Low Libido - TRT Blood Test

[Lifting88]

That your lh fsh is low is normal at trt.

Even when you use hcg your lh and fsh will show low on bloodtest because hcg mimics lh, its not lh

 

[threg0]

My issue is that I am almost without any sperm production about my FSH is too low.
If I cumm so it cumm like a drop of sperm and I think Its the issue of my libido because my sperm is empty.

TRT should improve my libido but my libido is super low almost zero.
:/

 

[JTurbin]

Your DHT is to low. You need DHT for libido. Drop the Finasteride. Try ED injections to increase SHBG and E2 control. AI max 2x0.25 if at all. HCG daily injections 100iu as well as micronized Progesteron caps or tabs orally 2x daily 10-20 mg some take 50mg even 100mg. Very likely to much but check labs and libido.
HCG and Progesteron very Important for libido.
also consider lowering your Test on HCG.
Daily 15mg

 

[VenomYo]

Hi Meso-Rx users

Currently, I am in 150mg testo C a week split in 2 shots of 75mg Monday and Thursday.
I don't use any AI and I was using 350ui HCG 2,5 months ago (I'm bought 10 more to nevermore be without it. It's arriving soon)

I am asking for help to analyze my blood test as I am feeling a really low sex drive. It's affecting my confidence as a man.

My blood test is attached below. As you guys can see, my LH and FSH are ridiculous low (Normal as I'm in TRT w no HCG). I don't know if it's the issue of my super low libido.
My E2 is higher than normal but it's normal as my testo is higher than normal so I believe the ratio is great. Also, I don't feel any sensibility.

My sperm analysis looks a shit since I am with ZERO HCG.
My CK is a bad signal too and it can be about the high-intensity workout or it can be a heart signal.

Could you guys share your knowledge to help me?
I was thinking to give it a try with Proviron+clomid+HCG. Any recommendation to recover my body and libido?

Super thanks!!



My blood test:

FSH 1 IU/L
LH <1 IU/L
Prolactin 215 mIU/L
Oestradiol 238 pmol/L (should be <150) (I don't think it's a problem as my Testo is out of the range too and the ratio is ok. I don't feel any sensibility)

Testo 39.2 nmol/L (6 - 28)
SHBG 19 nmol/L (15-50) (a bit low)
Free Testo 1226 pmol/L (200-600)

Free T4 14.6 pmol/L (9-25)
TSH 1.38 mIU/L (0.4-4)
Free T3 6.1 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)

PSA 0.81 S (<2.51)

Vitamin D 88 nmol/L

Insulin 4 mU/L

DHT 0.7 nmol/L (0.4-2.5) (Using 1mg day Finasteride)

DHEA Sulphate 9.6 umol/L (2.2-12.4)

Insulin-like Growth Factor 29.5 nmol/L (8.2-29)

Growth Hormone 0.2 ug/L (<5)

Cortisol(am) 433 nmol/L (110-550)

Iron 26.3 umol/L (10-30)
Transferrin 2.44 g/L (2.1-3.8)
Ferritin 76 ug/L (30-500)

Vitamin B12 459 pmol/L

Semen Fertility studies:
Days of Ejaculatory Abstinence 6 days (2-7)
Volume 2.7mL (>1.5)
Count 5 x 10^6 / mL (>14)
Motility 2% Progressive Motility
Motility 1% Non-progressive Motility
Motility 97% Non-motile
Morphology 3% normal forms (>3)

Creatinine Kinase CK 813 U/L (<201)

hey. when i injected only twice a week i had no libido, regardless of amount. Once i switched to daily microdoses of test prop my libido came back

 

[JTurbin]

hey. when i injected only twice a week i had no libido, regardless of amount. Once i switched to daily microdoses of test prop my libido came back

Sounds like elevated E2. As well as Test Prop should ideally be injected ED, EOD minimum. So difficult to tell as fluctuations could be a cause as well. Most likely elevated E2 though.
1. What’s your dosage ?
2. How long did it take for your libido to come back?
3. How long have you had it ?
Pay close attention to when he goes if it does go.

Could you provide some details about your meds ?

Also for TRT a longer ester (Enth/Cyp) is taken even for daily Microdosing for less fluctuations/more stable levels.
Don’t know many on TRT with Prop
BUT
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
Lets hope it lasts

 

[VenomYo]

Sounds like elevated E2. As well as Test Prop should ideally be injected ED, EOD minimum. So difficult to tell as fluctuations could be a cause as well. Most likely elevated E2 though.
1. What’s your dosage ?
2. How long did it take for your libido to come back?
3. How long have you had it ?
Pay close attention to when he goes if it does go.

Could you provide some details about your meds ?

Also for TRT a longer ester (Enth/Cyp) is taken even for daily Microdosing for less fluctuations/more stable levels.
Don’t know many on TRT with Prop
BUT
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
Lets hope it lasts

ive done it every which way you can think of, all kinds of injection- frequencies and esters, high and low doses

the only thing that keeps my libido good is daily injections with small doses(15-30mg prop). Stability is the name of the game when it comes to libido, atleast in my case it is

im only mentioning it because someone else could be reading this and wondering why their libido sucks on test. They should dry daily injections.

people think they can control their E2 while doing twice a week injections, but they cant, its almost uncontrollable, even if you control E2 you still have to deal with fluctuating test levels, so its never gonna be a stable experience

im not on trt tho. im blasting 30mg prop ED. and gaining more than i did on 500mg test E twice a week. Long esters are lazy, makes you retain water and makes you peak and dip all over the place with fluctuations. prop is king IMO

 

[JTurbin]

ive done it every which way you can think of, all kinds of injection- frequencies and esters, high and low doses

the only thing that keeps my libido good is daily injections with small doses(15-30mg prop). Stability is the name of the game when it comes to libido, atleast in my case it is

im only mentioning it because someone else could be reading this and wondering why their libido sucks on test. They should dry daily injections.

people think they can control their E2 while doing twice a week injections, but they cant, its almost uncontrollable, even if you control E2 you still have to deal with fluctuating test levels, so its never gonna be a stable experience

im not on trt tho. im blasting 30mg prop ED. and gaining more than i did on 500mg test E twice a week. Long esters are lazy, makes you retain water and makes you peak and dip all over the place with fluctuations. prop is king IMO

 

[JTurbin]

I agree on the E2 being very difficult to control but what really needs to be taken into consideration is your SHBG labs. Low SHBG guys need to inject daily.

High SHBG guys need less frequent injection protocol. Generally 15-30mg (approx 100-200/week seems ideal). I believe strongly your issues with libido are because you being a low SHBG guy. Interestingly the test prop still seems to work as it is still a low dose although the biggest question is how long?

The test prop still causes a higher spike in androgens / E2 as it is a short acting ester which is unfavorable in low SHBG guys this is why long esters are preferred because they provide better stability less fluctuations which is why they raise SHBG because the body is not blasted with androgens as the test prop does.

This is why I am interested to see if your libido stays. Although it could as your dosage is still “low” / within TRT even at 30mg daily.
Keep in mind that propionate ester converts 83% into testosterone and longer ester such as Enanthate and cypionate approx 70% so an approx 10% less meaning that you 210mg weekly of prop is equivalent to 230mg of Cyp/Enth

It makes sense to keep your dosage at 15-20mg daily with the prop ester.
Also as long as the weekly injection is below ~200mg better even below 150mg there shouldn’t be any issues with E2 at these dosages considering that high E2 is not the problem to begin with. The problem is the SHBG. This is way many feel good on high E2 because their SHBG is within range. Also SHBG is cardio protective. E2 pg/mL over 100 becomes interesting depending on the ng/dL level of testosterone(say 1.500). If both are high there doesn’t seem to be a problem apparently.

 

[JTurbin]

Gaining more on 30mg prop daily then 500mg (2x250) weekly also makes sense because of the SHBG issue. Low SHBG means that your hormones are floating around wildly with nowhere to be transported where they are needed. SHBG is needed for transport. The binding of hormones with SHBG making them ineffective is outdated.

I have to disagree on the long esters causing water retention etc as it’s all dosage and injection frequency dependent. I’m positive that if you switch to the same dosage of Enth or cup daily you may actually even feel better as prop at 30mg daily will cause more water retention the 30mg of Enanthate daily. If injected daily the dosage is a more important factor then the ester

 

[JTurbin]

View: https://youtu.be/Aoft44xf6Og


Videos such as these give a good simple understanding how SHBG works

 

[VenomYo]

I agree on the E2 being very difficult to control but what really needs to be taken into consideration is your SHBG labs. Low SHBG guys need to inject daily.

High SHBG guys need less frequent injection protocol. Generally 15-30mg (approx 100-200/week seems ideal). I believe strongly your issues with libido are because you being a low SHBG guy. Interestingly the test prop still seems to work as it is still a low dose although the biggest question is how long?

The test prop still causes a higher spike in androgens / E2 as it is a short acting ester which is unfavorable in low SHBG guys this is why long esters are preferred because they provide better stability less fluctuations which is why they raise SHBG because the body is not blasted with androgens as the test prop does.

This is why I am interested to see if your libido stays. Although it could as your dosage is still “low” / within TRT even at 30mg daily.
Keep in mind that propionate ester converts 83% into testosterone and longer ester such as Enanthate and cypionate approx 70% so an approx 10% less meaning that you 210mg weekly of prop is equivalent to 230mg of Cyp/Enth

It makes sense to keep your dosage at 15-20mg daily with the prop ester.
Also as long as the weekly injection is below ~200mg better even below 150mg there shouldn’t be any issues with E2 at these dosages considering that high E2 is not the problem to begin with. The problem is the SHBG. This is way many feel good on high E2 because their SHBG is within range. Also SHBG is cardio protective. E2 pg/mL over 100 becomes interesting depending on the ng/dL level of testosterone(say 1.500). If both are high there doesn’t seem to be a problem apparently.

Very interesting insight. Me personally, I was never really a fan of Enanthate or cyp. For my personal preference i'd rather go with sustanon if given the choice of long esters, but each to their own!

 

[threg0]

I super appreciate all the comments and I checked the video posted.

I decided to do EOD instead of twice a week.

Do you guys use any AI as for example adex 0.5mg a week while you are between 150-200mg testo week?

Also, I stopped finasteride.

Cheers

 

[Ambitiouslabrat]

I super appreciate all the comments and I checked the video posted.

I decided to do EOD instead of twice a week.

Do you guys use any AI as for example adex 0.5mg a week while you are between 150-200mg testo week?

Also, I stopped finasteride.

Cheers

Did your symptoms get better?