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My German is not good enough to know. Is he saying this is what I take, or is he recommending this to others for a specific purpose?
 
Juicedhead said:
Boom this proves what I was trying to tell @ChaseIrons ! Not all pros use grams and grams of gear in fact most are using as much as markus and that’s a fact chase seems to think they’re all using grams of gear like over 2 grams which just simply isn’t true. Someone with bad genetics way of justifying why they’re not a pro.
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How the f do u really know what he ran?!

Did u watch and measure every ml that went in his ass.or are some type of physic. So many people lie, for generic hype and harm reduction especially.Then u wana take chase like u really know. Do u believe everything u hear?

I’ve heard of female bb that take 1g test plus a shit Ton of tren more than I’ll ever take and people say oh they are just on some Anavar or another non aromatizing compound or 2. My ass.

Ive heard that Ronnie actually ate more food and was able to take more drugs than anyone because he had the constitution of a horse.
 
This is a book recommended for advanced bodybuilder.. No where near Markus level, believe me this guy was on EVERYTHING IN HUGE DOSES..

As for the harm reduction aspect I believe been honest is always best.. I recently met a guy in my local gym he had just started cycling, no other reason then to be a mass monster.. Once I got into the gear side of things and what is needed for certain looks he quit the gym a week later and told me he doesn't want to end up on gear all his life so I believe I saved this guy with honesty.. I tell him to look anywhere remotely near that would require multiple daily injections and orals, training balls to the walls and eating more food than your body can handle..

Chase irons fooled me for a while but I'm definitely back to my original thinking that insulin was used for these transformations
 
laclark89 said:
How the f do u really know what he ran?!

Did u watch and measure every ml that went in his ass.or are some type of physic. So many people lie, for generic hype and harm reduction especially.Then u wana take chase like u really know. Do u believe everything u hear?

I’ve heard of female bb that take 1g test plus a shit Ton of tren more than I’ll ever take and people say oh they are just on some Anavar or another non aromatizing compound or 2. My ass.

Ive heard that Ronnie actually ate more food and was able to take more drugs than anyone because he had the constitution of a horse.
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No I don’t believe everything I hear but I also don’t assume everyone is lying. Dude look at his injection schedule for that cycle he was pinning pretty much everyday already on those doses so you think he was pinning multiple times a day? For how long? Idk man I really doubt that. And I believe that cycle cuz I truly believe I could be 300lbs on that that’s a shit ton of pharma gear think about what you’re saying here you’re saying some dude wrote a book in the 90s and just made up bullshit in it? Bro and he’s German he’s not American yeah in America everyone lies now days. Go back to the 90s people didn’t fucking lie about everything like they do now and go over seas and they lied even less. Also why would he lie? What would he the point? To write a book filled with lies? Why to seem like he’s genetically gifted? Obviously he was look at the dude he doesn’t need to lie about his dosages bro think about it. Don’t be that guy that just accuses everyone of lying about what they’re doing when it comes to their cycles. And didn’t Boston loyd prove to the world it’s not about how much gear you take? And same with chase? Didn’t these guys prove that?
 
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If the information in the book is an accurate reflection—based on what we consensusly know today—no doubt this man was on serious doses, particularly for his era.

Of course, it's just a book, likely with some kind of "disclaimer" about medical advice and so forth... basically considered fiction, right? We take away from it what we want, it's not a non-fiction history or recipe book.

I'm going to put on my "harm-reduction" hat and say: whomever, casual builder to pro, could use books like these—and all the other data currently available—to formulate their own "recipe" for what works to successfully achieve their own goals. Some "recipes" work well, others not so much. Maybe Chase Irons is using the best recipe he can and that's all he'll ever achieve. Maybe he's using the wrong recipe. This method of reasoning can be applied to anyone.

In the end, everones' DNA reacts differently. Each of us has to find and "experiment" to find the winning recipe for our own unique DNA. It's a long and detailed process. This can be said about anything really though, right? However, this is a very complex arena... training, nutrition, recovery, anabolics... many, many critical details.

This man, Markus, obviously found the right recipe for his DNA. Doesn't mean that recipe will work for anyone else. Regardless of what others do or recommend, it's up to each individual to know and discover their own "recipe."

p.s.: I would really like to get a copy of that book in English!
 
Yeah, but some is.... lets call it a little oldfashioned. He recommends up to 400g of protein per day If you are under 100kg and up to 500g If you are more then 100kg.
 
Juicedhead said:
No I don’t believe everything I hear but I also don’t assume everyone is lying. Dude look at his injection schedule for that cycle he was pinning pretty much everyday already on those doses so you think he was pinning multiple times a day? For how long? Idk man I really doubt that. And I believe that cycle cuz I truly believe I could be 300lbs on that that’s a shit ton of pharma gear think about what you’re saying here you’re saying some dude wrote a book in the 90s and just made up bullshit in it? Bro and he’s German he’s not American yeah in America everyone lies now days. Go back to the 90s people didn’t fucking lie about everything like they do now and go over seas and they lied even less. Also why would he lie? What would he the point? To write a book filled with lies? Why to seem like he’s genetically gifted? Obviously he was look at the dude he doesn’t need to lie about his dosages bro think about it. Don’t be that guy that just accuses everyone of lying about what they’re doing when it comes to their cycles. And didn’t Boston loyd prove to the world it’s not about how much gear you take? And same with chase? Didn’t these guys prove that?
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I think somebody fluent in German posted above that these were doses he recommended for advanced bodybuilders, not doses he himself was using.
 
Juicedhead said:
No I don’t believe everything I hear but I also don’t assume everyone is lying. Dude look at his injection schedule for that cycle he was pinning pretty much everyday already on those doses so you think he was pinning multiple times a day? For how long? Idk man I really doubt that. And I believe that cycle cuz I truly believe I could be 300lbs on that that’s a shit ton of pharma gear think about what you’re saying here you’re saying some dude wrote a book in the 90s and just made up bullshit in it? Bro and he’s German he’s not American yeah in America everyone lies now days. Go back to the 90s people didn’t fucking lie about everything like they do now and go over seas and they lied even less. Also why would he lie? What would he the point? To write a book filled with lies? Why to seem like he’s genetically gifted? Obviously he was look at the dude he doesn’t need to lie about his dosages bro think about it. Don’t be that guy that just accuses everyone of lying about what they’re doing when it comes to their cycles. And didn’t Boston loyd prove to the world it’s not about how much gear you take? And same with chase? Didn’t these guys prove that?
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The voice of reason right here.
 
It’s always amusing seeing the guys on the internet who are so confident that every single large person with influence is 100% lying about their doses all the time. Then they accuse reasonable, nuanced, and balanced people of being naive. Not everyone does the same thing guys, There is a middle ground somewhere in here. Lol
 
Juicedhead said:
No I don’t believe everything I hear but I also don’t assume everyone is lying. Dude look at his injection schedule for that cycle he was pinning pretty much everyday already on those doses so you think he was pinning multiple times a day? For how long? Idk man I really doubt that. And I believe that cycle cuz I truly believe I could be 300lbs on that that’s a shit ton of pharma gear think about what you’re saying here you’re saying some dude wrote a book in the 90s and just made up bullshit in it? Bro and he’s German he’s not American yeah in America everyone lies now days. Go back to the 90s people didn’t fucking lie about everything like they do now and go over seas and they lied even less. Also why would he lie? What would he the point? To write a book filled with lies? Why to seem like he’s genetically gifted? Obviously he was look at the dude he doesn’t need to lie about his dosages bro think about it. Don’t be that guy that just accuses everyone of lying about what they’re doing when it comes to their cycles. And didn’t Boston loyd prove to the world it’s not about how much gear you take? And same with chase? Didn’t these guys prove that?
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So u would be Ronnie Colman with those doses lmfao ? I think I’ve seen u post what u take and it’s no baby dose.
 
laclark89 said:
So u would be Ronnie Colman with those doses lmfao ? I think I’ve seen u post what u take and it’s no baby dose.
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Dude im in no way against using high dosages I use high dosages and I think to get really big youre going to have to but I dont think every pro is lying about what they use. Thats all im saying, its just annoying to see it all the time everyone goes oh bullshit thats not what he took hes using grams and grams blah blah when thats not th case. Also just my opionion based off my use and the pros ive talked to and the coaches ive talked to. Most say tren is pushed to 700-1000 and test usually 1500 max.
 
Iam german.... Guys, there is nowhere written "Rühls dosage". It is just a list of some protocolls. There is a protocoll for cutting, a protocoll for bulking and so on. The protocolls are calculated for man heavyer 100kg preparing for competition. It is more about substances that works together, Synthesis and so on.

And from my point of view - completly out of time. Maybe 25years ago the real deal but for today its just crab.
 
VidMc said:
Iam german.... Guys, there is nowhere written "Rühls dosage". It is just a list of some protocolls. There is a protocoll for cutting, a protocoll for bulking and so on. The protocolls are calculated for man heavyer 100kg preparing for competition. It is more about substances that works together, Synthesis and so on.

And from my point of view - completly out of time. Maybe 25years ago the real deal but for today its just crab.
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does it say anything in there about e2 control? I didnt see any AI recommended on there. Cant imagine running that much test without and ai.
 
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