Winstrol v Anavar - which oral cutting AAS is better?

I weight each time in this little saucer pan they give. I put it on it weighs 2.690 and then i scoop the raw winny on so it hits 2.740 and then scoop the anadrol so it hits 2.790 lol. Then pour in mouth and wash with water.
Just pour it under your tongue and let it set until you cant help but swallow. Most anything i take orally i put it under my tongue. It just a habit ive gotten in. I did it with TUDCA one time. That stuff has to be some of the worst tasting stuff ever. I use oblate pouches to take any meds or supplements that i buy in bulk that taste horrible.
 
I weight each time in this little saucer pan they give. I put it on it weighs 2.690 and then i scoop the raw winny on so it hits 2.740 and then scoop the anadrol so it hits 2.790 lol. Then pour in mouth and wash with water.
You should have a button on the scale that says "Tare".

After you put the little scale pan on it, hit the tare button and it will start you off at 0.000 ;)
 
The only raw that i find tastes gross is aromasin. All the others are sweetlike.

Best deal ever, raw orals like that. 3-6$ for 1-2 grams of an oral usually. Thats great.

Next time will buy more. But that amount lasts me like a cycle or two
I've had a cheap pharma connect for asin. A local lady with breast cancer had a shit load of them and they switched her to letro.

It doesn't hurt to buy extra raws, they can stay good for years if stored properly. I would suggest if you get extra, take a couple cycles out so you don't have to keep opening the bag to get more.

I try to keep my shit sealed up good with minimal opening, just a precaution.
 
I am in my 40s and winny gives me zero issues and i am a former college football player. It really is a person by person thing. I agree however about var, it really has never impressed me. I have tbol, sdrol & halo on deck to try then i will have all the orals tried and i can then stock up on what works for me
Yeah it’s different for everyone, I will say with proper organ support superdril can be solid for about about4 weeks max at 20 for me. I did it 20
2 and a half weeks then pumped up to 4@ and then shit went south real fast. Stomach pains, fainting, the whole 9. Immediately stopped. But tbol and halo have been super solid.
 
Agreed with most of it until I read this part, lmao:

"However, Winnie may cause an increase in your visceral fat which may leave you with a somewhat bloated physique even though Winstrol stimulates lean skeletal muscle tissue."

Impossible bud. Winny is even dryer than Var and it's an extremely potent DHT derivative that antagonizes estrogen at the receptor. Will Winny burn visceral fat like Var is claimed to do? Indirectly it actually will, but yes Var will directly help burn Visceral fat. Estrogen increases visceral fat. Wet compounds increase visceral fat. Even Tren increases visceral fat in some because it causes you to be more sensitive to the estrogenic effects of the Test you're running. Winny increasing visceral fat? Definitely not lol. It's dryer than Var (and even Tren), and it antagonizes estrogen at the receptor. An increase in visceral fat is out of the question. There's a reason Winstrol is a very popular pre-contest steroid along with Anavar...... because it drys you out and makes you look fuller at the same time. Winstrol definitely doesn't make you look bloated and increase your waist size LMFAO
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You called a female "Bud" lol
 
I am in my 40s and winny gives me zero issues and i am a former college football player. It really is a person by person thing. I agree however about var, it really has never impressed me. I have tbol, sdrol & halo on deck to try then i will have all the orals tried and i can then stock up on what works for me
I love tbol, so much lol. Quality tbol ofcourse, I’ve gotten some shitty tbol and it wasn’t the same. But that goes with every option. Superdrol is too hard on my liver but I had pancreatitis so any harsh oral gives me trouble. I recently was on it beginning of contest prep for 3 weeks and I bumped it t0 40 week 3 and never again. Maybe if I kept at at 20 it wouldn’t have been as bad. Halo can’t speak for, I’m using jt for the first time at 20mg pre contest so we’ll see .
 
I love tbol, so much lol. Quality tbol ofcourse, I’ve gotten some shitty tbol and it wasn’t the same. But that goes with every option. Superdrol is too hard on my liver but I had pancreatitis so any harsh oral gives me trouble. I recently was on it beginning of contest prep for 3 weeks and I bumped it t0 40 week 3 and never again. Maybe if I kept at at 20 it wouldn’t have been as bad. Halo can’t speak for, I’m using jt for the first time at 20mg pre contest so we’ll see .
I am ready to try Tbol i have heard good and bad about it but if it works for me i like what it has the potential to do. Fingers crossed.

Sdrol is touchy for sure. I ran it at 30 and its really a lot more than i think i need. I got pretty bad low back pumps from it. I think 20 is the sweet spot if using it for weeks at a time. I will start there on my next cycle and run it for 4 weeks up front.

Halo i was gonna start @ 10 because if it lives up to its reputation i want to easy into it.
 
I am ready to try Tbol i have heard good and bad about it but if it works for me i like what it has the potential to do. Fingers crossed.

Sdrol is touchy for sure. I ran it at 30 and its really a lot more than i think i need. I got pretty bad low back pumps from it. I think 20 is the sweet spot if using it for weeks at a time. I will start there on my next cycle and run it for 4 weeks up front.

Halo i was gonna start @ 10 because if it lives up to its reputation i want to easy into it.
 
I got alpha labs tbol, it’s expensive but pure quality. I agree with the s drol. I only would’ve ran 4 weeks max but I should of hit 30 before going to 40 because that shit wrecked me hard. 20 felt fine but I know if I stayed on for longer it would be been bad. Halo my coach has it at the end of my cycle pre contest so we’ll see how that fares out. I’m a pretty chill person definitely not angry so I’ve never gotten really bad rage. Worse that happens is when on high doses of tren or any strong compound with androgenic sides I get very irritable, that’s about the worst of my sides other than stomach issues.
 
So, it was the common knowledge back when that oral stanozolol caused females to bloat something to do with SHBG. Does this not apply anymore bc I've seen a few females take oral Winny and bloat...the same oral winny their man was on but leaned him out.
 
So, it was the common knowledge back when that oral stanozolol caused females to bloat something to do with SHBG. Does this not apply anymore bc I've seen a few females take oral Winny and bloat...the same oral winny their man was on but leaned him out.
"Something to do with SHBG."

Winstrol doesn't do anything unusual with SHBG, it lowers it dose-dependently, like all AAS.

I doubt the claim that it was "common knowledge 'back in the day'" that Winstrol ever, ever, ever was associated with bloat. Not by anyone knowledgeable on these matters. You may just not have an eye for these body composition effects, or to be able to tease out cause and effect, which is OK.

You've never seen Winny bloat anyone, unless you are confusing bloat with muscle fullness and a dry look.
 
"Something to do with SHBG."

Winstrol doesn't do anything unusual with SHBG, it lowers it dose-dependently, like all AAS.

I doubt the claim that it was "common knowledge 'back in the day'" that Winstrol ever, ever, ever was associated with bloat. Not by anyone knowledgeable on these matters. You may just not have an eye for these body composition effects, or to be able to tease out cause and effect, which is OK.

You've never seen Winny bloat anyone, unless you are confusing bloat with muscle fullness and a dry look.
I have never seen such an effect from this drug.
 
I won't argue with you on the science as there was much information out back 20 years ago that was incorrect and unscientific- probably even made up to FL in the gaps. I was ASKING bc I did read it on boards back then but....I also can't remember exactly what it was- only that it had to do with SHBG.

Telling me what I saw and telling me I don't have an eye and shit like that?
lol I didn't state anything but my experience. I can't argue if that is right or wrong...it's just what I read, what I saw. Have an eye? If you mean I'm not a bodybuilding judge- ok, you got me but I been around gear since 1992 made my living of both my body's aesthetics and physical capabilities in a few different professions and a fairly recent Olympia competitior is a boy of mine that I see weekly. lol of course on boards it's all talk so I could be lying but...who gives a shit?
I was just asking to see if anyone could give me some insight on how this happened: how the bloat that my ex live
-in gf did experience using the same bottle of liquid oral Winny that I was using back 20 years ago that dried me out.


I read up on it before I posted and I did read much information that contradicted the things that I read back then so with 2 sets of information: I asked for some outside input. That's all.

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Hey Guys

I’m posting this for my girlfriend who regularly uses Anavar and or Winstrol alone. From off cycle to on cycle at a dose of 10mg of Winstrol she sees a solid 5lb gain on the scale and looks visibly puffy within a week. She also has experienced the same on 20mg of Anavar daily. She also quickly experiences virilization side effects at low doses. It’s as though she has become much more sensitive to side effects in one year."

That's from another poster on another board. June of 2021.

So idk if my live in gf had some other contributing factor within her biologically or not but the same oral Winny that leaned/dried me out did just like this guy posted. In fact all those years ago at least 20(been with my wife 18)- I searched boards for the answer and that's where I read about the SHBG having something to do with it. I never said it was correct science and I've read the current conflicting info. I just said I read it on alot of boards back then. Hence common knowledge- maybe I should've said " a common belief"?

I did get it from a reputable board source back then and like I said it did dry me out. We were taking it out of the same bottle. So it's impossible that it was a mix up.

For whatever reason it happened.

Any help help or just: "you're wrong. I know it all", "your experience wasn't your experience"...etc..?? Lmao
 
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Winstrol bloat? Never heard, seen or experienced that...

Strombaject 50mg/day and 1000mg/week testosterone E I was flat and dry af. Strong and very aggressive too.
 
If I remember correctly (and I may not) it was something like women have more SHBG(I want to say in the gut) and it has a higher affinity to DHT. I just don't remember exactly how that was translated into ORAL Winny blasted some females.

I'm not even saying it was correct. It's only what I read alot of places 20 years ago.

However, for whatever reason- it happened; hence why I went searching on boards. Like I said; I'm in my 50's and this was 20 ish years ago. I am asking bc I was asked to advise someone on something and I wanted to have all .y ducks in a row before I did so. I wasn't looking for an argument. I was looking for some insight. That's all.
 
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