Winstrol v Anavar - which oral cutting AAS is better?

[Chuck Spears]

Can the joint relief from deca durabolin overpower the joint pain from winstrol?

 

[MrGTO]

And even the liver reacted well to it, because it affects it quite seriously? How long was the course on average?

My liver #s weren’t out of range. I ran it on & off the whole 16wk cycle with test & mast. I used it as a pwo so i only used it on days I lifted. I was doing a PPL heavy and lite so average of 6 days/wk if my schedule allowed some weeks I could only get 4 days in and i did not always use the winny. I have injectable and oral winny. I used it 75/25 inj/oral.

 

[MrGTO]

Dam my joint are on fire everytime. Even joints i didnt even know i had. I am 1 week in at 50 mg preworkout. I guess ill keep using it. But holy cow.

Is winny joint pain an indication of something bad? Can i just push through it? Or it is a sign that something else is happening? As it gets so bad i have to stop a couple reps short. So actually gave to go lighter in weight and more reps. Vs heavy.

I know from what i have read it really drys you out. Im pretty sure that the whole brittle tendon/ligaments thing is bro science but i am not 100% sure so take that with a grain of salt. When i use it i have cotton mouth like a mofo. I cant get enough water during workouts. I sweat profusely anyway so that doesn’t help either. Strength wise it is the best of all the orals for me so far. I still have sdrol & halo to try.

 

[jJjburton]

Can the joint relief from deca durabolin overpower the joint pain from winstrol?

I am running npp right now too. I will let you know. I started winnny 1 week ago at 50 mg 1 hr before i lift. I pin npp and test 2 hrs before i lift. I am running npp at 490 mg a week.i started it 3 days ago. Its not exactly deca, but same compound:

 

[jJjburton]

Can the joint relief from deca durabolin overpower the joint pain from winstrol?

I am running npp right now too. I will let you know. I started winnny 1 week ago at 50 mg 1 hr before i lift. I pin npp and test 2 hrs before i lift. I am running npp at 490 mg a week. Its not exactly deca, but same compound

 

[jJjburton]

I know from what i have read it really drys you out. Im pretty sure that the whole brittle tendon/ligaments thing is bro science but i am not 100% sure so take that with a grain of salt. When i use it i have cotton mouth like a mofo. I cant get enough water during workouts. I sweat profusely anyway so that doesn’t help either. Strength wise it is the best of all the orals for me so far. I still have sdrol & halo to try.

How many minutes/hours before a workout did you take winny for the preworkout effect?

 

[MrGTO]

@jJjburton
Usually its about 30min sublingual for oral and same for injections. Injections usually hit hard and fast so i am on a mission when i go that route. The oral is my own home brew i got for Jet Labs . I use kids ibuprofen and mix in the winny @ 50mg/ml.

 

[MrGTO]

@jJjburton I did add sdrol in when i got it for one workout just to try it @ 30mg/ml along with my winny injection @ 50mg/ml. It was pretty crazy. I felt like i was going to explode thru my skin the pump was amazing. I am not recommending that as something i would do for weeks at a time but it was pretty wild. I had to use some mental restraint because i knew i could hurt myself and it probably not very safe to stack both but i was itching to try the sdrol. I will be running sdrol at the end if my next cycle as long as my bloodwork allows for it.

 

[jJjburton]

@jJjburton
Usually its about 30min sublingual for oral and same for injections. Injections usually hit hard and fast so i am on a mission when i go that route. The oral is my own home brew i got for Jet Labs . I use kids ibuprofen and mix in the winny @ 50mg/ml.

You can sublingual winny? I have raw powder i just dump in mouth and wash down.

I take 1 hr before, so sounds good.

Can you sublingual all orals?

 

[jJjburton]

@jJjburton I did add sdrol in when i got it for one workout just to try it @ 30mg/ml along with my winny injection @ 50mg/ml. It was pretty crazy. I felt like i was going to explode thru my skin the pump was amazing. I am not recommending that as something i would do for weeks at a time but it was pretty wild. I had to use some mental restraint because i knew i could hurt myself and it probably not very safe to stack both but i was itching to try the sdrol. I will be running sdrol at the end if my next cycle as long as my bloodwork allows for it.

I ran injectable superdrol and loved it. Really amazing. Started at 8 mg worked up to 24 mg.

 

[MrGTO]

I ran injectable superdrol and loved it. Really amazing. Started at 8 mg worked up to 24 mg.

i will have to make some of that when i get around to making homebrew. I have the stuff just havent set down and done it. Is it tough to make or did you buy it?

 

[jJjburton]

i will have to make some of that when i get around to making homebrew. I have the stuff just havent set down and done it. Is it tough to make or did you buy it?

I bought from colonial, his is 40 mg/mL. It says theres guac in it.

 

[MrGTO]

You can sublingual winny? I have raw powder i just dump in mouth and wash down.

I take 1 hr before, so sounds good.

Can you sublingual all orals?

I guess you could. I have mine in a oral suspension of kids ibuprofen per JetLabs instructions. I used 5g of winny raw & 100ml of the ibuprofen.

 

[HDH]

You can sublingual winny? I have raw powder i just dump in mouth and wash down.

I take 1 hr before, so sounds good.

Can you sublingual all orals?

I do the same thing with all my orals. I dump them on my tongue but I do my best not to swallow. If I can help it I'd rather skip as much of that first pass as possible.

The raws are pretty fine and don't taste nasty.

Orals are hella cheap like that too.

Do you weigh each time?

I gotta say I do some cheating. I have a little tiny scoop made up that scoops up almost the correct amount each time. I just have to make sure the raws aren't settled when I scoop.

I would say winny for the cut. It's a much better look that var gives.

 

[jJjburton]

I do the same thing with all my orals. I dump them on my tongue but I do my best not to swallow. If I can help it I'd rather skip as much of that first pass as possible.

The raws are pretty fine and don't taste nasty.

Orals are hella cheap like that too.

Do you weigh each time?

I gotta say I do some cheating. I have a little tiny scoop made up that scoops up almost the correct amount each time. I just have to make sure the raws aren't settled when I scoop.

I would say winny for the cut. It's a much better look that var gives.

I weight each time in this little saucer pan they give. I put it on it weighs 2.690 and then i scoop the raw winny on so it hits 2.740 and then scoop the anadrol so it hits 2.790 lol. Then pour in mouth and wash with water.

 

[jJjburton]

I do the same thing with all my orals. I dump them on my tongue but I do my best not to swallow. If I can help it I'd rather skip as much of that first pass as possible.

The raws are pretty fine and don't taste nasty.

Orals are hella cheap like that too.

Do you weigh each time?

I gotta say I do some cheating. I have a little tiny scoop made up that scoops up almost the correct amount each time. I just have to make sure the raws aren't settled when I scoop.

I would say winny for the cut. It's a much better look that var gives.

The only raw that i find tastes gross is aromasin. All the others are sweetlike.

Best deal ever, raw orals like that. 3-6$ for 1-2 grams of an oral usually. Thats great.

Next time will buy more. But that amount lasts me like a cycle or two

 

[jJjburton]

Dam my joint feel like razorblades. After that shoulder workout, and it still feel like that, 10 minutes after.

 

[Harley00]

The op suggested that var increses t3, if thats what var does then what if your optimized on your t3 already , and already at the top of the reference range will var push you hyper?

Whats vars relationship to ft4, is this effected? If it effects t3 then one woukd assume it have to lower ft4 and force your tsh to work harder thus possibly rasing your tsh?

Looking for opinions on this thnx.

 

[Ironman 580]

The op suggested that var increses t3, if thats what var does then what if your optimized on your t3 already , and already at the top of the reference range will var push you hyper?

Whats vars relationship to ft4, is this effected? If it effects t3 then one woukd assume it have to lower ft4 and force your tsh to work harder thus possibly rasing your tsh?

Looking for opinions on this thnx.

Bro u guys are making this whole thing rocket science once again - way overthinking a simple thing as running some Anavar - just hit the gym eat correct and take your gear

 

[Harley00]

Bro u guys are making this whole thing rocket science once again - way overthinking a simple thing as running some Anavar - just hit the gym eat correct and take your gear

Im on full thyroid replacement, i run my thyroid to the top of the reference range. When i take more gear i usally have to rasie my meds, when i lower my gear i need to lower my meds.

This is the first iv read of the effects on t3 on var, so being someone who likes the science of gear so i can take the appropriate dosage of something thats something i like to know.

So yeh bro...id still like to know the effects of var on your thyroid. Is it direct to t3 ? Or t4 or does no one no really. It is important when your on full replacement because one must change there doages to accommodate what there taking.

Im sure i could search the net on this, but since the op said it id like to know more details.