Hey dick-bag...yea you chis 1361. We're talking about SHOULDER PRESSES...for the shoulders!!! Bringing the bar down to ear level works mostly TRICEPS. You sound like your not flexible enough to perform these properly and therefore won't get the most benefit...stick to front presses and lower the bar ALL the way to your chest...if this is painful, watch out, a shoulder injury is on the way! And I'm sorry to have called you names, my girlfriend told me I need to calm down, but hey this is my livelihood and the biggest passion in my life. Anyway be sfe and just realize a pinch, twinge,etc is a sign from your body to watchout...or else.