Winstrol v Anavar - which oral cutting AAS is better?

[AlwaysHungry]

True j don't get joint problems on winny either.

 

[Ironman 580]

Has anyone tryed Winstrol oil based? If so what was the reaults as compared to oral? Doses etc???

 

[Habib]

Winstrol doesn't burn fat, it's just an optimal steroid while fat is being burned. It facilitates it well. Winstrol is stronger.

 

[1tank1]

I'm skipping through this thread and haven't read any of the replies but I must point out that there is no such thing as a cutting steroid (winny or var).

 

[Habib]

I'm skipping through this thread and haven't read any of the replies but I must point out that there is no such thing as a cutting steroid (winny or var).

*Trenbolone

 

[Hightower]

Winstrol is a good drug for someone, but not for me. Since on it my ligaments immediately begin to hurt and the feeling that I’m about to tear and of course my liver doesn’t react very well. But Anavar is an excellent drug and it adds strength and muscle stiffness and in general it can be used for a long time.

 

[1tank1]

*Trenbolone

That's not a steroid bro. It's a magical liquid from the fountain of youth lol

Unclassified substance in medical terms rofl

 

[MrGTO]

Has anyone tryed Winstrol oil based? If so what was the reaults as compared to oral? Doses etc???

Thats what i have been using. I love it way more than oral. Its a totally different feel. Pip is real if your sensitive, i am not so i dont care.

 

[Hightower]

That's not a steroid bro. It's a magical liquid from the fountain of youth lol

Unclassified substance in medical terms rofl

This is a hell of a brew, invented by the devil himself. She makes you a beast that has no boundaries and limits

 

[Type-IIx]

Has anyone tryed Winstrol oil based? If so what was the reaults as compared to oral? Doses etc???

Injectable winny is a bad idea bro. It's no different from oral in its effects, is still just as hepatotoxic, it fucking hurts, AND you have to pin like 14 times a week to keep steady blood levels.

 

[1tank1]

Injectable winny is a bad idea bro. It's no different from oral in its effects, is still just as hepatotoxic, it fucking hurts, AND you have to pin like 14 times a week to keep steady blood levels.

All true, but the theory behind injecting it is to avoid 1st bypass metabolism via the liver and get it straight into your bloodstream. Same as inj Dbol and Oxy and any other C17aa.

I'd just pop a pill with all these meds tbh and keep the cycle length short. Couldn't be bothered pinning every day just to try and avoid liver toxicity. Fuck that.

 

[Type-IIx]

All true, but the theory behind injecting it is to avoid 1st bypass metabolism via the liver and get it straight into your bloodstream. Same as inj Dbol and Oxy and any other C17aa.

Peter Bond addressed this here: Injectable Orals

 

[1tank1]

Peter Bond addressed this here: Injectable Orals

That's a theory that's open to debate and the answer will always be inconclusive though bro (IMO).

Pop a 17aa pill which sits in your gut then gets absorbed and metabolised via the liver before getting into the bloodstream VS getting the same drug straight into your bloodstream via injection into muscle tissue or IV and have it circulating around the system almost instantly???

It's a debate that has gone on for decades.

 

[VenomYo]

im gonna say something really controversial but anavar makes retain water. i think i read something about anavar and increased creatine synthesis, that could be why

 

[Type-IIx]

That's a theory that's open to debate and the answer will always be inconclusive though bro (IMO).

Pop a 17aa pill which sits in your gut then gets absorbed and metabolised via the liver before getting into the bloodstream VS getting the same drug straight into your bloodstream via injection into muscle tissue or IV and have it circulating around the system almost instantly???

It's a debate that has gone on for decades.

No there's really no debate bro. You can IV 17AAs and they're still similarly hepatotoxic to the oral route. Again, first pass is a mere "blip."

 

[Type-IIx]

im gonna say something really controversial but anavar makes retain water. i think i read something about anavar and increased creatine synthesis, that could be why

You've reported this with tren and now var. You've got to start looking at your diet brother.

 

[1tank1]

im gonna say something really controversial but anavar makes retain water. i think i read something about anavar and increased creatine synthesis, that could be why

Or maybe coz it's actually Dbol bro.....

 

[1tank1]

No there's really no debate bro. You can IV 17AAs and they're still similarly hepatotoxic to the oral route. Again, first pass is a mere "blip."

You're welcome to your opinion bro and I'm not going to dispute the finer points of whether you are right or wrong but hepatotoxicity is a word that is specifically relative to the liver so if someone is avoiding first bypass metabolism of 17aa via injection they are also reducing the risk of liver toxicity.

That's my belief after many years of having this same debate and I'm satsified with the theory I settled on. Thankfully I don't even use orals any more

 

[Type-IIx]

You're welcome to your opinion bro and I'm not going to dispute the finer points of whether you are right or wrong but hepatotoxicity is a word that is specifically relative to the liver so if someone is avoiding first bypass metabolism of 17aa via injection they are also reducing the risk of liver toxicity.

That's my belief after many years of having this same debate and I'm satsified with the theory I settled on. Thankfully I don't even use orals any more

"opinion..." "finer points..." "belief..." "theory..."

Bro... these terms are used for matters that are open to different viewpoints and subject to interpretation. Peter Bond explained all you need to know succinctly on the referenced thread. There's no opinions in chemistry.

 

[1tank1]

"opinion..." "finer points..." "belief..." "theory..."

Bro... these terms are used for matters that are open to different viewpoints and subject to interpretation. Peter Bond explained all you need to know succinctly on the referenced thread. There's no opinions in chemistry.

This seems to be a very serious topic for you bro and that's okay. Thanks for the link to Peter Bonds thread. I've read it.