MIGLYOL® 812 N in EUROPE

[Sampei]

does anyone have any source for MIGLYOL® 812 N in Europe?
it seems is fucking impossible to find one, it's 2 hours that I'm googling around and nothing

 

[HB_22]

does anyone have any source for MIGLYOL® 812 N in Europe?
it seems is fucking impossible to find one, it's 2 hours that I'm googling around and nothing

Kinda easy to source in Germany.

MIGLYOL 812 Hüls Neutralöl 250 ml - Versandapotheke meinPharmaversand - Ihr günstiger Arzneimittelversand

MIGLYOL 812 HUELS NEUTRAL Caesar & Loretz GmbH bei Versandapotheke meinPharmaversand - Ihr günstiger Arzneimittelversand

www.meinpharmaversand.de

 

[Sampei]

Kinda easy to source in Germany.

MIGLYOL 812 Hüls Neutralöl 250 ml - Versandapotheke meinPharmaversand - Ihr günstiger Arzneimittelversand

MIGLYOL 812 HUELS NEUTRAL Caesar & Loretz GmbH bei Versandapotheke meinPharmaversand - Ihr günstiger Arzneimittelversand

www.meinpharmaversand.de

they don't have lab analysis of it, have you tried it?

 

[HB_22]

they don't have lab analysis of it, have you tried it?

Im sure they have but don't have it on their website. You could ask them via email. After all it's a pharmacy, I have no doubt about their quality as german laws are very strict.

 

[Sampei]

Miglyol 812 Hüls Neutralöl - Shop der Apotheke am Theater

Miglyol 812 Hüls Neutralöl bestellen - kurzfristig lieferbar im Shop der Apotheke am Theater in Freiburg.

internet-apotheke-freiburg.de

MIGLYOL 812 Hüls Neutralöl 1 l

<p>Kein gefährlicher Stoff im Sinne der EU-Chemikaliengesetzgebung.</p>

www.bio-apo.de

Found two more places, the FARGON MIG812 is excellent, except the last batch has C12 1% but before it was 0.1% a bit more expensive then CAESAR & LORETZ mig812

I sent them an email asking for analysis

Im sure they have but don't have it on their website. You could ask them via email. After all it's a pharmacy, I have no doubt about their quality as german laws are very strict.

 

[Sampei]

@narta @Spaceman Spiff do you think it's worth to source mig812 instead of general MCT oil like this one: https://shop.es-drei.de/documents/spezifikation/SPEC_S100097_MCT-Öl_Kokosbasis_DE.pdf

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I only use MCT, castor, and GSO. I am not familiar with the other stuff

 

[Sampei]

I only use MCT, castor, and GSO. I am not familiar with the other stuff

mig812 is MCT but it has a specific ratio for what I have understood and it has less content of C12 (below 1%)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

the mct I use is 60/40 c8/c10 but its not migylol.

I havent done much reading on that oil

 

[Sampei]

the mct I use is 60/40 c8/c10 but its not migylol.

I havent done much reading on that oil

can post the place you buy it from? I would like to compare it.
I believe migylol is a patent like creatine creapure, in the end is MCT with more or less a 60/40 ratio, nothing different I believe, maybe just mor strict on the standard of %

 

[bighunanballs]

Miglyol is typically tighter controlled from a qa/qc perspective. Most OTC c8/C10 isolates are not as refined as mig, contain higher moisture/water content and will not hold as much solute in solution as miglyol blends.

Ppl always try to brew higher dose with less BB in mig and when they get pip they blame the mig. It's nothing more than higher/tighter refined MCT (c8/c10 isolate) the literature on miglyol 840 states is "polyethylene glycol" in "nature" meaning it can be used more easily as a solvent to dissolve solute for pharmacuetical purposes. Polyethylene glycol is simply an isolate glycol derived from petroleum, whereas miglyol 840 is a polyethylene glycol isolate derived from MCT.

 

[Sampei]

Miglyol is typically tighter controlled from a qa/q perspective. Most OTC c8/C10 isolates are not as refined as mig, contain higher moisture/water content and will not hold as much solute in solution as miglyol blends.

Ppl always try to brew higher dose with less BB in mig and when they get pip they blame the mig. It's nothing more than higher/tighter refined MCT (c8/c10 isolate) the literature on miglyol 840 states is "polyethylene glycol" in "nature" meaning it can be used more easily as a solvent to dissolve solute for pharmacuetical purposes. Polyethylene glycol is simply an isolate glycol derived from petroleum, whereas miglyol 840 is a polyethylene glycol isolate derived from MCT.

Don't confuse mig840 with mig812

 

[bighunanballs]

Don't confuse mig840 with mig812

Ya I know the diff. They're very similar both are simply c8/c10 isolates. 840 being higher refined than 812 and more hygroscopic. "Semisynthetic triglycerides" semisynthetic in the distilled and isolation aspect

 

[Sampei]

Ya I know the diff. They're very similar both are simply c8/c10 isolates. 840 being higher refined than 812 and more hygroscopic. "Semisynthetic triglycerides" semisynthetic in the distilled and isolation aspect

Yeah mig840 it's like water but the viscosity is too low in my opinion, very easy to leak around out of the muscle etc.

Mig812 is typical MCT but with a stricter quality control for what I have gathered. I'll buy both MCT and mig812 and see if I can feel a difference in anyway or it's the same ahaha quite more expensive the mig812 compared to typical 60/40 MCT

 

[bighunanballs]

quite more expensive the mig812 compared to typical 60/40 MCT

Correct and at standard dosages it's not really worth it to most ppl to spring for mig. Standard food grade MCT ISO c8/C10 works just fine

 

[Sampei]

Correct and at standard dosages it's not really worth it to most ppl to spring for mig. Standard food grade MCT ISO c8/C10 works just fine

I'll buy 1 liter of pH. Eur. MCT c8/c10 and one of mig812 and will do two identical brew. Let's see if I can feel any difference at all.

 

[Sampei]

these are two COA one of miglyol 812 and one of MCT Oil cocunut organic
both excellent but the miglyol 812 is fantastic, % of C12 almost non existent.
Bought 1 liter of mig812 and 500ml of the MCT cocunut organic.
Will report back.

Shops:

mig812

Miglyol 812 Hüls Neutralöl - Shop der Apotheke am Theater

Miglyol 812 Hüls Neutralöl bestellen - kurzfristig lieferbar im Shop der Apotheke am Theater in Freiburg.

internet-apotheke-freiburg.de

MCT OIL

https://www.salandia.de/Sala-MCT-Oel-Neutraloel-BIO-aus-Kokosfett-1-L-1000-ml-Glasflasche
Salandia has castor oil cold pressed as well (cold pressed should last longer then simple refined castor oil)

 

[29trt]

these are two COA one of miglyol 812 and one of MCT Oil cocunut organic
both excellent but the miglyol 812 is fantastic, % of C12 almost non existent.
Bought 1 liter of mig812 and 500ml of the MCT cocunut organic.
Will report back.

Shops:

mig812

Miglyol 812 Hüls Neutralöl - Shop der Apotheke am Theater

Miglyol 812 Hüls Neutralöl bestellen - kurzfristig lieferbar im Shop der Apotheke am Theater in Freiburg.

internet-apotheke-freiburg.de

MCT OIL

https://www.salandia.de/Sala-MCT-Oel-Neutraloel-BIO-aus-Kokosfett-1-L-1000-ml-Glasflasche
Salandia has castor oil cold pressed as well (cold pressed should last longer then simple refined castor oil)

Why did you go with the BIO mct from saladia? It's technically not PH. Eur. As opposed to the not BIO one from them

 

[Sampei]

Why did you go with the BIO mct from saladia? It's technically not PH. Eur. As opposed to the not BIO one from them

Because the COA I have received is excellent and it doesn't really matter if it's pH eur or not, it does matter if you don't have a COA so you have assurance that is still inside the pharma standard but if you got the COA of the not ph.eur you can check if it is inside those standard.


One more reasons, the pH eur of salandie is not all from coconut it comes from palm as well. I don't like that, I have read that MCT oil coming from palm is more prone to give PIP, I could be wrong tho.

So I went for the organic bio one.

Anyway I got many different MCT. Bought miglyol812, bought the MCT bio from salandie, bought the MCT ph euro from S3.

Will see if I can find any difference between those.

 

[jj89]

@Sampei did you ever try any of these?

I was going to order this MCT Öl, 1000 ml, Ph. eur, HS-Code: 1516 2091, Herkunft: Deutschland - LSS-Lab-Supply-Shop

But it sounds like mig 812 might be higher quality