Masteron as a growth promoter

@Type-IIx

What is it with the methyl group added to regular DHT that makes Masteron so much more available to muscle tissues and other tissues where pure DHT is usually not that active ?

Does methylation prevent break down ? How ?
 
@Type-IIx

What is it with the methyl group added to regular DHT that makes Masteron so much more available to muscle tissues and other tissues where pure DHT is usually not that active ?

Does methylation prevent break down ? How ?
I would be interested in his thoughts on this article. It does discuss dht and proviron not affecting muscles there

 
@Type-IIx

What is it with the methyl group added to regular DHT that makes Masteron so much more available to muscle tissues and other tissues where pure DHT is usually not that active ?

Does methylation prevent break down ? How ?

Methylation is usually used so that compounds survive being completely broken down by the liver/stomach
 
Methylation is usually used so that compounds survive being completely broken down by the liver/stomach
That’s when it’s on the 17 position. IE the same place the ester would usually be stuck.

A methyl group is just a carbon with three hydrogens attached and it can be placed on any carbon molecule in the pace of the usual hydrogen.
 
Mast as a growth promoter? No.

People are right it's mainly for cosmetic effect which is kinda flat anyway and some estrogen control while not directly lowering it like ai does.

If you're looking for "cutting" steroid most are better in this category. Winstrol, tren and anavar are significantly stronger and give a better look.

Proviron is shbg killer, most do not need it.

In the end, if you're looking for health stick to testosterone. People are reinventing the wheel too much nowadays and rely on some science and think they know it...

Mast is not a growth promoter and never will be.
 
Mast as a growth promoter? No.

People are right it's mainly for cosmetic effect which is kinda flat anyway and some estrogen control while not directly lowering it like ai does.

If you're looking for "cutting" steroid most are better in this category. Winstrol, tren and anavar are significantly stronger and give a better look.

Proviron is shbg killer, most do not need it.

In the end, if you're looking for health stick to testosterone. People are reinventing the wheel too much nowadays and rely on some science and think they know it...

Mast is not a growth promoter and never will be.

I couldn't care less about growth, I care about DHT being active in tissues for longer than with pure stanolone thanks to the methyl groups attached for increased neural activity and libido.

I don't like how testosterone makes me feel, so yes, I'm reinventing the wheel.

I revived this thread to ask a specific question to @Type-IIx which has nothing to do with Masteron's anabolism.
 
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Mast as a growth promoter? No.

People are right it's mainly for cosmetic effect which is kinda flat anyway and some estrogen control while not directly lowering it like ai does.

If you're looking for "cutting" steroid most are better in this category. Winstrol, tren and anavar are significantly stronger and give a better look.

Proviron is shbg killer, most do not need it.

In the end, if you're looking for health stick to testosterone. People are reinventing the wheel too much nowadays and rely on some science and think they know it...

Mast is not a growth promoter and never will be.
I guess I had a good response from masteron as my primary growth promoter, doesn't damage my bloods like other AAS.
I have ran up to 600mg without altering lipids much or stressing my liver at all.

Testosterone increases my platelets rather than red blood cells. The platelets increasing increases my risks of having a blood clot.

I love you bro but have you tried mast?
 
I guess I had a good response from masteron as my primary growth promoter, doesn't damage my bloods like other AAS.
I have ran up to 600mg without altering lipids much or stressing my liver at all.

Testosterone increases my platelets rather than red blood cells. The platelets increasing increases my risks of having a blood clot.

I love you bro but have you tried mast?

Any more hairloss than on testosterone ?
 
I guess I had a good response from masteron as my primary growth promoter, doesn't damage my bloods like other AAS.
I have ran up to 600mg without altering lipids much or stressing my liver at all.

Testosterone increases my platelets rather than red blood cells. The platelets increasing increases my risks of having a blood clot.

I love you bro but have you tried mast?
I guess we all have our reasons for going alternative route, but the answer to the question of whether mast is a growth promoter is still no.

I can't see it doing much more than being a weaker dht and it lowers shbg freeing up more test while handling some high estro symptoms. Do we really need those properties is totally individual, for me they're counter productive if anything. My shbg is on the lower side anyway, I don't need to kill it.

Recently I have tried mast p at 300mg/w, which is like I mentioned a weak dht, kinda like winstrol but everything is not as pronounced, except side effects are fine. The look it gives is kinda flat if you know what I'm saying.

It's hard to compare because I've done test at 1g and anadrol and stuff like that in the past and I just can't appreciate something weak like masteron, but hey I'm me and you're you, we are different and have different goals at the end of the day.

And the best part is we can disagree and still get along which is cool!

Good luck on your cut btw mate!


@I6JQdr06 not really compared to winstrol or anavar. Somewhat maybe, but my bench went down on it to 405 for some reason, I assume cuz of pissing too much and looking and feeling flat on mast...
 
It's MUCH stronger than pure DHT thanks to the methyl group.

It does everything DHT does just better.
You don't give up do you...

It's like you're offended for some reason.

I don't know these facts and I don't pretend that I have great knowledge in chemistry like our friend @narta says.

How should I call then? A weak steroid sounds better, if it does let's call it that then.

In comparison to anavar let alone winstrol, I feel masteron is just weak. I don't take pure dht and have no reason to.

To end this somewhat irrelevant discussion, I would rather use primobolan which at least is a tried and true steroid that bodybuilders prefer and is considered medically safe.
 
To end this somewhat irrelevant discussion, I would rather use primobolan which at least is a tried and true steroid that bodybuilders prefer and is considered medically safe.
If we want to be scientifically accurate mast and primo are interchangable apart from minor differences. Let's say primo is mast v2.0
@Type-IIx can chime in if he wants
 
You don't give up do you...

It's a debate, why would I ?

It's like you're offended for some reason.

No ... just keeping the discussion going

I don't know these facts and I don't pretend that I have great knowledge in chemistry like our friend @narta says.

So you are better off not contributing

I don't take pure dht and have no reason to.

Why do you even comment then ?

To end this somewhat irrelevant discussion

You don't decide when it ends. I was the one reviving this thread to have @Type-IIx input, not yours.
 
Most people don't have a clear grasp on chemistry and biology and just regurgitate broscience

You know, a few members on Propeciahelp have a great deal of experience with DHT, proviron and masteron, and were able to compare them first-hand.

I had a chat with those people.
Call it broscience if you will, but I won't wait for a randomized double-blind study on DHT vs masteron that will never see the light.
 
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