*** Mass Specs on CBL HGH ***

[Carlito]

Post a thread about Jano if you are so anxious to rehash the past. This thread is about CBL the SCAMMER!! Even if you were to assume the test is false, for arguments sake; it doesn't make your UNLYPHOLIZED GH real. You are a fucking SCAMMER, own up to it!!!!

Yea, 14 long years hahahahahaha.

 

[muscle96ss]

Yea, 14 long years hahahahahaha.

So are you saying that your UNLYPHOLIZED GH is legit? That requires a "yes" or "no" answer, not some diversion(you can explain your answer but at least provide the answer).

 

[Carlito]

So are you saying that your UNLYPHOLIZED GH is legit? That requires a "yes" or "no" answer, not some diversion(you can explain your answer but at least provide the answer).

Hahahahaha...bro I would love to keep the entertainment on here but I need to wake up early to do my daily cardio on my AirDyne so have at it and argue with yourself.

I'll check back in a couple of days because I am going be very busy the next few days.

Peace out!

 

[muscle96ss]

Hahahahaha...bro I would love to keep the entertainment on here but I need to wake up early to train on my AirDyne so have at it and argue with yourself.

I'll check back in a couple of days because I am going be very busy the next few days.

Didn't think you had the balls to answer it!!! You easily could have answered that in many less words than your post was.

 

[master.on]

Bro, there is no "failed scheme". The only scheme is yours. Get it through your thick fucking skull, re-bottling unlypholized GH powder is not going to yield an active product. EVERYONE here knows this!!! Its not some special secret I have or some radical viewpoint; its basic science my friend.

In addition, the people that have come forward have not been compensated. And one even received an email from you stating that you had no intention of ever making things right. These are customers you call "VIP customers" that have supported you over the years. In addition, others from your VIP list have come forward and are disappointed in how you handled this whole ordeal. So quit acting like everyone is happy, all is good, and the world is against you.

Lastly, one of your VIP's received an email from you that was sent to all your private clients. Only, like a fucking idiot, you did not CC it and instead sent it so that every person receiving it could see all the other people who it was sent to. What the FUCK?? That is a HUGE security risk!!!!!! Do you really think your customers want you sharing their email address publicly?? Your ENTIRE private client list is now no longer private. Jesus dude, you should write the manual titled, "What Not To Do as A Source!!".

Post a thread about Jano if you are so anxious to rehash the past. This thread is about CBL the SCAMMER!! Even if you were to assume the test is false, for arguments sake; it doesn't make your UNLYPHOLIZED GH real. You are a fucking SCAMMER, own up to it!!!!

Skipping lyophilization doesn't make GH lose its potency
his GH raws were bunk, even before he put that in vials.

 

[Carlito]

Skipping lyophilization doesn't make GH lose its potency
his GH raws were bunk, even before he put that in vials.

Thank you!

 

[master.on]

There's a sure way to clear this out:

Inject 4 mg subcutaneously at once
being such a high dose (4 mg GH = 12 IU), if it's a peptide, it won't raise IGF levels much

Now if it's real GH and not underdosed,

serum GH should rise to about 53 ng/ml exactly 4 hours after injecting
and IGF-1 should rise to about 97.4 ng/ml exactly 24 hours after injecting.

All this is backed by a scientific study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149291818301395

 

[Brolloks]

Skipping lyophilization doesn't make GH lose its potency

Dude, are you for real??? I've always thought that the whole point of lyophilization was to extend the shelf life of fragile substances.

How long can GH raws remain in uncontrolled transit before it degrades when it is already a concern for lyophilized units?

 

[master.on]

Dude, are you for real??? I've always thought that the whole point of lyophilization was to extend the shelf life of fragile substances.

How long can GH raws remain in uncontrolled transit before it degrades when it is already a concern for lyophilized units?

Actually the point of lyophilization is to evaporate the solvent without using heat
(heat degrades GH)

You need a solution to sterile filter GH as UV or radiation sterilization decomposes GH.

 

[mtt]

I wanted to post on this thread so that those involved would receive notifications. Also, just to be clear, the source CBL posts as Carlito on this board.

I just want to begin with these quotes:

Lastly , I live a peaceful and 100% CLEAN life and have no bad intentions, nothing illegal in my possession, I am a law abiding citizen so why don't you guys just let it go and move on?

Did you or your VIP fiends...I mean friends forget to also tell the members on here that I offered full refunds to those who would show me blood work results with low IGF levels? The offer still stands.

Well, I did provide an igf test result after being on 1/3 of a vial CBL's hgh.

I contacted him regarding my test result along with a copy of my original order which totaled $750.

I decided, just out of showing empathy and a good heart, that instead of requesting a full refund which he repeatedly gave his word he would honor, I would accept $450. I felt that even though he should have known better, I believed that he had no ill intent and he really believed he was providing a legitimate product. Just out of sheer goodwill and generosity I wanted to share the loss.

He agreed but said that he was short of money because he had an order seized. That didn't sit well with me because when an order is seized does that suddenly draw funds from his bank account. So much so that he can't come up with $450 that he owes (though it should be $750 if he was true to his word). I mean, when an order is seized doesn't the supplier have some responsibility?

I'm not a source so I don't know but he did offer me various products in lieu of cash. Things like hcg, igf, t500, none of which I use and all peptides which I wouldn't trust from him in the first place. I found it odd that he didn't offer regular gear like Primo, EQ, Deca.... but only his peptides which are the items that are most suspect. It makes me think that they are not selling and he just wants to unload it.

He then said he would send cash along with tracker at the end of the week. This communication took place last Saturday so I was expecting communication on the upcoming Friday. Hearing nothing, I sent him an email last Saturday wanting confirmation that everything was on schedule. I got no reply. I've sent two other emails on Sunday and Monday and both were ignored. I also tried to contact him on Meso which shows he is still active and has on about a day go. It's Tuesday and nothing.

So it appears I was wrong and the board was right. I trusted him because he wasn't some kid and closer to my generation and hopefully had the same old-school value system where a man's word and honor means something. He certainly talked the talked and all his years as a source showed he wasn't going to cheat anybody. My mistakes was that I thought he was an honest businessman because he was an honest person with integrity but he was only honest because it was good business. If he scammed word would get around quickly and he would lose business. Now that he isn't on the board anymore he has no financial incentive to be honest and obviously isn't motivated by good conscious and a sense of honor. Apparently, selling out his soul and honor goes pretty cheap. $450 in this case.

I should have been suspicious when I asked about the results of the test he said he was going to do on his products to ensure it was legit. He told me that there's no point in it now. Really? Why? Well, because he's off the boards and apparently his private customers don't care so he doesn't care if he is providing a legit product.

Once again another low life crook comes and goes in this business. Remember when he told Muscle99 when he repeatedly avoided answering his questions. He said that he only answers to God. LOL. Well, he has to look at himself in the mirror every day and look into his kid's eyes knowing that their father is a thief and a crook. But that's one of the problems with the new generation and people like him. They just have no conscious.

 

[mtt]

From
CC <proteinas@keptprivate.com>
Tu 9. Oct 00:43

To
Me <pell05@tutanota.com>
Re: Update from wutang at AB.

No problem and thank you for reaching out to me first regarding this issue. I already found
someone who is unbiased and anti Jano to test my upcoming GH as I am getting a couple of
vials with the Lr3 and TB500 one for testing and one for me because like I said before I would
know if is real hgh or not by just using it, my hands are numb and locking up now as a I am
tying all from 2ius I pinned last night. It can’t just be from the HIIT cardio I perform 5 days a
week.
Anyway thank you and until then
C


From
CC <proteinas@keptprivate.com>
Tu 30. Oct 15:00

To
Me <pell05@tutanota.com>
Re: Testing update from wutang from AB

On Oct. 9th you wrote "I already found someone who is unbiased and anti
Jano to test my upcoming GH as I am getting a couple of vials with the
Lr3 and TB500 one for testing and one for me." Were you ever able to
find someone to test your gh?


Ok great. I will keep you posted.
I don't think I need to do that anymore.
Thanks
C

 

[janoshik]

I'm sorry to hear that mate.

I'm glad I was able to help removing person like that from the business.

 

[mtt]

I'm sorry to hear that mate.

I'm glad I was able to help removing person like that from the business.

He's gone private and still sourcing. I'm hoping those customers get wind of what kind of person he really is.

 

[Jstone2]

He's gone private and still sourcing. I'm hoping those customers get wind of what kind of person he really is.

Karma gets them all in the end, and a lot of his private clients are on the forums. They will see this, and hopefully jump ship. I think all his posts claiming business is better than ever are bullshit, they were the actions of a desperate man, and not having 450 dollars proves it. How can a source around for over a decade not have a G on hand to take care of a client.

 

[mtt]

Karma gets them all in the end, and a lot of his private clients are on the forums. They will see this, and hopefully jump ship. I think all his posts claiming business is better than ever are bullshit, they were the actions of a desperate man, and not having 450 dollars proves it. How can a source around for over a decade not have a G on hand to take care of a client.

And the fact that he actually owed me $750 but I made the offer just as a gesture of goodwill and believing he had no ill intent to just reimburse me $450. Of course, he should have know better than to think he could just dump bulk gh powder in a vial and it would still be good. And you would think that a responsible source would at least test it out first before putting it out for public consumption knowing he was doing something unconventional. But he still refuses to test it to this day. It's about $65 to get an igf test done on yourself but even that's too much.

I think word will get around that he's a dishonorable crook his consumer base will just shrink to a small uninformed group in his area that don't bother with the net.

 

[AnabolicAF]

CBL has been selling that GH for a while now. Is this the source Chavo runs? Lots of people buy that from him. Don't people do bloods on that forum? What is going on over there?

 

[janoshik]

CBL has been selling that GH for a while now. Is this the source Chavo runs? Lots of people buy that from him. Don't people do bloods on that forum? What is going on over there?

People referred to him as Chavo on the other forum, yeah.

 

[mtt]

CBL has been selling that GH for a while now. Is this the source Chavo runs? Lots of people buy that from him. Don't people do bloods on that forum? What is going on over there?

Yes, Chavo, CBL and Carlito are all one in the same. He's also better know as crook, thief and liar.

Most don't do blood tests. I don't know why, especially when it comes to gh. They say they feel it and it's working. I think it's both a combination of placebo, more commitment to their training and diet, and the rest of the stuff they are on.

I did bloods and, just like Jano's test confirmed, his gh was complete bunk. I've had a baseline igf level established after I hadn't touch any gh in years and I also did it twice -- three months apart. I took a third of a vial for two months and it did nothing, absolutely nothing, to raise my igf levels.

He gave his word that he would give a full refund to anybody who could prove via testing that his gh didn't work for them but when it came to actually making good on his word... turned out to be just another scumbag with no integrity or honor.

Did you or your VIP fiends...I mean friends forget to also tell the members on here that I offered full refunds to those who would show me blood work results with low IGF levels? The offer still stands.