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MANWHORE

MANWHORE

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Here you go Devil Dogs..

I just found this.. you probably saw
it but maybe some of you have not.. like me

Code: 
http://www.landmarkchem.com/news/show-805.html

M
 
Melting point is a good indication of what a substance can be with a lot of other supporti evidence, but that's about it it.

Here is the problems with melting points - I could hand you a gold bar that would pass chemical reaction tests, weight / density tests, etc - all indicators of gold that tell you this is indeed gold.

If you picked the metal chunk out of the ground, it's most definitely solid gold.
If you set out with the intention to rip someone off, it's plated tungsten.

So melting tests were great indicators, 50 years ago, that you synthed the right product. If someone is trying to counterfit the product, I could meet melt tests and Labmax and still give you only 5% hormone.
 
I don't like LM..

We already see LM to fail while results are great..
and the other way around.. MCT Oil is very popular now.. wonder why..

If I order Test E and I get Test E/Test P mix, I really don't
care because I'm paying $30 for a 10ml vial..
If I am trying to run perfect cycle because
I have my PCT all ready, then I wouldn't count on the ester
and I would be ready to adjust my PCT

How about melting test
with 3 separate blood tests? and results from the product's use?

I look at it this way:

$200 for a 10ml Organon Testosterone
$30 for a 10ml UGL Tesosterone .. You get what you pay for
and I personally think we are getting a better deal
with the UGL..
Doesn't seem like it with alot of labs,
but I will still risk buying UGL.. If I was a BBer..

The Melting Point Test was just
something I figured guys can do easy, with just a $5 thermometer ..
but yes more tests would be needed to make sure..

M
 
I don't like 80 to 85% purity from quality raws test e either, but I'm with you as a life long trt'r - even with fortune 500 benefits, trt is an expensive proposition.

I 100% agree with you - I don't like the numbers for purity, but$$$$ wise I spent a few hundred dollars on test raws a while back, which is one doc visit and one blood test with benefits while doing trt. I still have enough for b and c for probably 2 more years.
 
MANWHORE said:
I don't like LM..

We already see LM to fail while results are great..
and the other way around.. MCT Oil is very popular now.. wonder why..

If I order Test E and I get Test E/Test P mix, I really don't
care because I'm paying $30 for a 10ml vial..
If I am trying to run perfect cycle because
I have my PCT all ready, then I wouldn't count on the ester
and I would be ready to adjust my PCT

How about melting test
with 3 separate blood tests? and results from the product's use?

I look at it this way:

$200 for a 10ml Organon Testosterone
$30 for a 10ml UGL Tesosterone .. You get what you pay for
and I personally think we are getting a better deal
with the UGL..
Doesn't seem like it with alot of labs,
but I will still risk buying UGL.. If I was a BBer..

The Melting Point Test was just
something I figured guys can do easy, with just a $5 thermometer ..
but yes more tests would be needed to make sure..

M
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You mentioned MCT being very popular right now. Do you feel like there are reasons other then it being easy to work with?
 
MANWHORE said:
I don't like LM..

We already see LM to fail while results are great..
and the other way around.. MCT Oil is very popular now.. wonder why..

If I order Test E and I get Test E/Test P mix, I really don't
care because I'm paying $30 for a 10ml vial..
If I am trying to run perfect cycle because
I have my PCT all ready, then I wouldn't count on the ester
and I would be ready to adjust my PCT

How about melting test
with 3 separate blood tests? and results from the product's use?

I look at it this way:

$200 for a 10ml Organon Testosterone
$30 for a 10ml UGL Tesosterone .. You get what you pay for
and I personally think we are getting a better deal
with the UGL..
Doesn't seem like it with alot of labs,
but I will still risk buying UGL.. If I was a BBer..

The Melting Point Test was just
something I figured guys can do easy, with just a $5 thermometer ..
but yes more tests would be needed to make sure..

M
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I didn't realize that there have been situations where labmax has given false negatives and false positives?
 
I have 1 guy I gave Test E to loving it..
I have a few more guys that got my Test E
through a friend and he texed me telling me they love it..

I used it and I felt it fast...
I stopped it to start Prop that failed LM
and I am liking this Prop so much that I am going to
put this new Tren on hold to keep running this Prop..
I never gave Prop a chance, so I am glad I was pretty much forced to use this one batch..

LM is not my thing..
24hr bloods and massspec is nice though

M
 
MANWHORE said:
I have 1 guy I gave Test E to loving it..
I have a few more guys that got my Test E
through a friend and he texed me telling me they love it..

I used it and I felt it fast...
I stopped it to start Prop that failed LM
and I am liking this Prop so much that I am going to
put this new Tren on hold to keep running this Prop..
I never gave Prop a chance, so I am glad I was pretty much forced to use this one batch..

LM is not my thing..
24hr bloods and massspec is nice though

M
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Ill be running test e Deca and Dbol on my next cycle. The Deca I brewed myself. The test and dbol made by a friend. I did do a labmax on the raw deca and it passed. But I will be definitely getting bloods. I want as close is I can get to perfection.
 
Jeep187 said:
I did do a labmax on the raw deca and it passed. .
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The raws should be LMed yes..

I don't like the other stuff inside,
because LM is pretty new and LM still
doesn't know everything it reacts to..

How about Canola Oil?
Is it true that Canola stops or lessens the glow?

These are things I want to know.
Since I spend 30yrs of my life with BBing, I mind as well learn everything I can about it

M
 
If it was 5% purity then your melting point would be outta whack. Basic O-Chem 101 sharp melting points indicate pure products. A purer product will have a sharp melting point meaning a quick transition from solid to liquid. Impure products tend to have wide melting points meaning there is a huge difference temperature wise from when it begins to melt to when it finally reaches a liquid state.

An oven with a meat thermometer is a terrible way to test melting points due to significant figure issues, uneven heating, and being unable to control the increase in the next degree centigrade. A melt temp is a better device.
 
OK I already told you.. let me say it here..

I got the turkey thermometer to 220-225 steady,
then I raised the digital oven temp 10 degrees
and saw it melted at 245-250 but I lost it between that..

The first time I did it, I lost it to
but I was just getting it set up.. It melted very fast

I have alot..
I am going to try again, but I really need
a... something like a raporizer that heats to a steady temp
so I can watch it melt

M
 
Vaporizer sounds good.

I'm addressing the silliness of 5% melting points. Impurities will have a different melting point and that's why you see a broad melting point using a melt temp device.
 
The turkey thermometer went up
so fast from only 10 degrees more.. I know because I
kept opening the door, so it has to go fast... just not sure exact temp

M
 
Accuracy is terrible with those thermometers. There's a reason why they're so cheap. There are thermometers that are accurate within 0.01 degrees and cost 100+

Same reason for scales. There's a difference between a $15 Amazon scale and a chemistry lab scale that costs $1500
 
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