovary syndrome perhaps...for whatever reason- the reason I would like to find out exactly if anyone has any insight beyond general steroid knowledge.
I only said I seem to remember it having something to do with females and their SHBG being higher in the gut (I may remember that gut/stomach part wrongly or not exactly bc SHBG is produced in the liver) and that having something to do with it. But in 20+ years on the boards and 30+ years in the gear world; I have in fact seen once for myself directly and read many instances of females bloating on stanozolol and there was a time 2004ish that it was spread on boards that females bloated from Oral Winny only due to SHBG(though I'm not sure I remember why they said it was or how it pertained to females higher SHBG possibly in their gut).
Perhaps it was bc it's effect in testosterone and that's effect on other hormones (progesterone or estrogen)- not sure. So I'm not saying winny directly causes bloat or not. But indirectly or not women have bloated after starting oral Winny and in the case I have personal experience with it wasn't diet.
They have menstrual cycles and such things and different balances of hormones us males don't have so maybe it's something to do with that. Idk. I have a medical background but female hormones and how they react to exogenous hormones is not something that was in my studies or field. I've been out of that field for a long time also.
I am asking for a reason and I would like to find this reason why some females have bloated after starting Winny if any one has any insight. I read it on many boards back then. I admit I'm not brushed up on all the current science that has come into boards in the last lotta years bc all I personally do is TRT these days so I'm not seeking comfort by seeking psychological control by knowing. I'm just seeing if anyone can offer me any insight.
Maybe she did have an underlying condition. Idk.
I just know it's beyond all gear reduce SHBG dose dependent and Winny leans/dries ppl out. It is only oral Winny and in some females apparently. The part I did not share bc is this; same gf later in relationship: injected Winny and had completely different aesthetic effect.
So I wasn't bashing Winny just asking for insight. I'm not trying to know it all it be Mr. board guru. Haha just an old man asking for some light by someone with any insight if they're around.

You're a savage for digging up forum posts from 2004 and an Anthony Roberts article that tangentially mentions SHBG on the topic of Winstrol to try to prove your point bro.

 

[Care1]

dude, I never said I didn't err. I admitted to such. I'm not saying it is or isnt bc of shbg. I'm saying that was going around on boards back in 2004 as a reason that females should use injectable instead of oral Winny specifically bc of bloat. However, I'm not some idiot newbie who just is unaware that it was diet caused. I'm very aware it could be some unknown cause and I'm very aware I don't remember exactly what was talked about alot on the boards back then. So I'm not trying to say my reasons are correct. They are incomplete and based on memory from back then. However that it was commonly spread on boards. I am asking for anyone that can give specific insight into oral Winny use by females and bloat for whatever reason.
MY personal experience. I gave my live in liquid oral Winny from the same jug I used and it bloated her and dried me out per usual and our diet was known by me. I did Winny first time in 1992 with suspension. I'm not trying to anecdote anything. EXCEPT that it was information spread on boards way back for whatever reason and that it was fairly common to read about females bloating from oral Winny. I said I remember, not that it was right, that it had something to do with SHBG. But you haven't really given me any information I didn't know just bashing and talking down like you're some totally informed person on all matters female and winstrol. Tell me something Idk junior. And heed your own words: to err by your accusations that it was never a common topic on boards and that I'm just unable to tell muscle gain by eye bc I like.you have an eye- lmfao Son, if you only knew. But that's ok. I just want to know why it is fairly common that females bloat on oral Winny. The science of why. Not.winny lowers shbg and that has nothing to do with it- tell me how so? Tell me how stanozolol binds with SHBG and frees up testosterone and what that may do in females...tell me specifically how oral stanozolol does or does not cause bloat by telling me exactly what it does all factors being the same otherwise. Bc it wasn't doing nor my eye. That's all I refute that you said: my eye and that it wasn't information on many boards back then that oral Winny caused bloat due to SHBG. I never said it was correct it not.

 

[Care1]

I'm not trying to prove females bloat on Oral Winny due to SHBG or not. I said maybe that old infotmation got construed/correlated incorrectly to be common information bc of that article. I already discredited it by saying it was old. Idgaf about being right or wrong. I just want to know specifically why or why not. All that proved was there was alot of info out back then. Most of our knowledge is borrowed at best by studies of another or another entity(except our personal experience) So even if I had some science- it's borrowed- so why act high and mighty and say "I know"? I read and maybe my source was off hence why I didn't believe hence why I asked in the first place. Then here you come acting like I said it as correct science. I ASKED. I don't ask what I already know. But obviously your ego is tied to knowing aas knowledge whereas idgaf I just want to know what is the best most current science and specifically how it works or does not work. So can you enlighten me or just throw out accusations to feel superior bc I don't need to feel superior. I need to get good information that's beyond what I'm already aware of. It's like you haven't even read the full of what I'm saying. I never said it's correct that specifically oral stanozolol specifically causes bloat in females. It may or may not be something to that. I simply said and proved bc of your accusations that it wasn't something that has never been seen or discussed on boards before. I'm too happy in my every day life to need to be right to feel good. Plus I'm married so being right all the time is futile! Hahaha I rather be happy. On this I'm asking to be informed. Not accused and saying my experience isn't my experience so you can feel right. I don't need to be right to be happy. I got a beautiful angel-freaky wife and great kids. And I love my life. So you be right all you want but you still ain't showed me shit but your egotistical superiority and us experienced folks see right through that shit Jr.
So you got anything in detail to show me? Or just "All aas reduce SHBG dose dependent" no shit Sherlock! So what does doing that with Winny do specifically in females?

 

[Care1]

Basically you got some help or deep biological science to offer or just your own superiority to prove? Everybody's ego's goal is to be superior dude. I just want to make sure when I answer the person's question that asked me; that I'm truly helping them with the best and truest most current knowledge available. Can anyone offer up such knowledge that I can look at/into?

 

[lukiss96]

The AR article says nothing about bloat so, yeah, at best irrelevant, if not evidence of its omission (strengthening the case that bloating is not an effect of winstrol).

The two anecdotes of females suffering apparent water retention (one's not even a damn anecdote, it's a "I have a friend who reports" post) are not evidence of winstrol bloat. In fact, I've surely seen more good bros claim "Tren moonface" and "Anavar bloat" than this paltry selection.

Humans are just very poor at assessing cause/effect and make mistakes of attribution as a rule. Factors such as diet, fluid intake (clearly controlling in the first anecdote), and other drugs, are important to consider; and the best bros, those most confident, and convinced of their assessment of cause & effect, are still human. To err is to be human.

Humans think anything is to blame but not themselves.

 

[Care1]

Gahdamn. I am aware that it didn't say anything about bloat. It was posted to show that it was said by a so called expert back then that "women should use i.m. Winny over oral Winny" and I even said that maybe it was misconstrued from that article from a so called expert that SHBG was the culprit bc that was going around on boards as the reason back in the day as I was told it wasn't commonly done so.
I have absolutely No Care if oral Winny in a female causes bloat or not. I only want to know some specific information that shows it or disproves it. That's all. Damn. I mean I do care to be fully informed before I offer advice- yes. But personally idgaf about if that's the reason it is or ain't.
I can see how it may be though. Bc if SHBG suppression in females does free up testosterone or cause an differentiation in some hormones.

In women, too much testosterone can cause insulin resistance and abdominal weight gain.

Plus, if other hormones compensate to attempt homeostasis what might they cause? For instance if progesterone is lowered or caused to go higher bc of or either impaired ovulation or bc it goes higher to maintain homeostasis hormonally?

Still, there's no information I have to show or not that oral Winny does or does not cause the bloating that many have experienced.

Somebody that knows please enlighten me? Bc it's obviously happened quite a bit that females have taken oral Winny and bloated. In my personal case it wasn't diet. Underlying condition? Maybe. Alot of women have ovarian cyst so....maybe it could indicate That.

All I was trying to show was a so called expert saying that women should use i.m. Winny instead of oral. And a reason had to do with SHBG and that maybe that turn d into it being spread as a reason why. Bc as one of my quoted post also said: he had been reading as much just as I had stated. So it was a fairly common thing shared on boards back then. I was a member at many: from small private boards like L.O.I to Mike Strong's Board, Gym Ace's Board, ASN and many more.
Right now.Im stuck at it may or may not be the culprit in females. I can see how it would by freeing up/raising free testosterone and impairing ovulation in females but It's speculation and I don't trust my own speculation. Hence why I'm asking someone to please enlighten me beyond oh Winny dries you out and anything differing from that is just silliness. I agree as far as injectable in females and as far as either in males. Knowing biologically what I do know; I want someone more studied than I to enlighten me as to specifically why or why not. That's all. Idc what it does in males. I used it myself and know via experience and common knowledge too. Hell

 

[Care1]

Well, well; it just so happens that in premenopausal females up to 55% of estrogen can be bound by SHBG so to lower SHBG in the women with higher SHBG binding to the higher side % of estrogen could in fact cause bloat by excessive freed up estrogen. Which is different than what lowering SHBG in men in who it is binded to testosterone at a higher % overall. Furthermore winstrol can cause gastrointestinal distress in some causing bloating of the belly exclusively which I have also read about(belly bloat only).
Furthermore if SHBG is high in a female say due to birth control then it could free up even more E2.
Again for anyone reading comprehension impaired. I'm only talking about it's effect in females. Probably not all females but enough that I've seen it and that it has been asked about on boards a plenty over 20+ years.
So lowering SHBG in men and women and even amongst only women - even premenopausal women- can cause a different thing due to that particular female's amount of hormones binded to SHBG perhaps partly dependent on how high her pre stanozolol SHBG is. Or more specifically how high her % of estrogen is bound by shbg. So let's say some chubby Chic who's trying to shortcut losing weight takes oral Winny bc she's scared of needles and she has high SHBG and a high % of estrogen bound to it- and she bloats after taking the Winny. It is easily possible.
Is it the winny's fault? Like stated: winny does what it does: no argument there and ole girl should definitely try some diet and exercise which that alone would lower her SHBG naturally and then after a while of that and her body adapting if she were to take the same winny not so much a shortcut- she probably wouldn't bloat from it. So, yes it's possible by lowering high SHBG in a female with a high % of estrogen bound to it bc though SHBG has a higher affinity for binding to testosterone in both male and female females- especially some will have much more estrogen bound by it bc they have much more estrogen period to overcome SHBG's preference for testosterone.

So, I'm not arguing anything. I never meant to. I was trying to get some info as to why it had happen over the years to some females and that I remembered reading it had something to do with SHBG I didn't even say it definitely did. I was just trying to get a lil help.

I definitely seen it happen with my own eyes and I definitely read about it quite a few times in those years where I frequented boards. Turns out it is very possible due to stanozolol's SHBG lowering effect in some and or it's belly bloating specifically due to gastric distress in some as well- for whatever reason.
Obviously not all and a fit female that already has a lower SHBG or lower amount of estrogen bound by it- it would not have this effect. The time I saw it she was thin but not fit and had just started to exercise. I can't speak for the females spoken of on those boards then.

 

[Lculebra]

Winstrol v Anavar - which oral cutting AAS is better?

I'm often asked the question of which oral cutting AAS is better - Winstrol or Anavar? As I always do when asked questions like this, I try my utmost best to explain the differences between both AAS including their peculiar bodybuilding benefits. My hope is to strike a chord with the person asking the question.

So in answering this particular question, I'd like to start by saying that as bodybuilders our respective bodybuilding needs may differ (albeit slightly). What ultimately matters when choosing an AAS is whether or not the anabolic steroid is able to safely and satisfactorily help in attaining specific bodybuilding goals.

Winstrol:

Winstrol as you know is a brand name for the AAS generically called stanozolol.

Winnie, as we often call this anabolic steroid, is so popular that it is viewed in some quarters as the second most used (and abused) oral AAS. The first place in this regard goes to Dianabol or Dbol.

Now Winnie is an AAS that is mainly taken by all levels of bodybuilders because of its potent cutting benefits.

As a matter of fact, Winstrol is a tried and trusted cutting agent and fat burning oral anabolic steroid.

But Winnie also helps in promoting lean skeletal muscle tissue. Winstrol does this by lowering your sex hormone-binding globulin or SHBG levels.

WTF does SHBG have to do with lean muscle tissue? you may ask…well by reducing your SHBG level, Winnie renders the SHBG bound testosterone in your body inactive.

With less testosterone attached to the SHBG, you have much more free-testosterone in your body.

And as you know free-testosterone is necessary for several physiological activities including reducing adipose skeletal muscle tissue or fat stores which leaves you with lean skeletal muscle tissue.

Winnie will significantly lower your body fat percentage to give you a dry, hard and vascular physique.

With Winstrol you don't have to worry about water retention as your muscle cells have reduced amounts of intracellular fluid as well as glycogen.

So in summary what makes Winnie such a popular oral cutting AAS amongst bodybuilders is that it helps to give a dry, hard, ripped, and vascular physique.

However, using Winstrol also comes with some drawbacks primarily due to its diuretic effects and these include:

• an increased risk of hepatic strain,
• hypertension,
• inflammation of joints which could lead to pain and discomfort,
• Female users of Winnie are at risk of masculinization side effects, especially when they misuse or abuse their use of Winstrol.

Typically, female users are advised to run cycles consisting of small daily dosages of 5 mg on the lowest side. (P.S: I advise that you never self-medicate, always consult an experienced bodybuilding trainer or a qualified medical doctor before running any AAS cycle)

So IS WINSTROL STEROID PILL GOOD OR BAD for you? You can find out more about it right here.

Anavar:

Anavar o Var (como a los culturistas les gusta llamar a este AAS) también es una marca del AAS oral conocido como oxandrolona. Var es un AAS oral suave que muchos culturistas toman para sus ciclos de corte.

Al igual que Winnie, Var también ayuda a quemar grasa corporal y al mismo tiempo promueve la masa muscular esquelética magra.

Var es igualmente conocido por reducir la grasa subcutánea y visceral (FV).

Entonces, si deseas reducir esa grasa abdominal, puedes considerar usar Var.

También debo enfatizar en este punto que Winnie reducirá igualmente la grasa subcutánea.

Sin embargo, Winnie puede causar un aumento en su grasa visceral que puede dejarlo con un físico algo hinchado a pesar de que Winstrol estimula el tejido muscular esquelético magro.

Var es capaz de estimular la quema de VF debido a su potente influencia sobre la sensibilidad a la insulina, además de aumentar los niveles de triyodotironina o T3.

Tus niveles de hormona T3 son importantes cuando se trata del metabolismo y el control del tejido adiposo (almacenes de grasa).

Pero como se mencionó anteriormente, Var se usa principalmente en ciclos de corte, por lo que si está buscando obtener ganancias de masa del músculo esquelético, este AAS oral no es para usted.

Si desea ganar masa muscular, puede probar AAS orales como Dbol y Anadrol (estén atentos a un hilo sobre estos esteroides).

Sin embargo, Var es un esteroide oral suave y seguro, lo que lo hace muy aceptable para su uso tanto por parte de culturistas masculinos como femeninos.

Sus niveles de tolerancia bastante altos son la razón por la que Var es más o menos un nombre familiar en el mundo del culturismo.

Es posible que Var no obtenga mi aprobación para un esteroide oral que pueda aumentar la masa del músculo esquelético, pero ciertamente obtiene mi aprobación si está buscando un esteroide oral suave que pueda aumentar la fuerza del músculo esquelético.

Var resulta útil para aumentar la fuerza del músculo esquelético, especialmente cuando necesitas realizar HIIT.

Pero al igual que Winnie, las culturistas deberían comenzar con pequeñas dosis de Var. Por lo general, debería ser suficiente entre 5 y 10 mg por día. Una vez más te aconsejo que nunca te automediques. Consulte a un entrenador de culturismo calificado o personal médico antes de usar cualquier AAS y eso incluye Anavar.

Una cosa buena de las culturistas que usan Var es que debido a que el AAS oral es suave, son menos propensas a sufrir efectos secundarios de virilización.

Así que eso es todo. Ahora, respondiendo a la pregunta de qué AAS oral es mejor: ¿Winstrol o Anavar? Bueno, depende totalmente de ti.

Pero si desea un AAS oral suave que le dé menos dolor de cabeza por el desarrollo de posibles efectos secundarios de masculinización y al mismo tiempo reduzca la grasa corporal, subcutánea y visceral en general, entonces Anavar es lo que necesita.

Sin embargo, si desea un AAS oral con el objetivo principal de proporcionarle tejido muscular esquelético magro y al mismo tiempo quemar grasa corporal para obtener músculos esqueléticos secos, duros y vascularizados, entonces Winnie es adecuado para usted.

Antes de decidir qué esteroide oral usar, le aconsejo que consulte a un médico, sólo para asegurarse de que desde el punto de vista médico esté bien.

Además, busque el valioso consejo de entrenadores de culturismo profesionales que tengan la experiencia suficiente para guiarlo en su viaje de culturismo y AAS.

Para obtener más información sobre los ciclos de Anavar, que incluyen: un ciclo independiente de Var, acumulaciones de Var para aumentar el volumen y reducir el volumen, posibles efectos secundarios y mucho más, consulte CICLO DE ANAVAR: CÓMO MAXIMIZAR SUS GANANCIAS aquí .

Excelente información

 

[readalot]

With less testosterone attached to the SHBG, you have much more free-testosterone in your body.

Nope. Are you referring to eugonadal individual or someone on exogenous Test?

Either way the result is not what you state.

Exogenous T case:
Stanozolol ---> lower SHBG ----> lower TT, FT constant, %FT increases.

What happens in the eugonadal case? Homework.

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Lowering SHBG increases %FT not FT.

High E2

I have never read anything about the gut detoxing estrogen. Where did you read this? Testosterone is made in the body or injected into it and never enters the gut. Once estrogen is in the blood stream how would the gut do that? The liver breaks it down and removes it from the blood stream. All...

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[Mongo966]

What happens in the eugonadal case? Homework.

lmao

 

[DoYouEvenLift]

Winstrol v Anavar - which oral cutting AAS is better?

I'm often asked the question of which oral cutting AAS is better - Winstrol or Anavar? As I always do when asked questions like this, I try my utmost best to explain the differences between both AAS including their peculiar bodybuilding benefits. My hope is to strike a chord with the person asking the question.

So in answering this particular question, I'd like to start by saying that as bodybuilders our respective bodybuilding needs may differ (albeit slightly). What ultimately matters when choosing an AAS is whether or not the anabolic steroid is able to safely and satisfactorily help in attaining specific bodybuilding goals.

Winstrol:

Winstrol as you know is a brand name for the AAS generically called stanozolol.

Winnie, as we often call this anabolic steroid, is so popular that it is viewed in some quarters as the second most used (and abused) oral AAS. The first place in this regard goes to Dianabol or Dbol.

Now Winnie is an AAS that is mainly taken by all levels of bodybuilders because of its potent cutting benefits.

As a matter of fact, Winstrol is a tried and trusted cutting agent and fat burning oral anabolic steroid.

But Winnie also helps in promoting lean skeletal muscle tissue. Winstrol does this by lowering your sex hormone-binding globulin or SHBG levels.

WTF does SHBG have to do with lean muscle tissue? you may ask…well by reducing your SHBG level, Winnie renders the SHBG bound testosterone in your body inactive.

With less testosterone attached to the SHBG, you have much more free-testosterone in your body.

And as you know free-testosterone is necessary for several physiological activities including reducing adipose skeletal muscle tissue or fat stores which leaves you with lean skeletal muscle tissue.

Winnie will significantly lower your body fat percentage to give you a dry, hard and vascular physique.

With Winstrol you don't have to worry about water retention as your muscle cells have reduced amounts of intracellular fluid as well as glycogen.

So in summary what makes Winnie such a popular oral cutting AAS amongst bodybuilders is that it helps to give a dry, hard, ripped, and vascular physique.

However, using Winstrol also comes with some drawbacks primarily due to its diuretic effects and these include:

• an increased risk of hepatic strain,
• hypertension,
• inflammation of joints which could lead to pain and discomfort,
• Female users of Winnie are at risk of masculinization side effects, especially when they misuse or abuse their use of Winstrol.

Typically, female users are advised to run cycles consisting of small daily dosages of 5 mg on the lowest side. (P.S: I advise that you never self-medicate, always consult an experienced bodybuilding trainer or a qualified medical doctor before running any AAS cycle)

So IS WINSTROL STEROID PILL GOOD OR BAD for you? You can find out more about it right here.

Anavar:

Anavar or Var (as bodybuilders like to call this AAS) is also a brand name for the oral AAS known as oxandrolone. Var is a mild oral AAS that many bodybuilders take for their cutting cycles.

Similar to Winnie, Var also helps to burn body fat while at the same time promoting lean skeletal muscle mass.

Var is equally renowned for reducing subcutaneous as well as visceral fat (VF).

So if you want to reduce that belly fat, you can consider using Var.

I need to also emphasize at this point that Winnie will equally reduce subcutaneous fat.

However, Winnie may cause an increase in your visceral fat which may leave you with a somewhat bloated physique even though Winstrol stimulates lean skeletal muscle tissue.

Var is able to stimulate the burning of VF because of its potent influence on insulin sensitivity in addition to boosting your triiodothyronine or T3 levels.

Your T3 hormone levels are important when it comes to metabolism and the control of adipose (fat stores) tissue.

But as mentioned earlier, Var is primarily used in cutting cycles, so if you are looking to land skeletal muscle mass gains, this oral AAS is not for you.

If you want muscle mass gains, you can try oral AAS like Dbol and Anadrol (stay tuned for a thread on these steroids).

Nevertheless, Var is a safe, mild oral steroid which makes it very acceptable for use by both male and female bodybuilders.

It's pretty high tolerance levels is why Var is more or less a household name in the world of bodybuilding.

Var may not get my nod for an oral steroid that can boost skeletal muscle mass, but it certainly gets my approval if you are looking for a mild oral steroid that can increase your skeletal muscle strength.

Var comes handy in boosting your skeletal muscle strength, especially when you need to engage in HIIT.

But similar to Winnie, female bodybuilders should start off with small Var dosages. Typically, anywhere from 5 to 10 mg per day should suffice. Once again I advise that you never self-medicate. Consult a qualified bodybuilding trainer or medical personnel before using any AAS and that includes Anavar.

One good thing with female bodybuilders using Var is that because the oral AAS is mild, they are less prone to virilization side effects.

So that's about it. Now in answering the question of which oral AAS is better - Winstrol or Anavar? Well, it's entirely up to you.

But if you want a mild oral AAS that will give you less headache about developing possible masculinization side effects while still cutting your overall body, subcutaneous and visceral fat, then Anavar is what you need.

However, if you want an oral AAS with a primary focus on providing you with lean skeletal muscle tissue while also burning body fat to give you dry, hard, and vascular skeletal muscles, then Winnie is right for you.

Before you decide on which oral steroid to use I advise that you consult a medical doctor, just to ensure that medically you are in an all clear.

Also, seek the invaluable advice of professional bodybuilding trainers who are experienced enough to guide you on your bodybuilding and AAS journey.

For more info on Anavar cycles including: a Var standalone cycle, Var stacks for bulking and cutting, possible side effects, and lots more, check out ANAVAR CYCLE: HOW TO MAXIMIZE YOUR GAINS here.

 

[DoYouEvenLift]

Agreed with most of it until I read this part, lmao:

"However, Winnie may cause an increase in your visceral fat which may leave you with a somewhat bloated physique even though Winstrol stimulates lean skeletal muscle tissue."

Impossible bud. Winny is even dryer than Var and it's an extremely potent DHT derivative that antagonizes estrogen at the receptor. Will Winny burn visceral fat like Var is claimed to do? Indirectly it actually will, but yes Var will directly help burn Visceral fat. Estrogen increases visceral fat. Wet compounds increase visceral fat. Even Tren increases visceral fat in some because it causes you to be more sensitive to the estrogenic effects of the Test you're running. Winny increasing visceral fat? Definitely not lol. It's dryer than Var (and even Tren), and it antagonizes estrogen at the receptor. An increase in visceral fat is out of the question. There's a reason Winstrol is a very popular pre-contest steroid along with Anavar...... because it drys you out and makes you look fuller at the same time. Winstrol definitely doesn't make you look bloated and increase your waist size LMFAO

For females that are in shape, but need to lose a little fat, Would 5mg of Var and Winny work? Obviously with doctors advise.