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Melting point
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"maximum"
"until the solution is no longer cloudy"
I think what you heard me say was "You should go straight to the maximum of 80C!" but what I actually meant to say was "You should be careful not to exceed a maximum of 80C, otherwise heat it to whatever ends up being enough to make the solution basically perfectly clear."
I myself should have been more clear for you. Thank you for asking for clarification.
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longstad7282
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Thanks man I got it now
Your right taking test e to the melting point won't stop the pip that your calling a "intrinsic Property". What you most likely talking about is something called carbonic acid. There's plenty of posts about it. Just type it in the search bar..
@1whocares hello what do you think about this way of brewing
Use a 1000ml beaker add BA,BB and Oil ,heating and stiring to 60C,add test cyp powder,heating to about 102℃ melt point
How the hell are you telling people who actually practice brewing that everything they said was wrong, and to make it even worse your telling people who might actually listen to you that because you "heard" that you can make Test Cyp @80°C. Come the F**k on man.
The Melting point of Testosterone Cypionate is 98-102°C=215°F.
We'll just leave it at that because I'm pretty positive you have a lot of free time to argue, but fortunately I don't..smh.
BawlsDeep
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Astartes
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Agree. So much poor information in this thread it makes me cringe. Filtration is the ONLY thing removing bacteria from your solution.
You won’t heat a solution sufficiently to sterilize without destroying your finished product.
Heating can be used to sterilize lab equipment, but ovens are a poor solution. Isopropyl alcohol baths followed by UV-C until used is a method that works well when not in a true sterile environment.
You will NOT create a totally sterile environment at home for lab equipment or vials/stoppers. However, using the methods above is sufficient if your solution has proper BA content and is filtered correctly. (.45 then .22)
(Pssst… .22um isn’t truly “sterile” either… fyi)
BA creates a bacteriostatic solution at levels tolerable to inject. It does _not_ sterilize or kill bacteria directly. (Though can reduce population over time) It prevents them from replicating.
Heat should be used minimally. Only to level of solvency. I never go above body temp, because I prefer solvents as I don’t react poorly to them.
Heat will not overly denature or hurt your hormone at or below melting point for short periods without “hot points” (use a magnetic stirrer)… it _will_ however accelerate oxidization of the solution and some hormones like Tren to varying degrees. Heat is the enemy.
How much viability you lose is quantifiable, but not easily done at home. So no sense in doing so. Hope this helps.
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Astartes
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He is correct. You are wrong my friend.
I can speak in my case. University of Utah educated with Virology emphasis on Microbiology major and Pharmacology minor.
Astartes
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Jano… off hand any base/synthetic oils or solvent oils you would place in the low oxidization category as an example? (Just off hand, please don’t leverage too much time. Purely curiosity based)Thank you. Sorry, I was on phone and looking it back up is a pain.
I'd note that the decomposition in oil and the way they tested it might be different - generally in oil there is not oxidative stress present that's present in atmosphere. Oxygen in air really does a number on number of things.
Good quality oil should actually prevent that kind of damage, some oils even contain natural antioxidants.
On the other hand, shitty oils with high peroxide value will degrade the API even faster.
In this manner, I find synthetic oils to be superior to natural oils.
301 / 303 m/z most likely candidate imo. With bad mass resolution it's hard to tell how it's rounded, but you can play with the hydrogens quite a lot.
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About the gofundme etc... Well, I'd love to, but we're at something like 1000 samples monthly right now - I barely have the time to breathe... Maybe someday
janoshik
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Pretty much any synthetic oil will not have peroxides afaik
Astartes
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Lmao… well you said that. Name drop some common ones you see often used if you would. Thoughts on them?
janoshik
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Eg Miglyols
Astartes
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Lol. You are a good sport Jano, thank you
Come on brother. I mean I agree with a lot of stuff you said, like you will never sterilize gear by heating it before destroying it. That is a silly/ no common sense way to look at sterilization l, as it can only be done through filtration. If we're talking about sterilizing gear. However please tell me you know somebody personally who has gotten a sickness or an infection from gear that was filtered through a .22um filter membrane? Even if you do tell me you know somebody, I'm gonna tell you that's not what it was from. Reason being we both know that an infection and abscess or something else can also happen from something like bad injection techniques. Like not wiping the top of the bottle or who knows what, but bottom line is plenty of things can go wrong, and so therefore it's not always because somebody did not filter it correctly. Keep that in mind.
The other thing I don't agree with unfortunately is your sterilization method, as unless you show me some UVC light I don't know about it's not going to sterilize your equipment or keep it sterile. That needs to be done in an autoclave, like we all know, and i don't need the name the temperature or pressure but not through a UVC sterilizer, unfortunately.
Keep in mind I'm not here to criticize you or tell you you don't know what you're doing as the reason these forums were created and a lot of people forget this is so that we can help each other learn, and not so that we can argue but I see a lot of that going on here
Astartes
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Agree here. Think you misinterpreted that part. Was simply making the point that this is not technically sterile. Guys often use the “sterile” term and really nothing we do is truly sterile.
Agree
Again. Not bringing it to true sterility. UV-C is antiviral and can inhibit some bacterial replication. The 50/50 water isopropyl alcohol does the heavy lifting with bacteria.
Nope. We are good. This is what I call healthy challenge. You need that in Teams. Family. Brotherhoods.
But thank you very much for the reply, i was not expecting. This and just tells me a lot about you. Which I like.
Do You brew?
Astartes
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I do. Got tired of the variability of the labs.
It also appeals to my fastidious nature and interest in amateur chemistry. Honestly the process still fascinates me today.
I can see how guys get caught in creating UGLs. It is easy to fall in to the desire to create an amazing product and the process itself…. While forgetting it isn’t “if” but “when” you will pay the price. (Particularly USA domestic)
Kind of like reloading for shooting.
There is a zen associated with it and a pleasure in using something you created that is better quality than what you could buy.
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klokke23
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I've never seen someone suck Janos dick so hard
No offense man, but Jane has hit the jackpot, he is making a great living while providing a valuable service to the community. He deserves a certain amount of appreciation for enabling the end user to be safe.
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