Minimum effective dose of EQ?

[trenisbest]

I’ve seen a few times that EQ is only really effective at dosages above 300mg.

Curious to hear other experiences since I was thinking of experimenting with EQ for the first time but would have started low, like 300mg Test, and 150mg EQ. But I heard EQ so slow is pointless, which doesn’t make much sense to me since wouldn’t this be similar equipment to 450mg Test (since EQ has same anabolism as test)?

For those that are going to say “why not just run more Test?” I’m planning on increasing all the dosages and run higher Test with E in check via EQ.

 

[BALLISTIC]

I’m planning on increasing all the dosages and run higher Test with E in check via EQ.

It’s not as easy as it sounds. 300 mg EQ is fine on paper, and I respond well to 300 in isolation but context matters.
On 750 mg test, 300 EQ, my estradiol was wrecked. Same outcome on 1 g test, 600 EQ. I simply don’t aromatize much, and EQ amplifies that problem.

This isn’t something you feel out. You need consistent labs, and people forget the most important part....EQ suppression doesn’t stop when you stop injecting. That long half life means the E2 crash lingers well after you pull it.

 

[BigDadd7]

200 test and 150 eq dropped my e2 from 94 to 9. I'm now on 250 test and 100 eq. I will retest after the first. Low dose eq is effective for e2 management for sure.

 

[TheDuderino85]

200 test and 150 eq dropped my e2 from 94 to 9. I'm now on 250 test and 100 eq. I will retest after the first. Low dose eq is effective for e2 management for sure.

Nice. Ive always wondered about some like this for a cruise. How do you like it so far? Gains?

 

[SmallTitsIRL]

I look at it this way, 20mg is effective, but 200mg is much more effective. Just like test, 125mg is effective but 750mg is much more effective

 

[BigDadd7]

Nice. Ive always wondered about some like this for a cruise. How do you like it so far? Gains?

I'm on such a small dose, it's hard to say. I started using it for an ai more than anything. It's much more effective than I expected.

 

[NightBeast666]

I’ve seen a few times that EQ is only really effective at dosages above 300mg.

Curious to hear other experiences since I was thinking of experimenting with EQ for the first time but would have started low, like 300mg Test, and 150mg EQ. But I heard EQ so slow is pointless, which doesn’t make much sense to me since wouldn’t this be similar equipment to 450mg Test (since EQ has same anabolism as test)?

For those that are going to say “why not just run more Test?” I’m planning on increasing all the dosages and run higher Test with E in check via EQ.

Even on a low dosage it will increase your serum oxygen levels. Leading to a better endurance.

On high dosages, it has helped me in 2 ways-
1. It allows me to run a very high dose of Test, all the while making me feel like a God and the entire process seem like a child's play.

2. On a moderately dosed Test (like 525 mgs/week), adding a high dose of EQ (1225 mgs/week) plus supplemental estradiol valerate, it has given me gains that would put 500 mgs Test, 350 mgs Tren a week to shame. And all of that, for just 1 ml of injection volume a day (assuming both the Test and EQ is dosed at 250 mgs/ml), with an excellent mood.

Try and see what ratios/dosages you are comfortable with. It's an excellent compound, is almost never faked, is always available, has 0 pip at 250/300 heck, even 500 mgs/ml concentration. It doesn't wreck your pee pee, neither does it destroy your sleep at any reasonable dosages. What's not to like about it?

 

[Markimus Rex]

I'm on such a small dose, it's hard to say. I started using it for an ai more than anything. It's much more effective than I expected.

can you explain more about your eq as an ai approach, Im doing 200 of test and primo with hcg and my e2 is still high thinking about swapping to eq for e2 control but dont wanna over do it, how long have you been running it and how long did it take for you to notice the ai effects of the eq?

 

[Unclejuice]

Even on a low dosage it will increase your serum oxygen levels. Leading to a better endurance.

On high dosages, it has helped me in 2 ways-
1. It allows me to run a very high dose of Test, all the while making me feel like a God and the entire process seem like a child's play.

2. On a moderately dosed Test (like 525 mgs/week), adding a high dose of EQ (1225 mgs/week) plus supplemental estradiol valerate, it has given me gains that would put 500 mgs Test, 350 mgs Tren a week to shame. And all of that, for just 1 ml of injection volume a day (assuming both the Test and EQ is dosed at 250 mgs/ml), with an excellent mood.

Try and see what ratios/dosages you are comfortable with. It's an excellent compound, is almost never faked, is always available, has 0 pip at 250/300 heck, even 500 mgs/ml concentration. It doesn't wreck your pee pee, neither does it destroy your sleep at any reasonable dosages. What's not to like about it?

How much Estradiol would you inject weekly?

 

[hellerhiwater]

200 test and 150 eq dropped my e2 from 94 to 9. I'm now on 250 test and 100 eq. I will retest after the first. Low dose eq is effective for e2 management for sure.

how did the retest go?

 

[oldgrey]

can you explain more about your eq as an ai approach, Im doing 200 of test and primo with hcg and my e2 is still high thinking about swapping to eq for e2 control but dont wanna over do it, how long have you been running it and how long did it take for you to notice the ai effects of the eq?

200mg test and 200mg primo and your e2 is still high? You sure its not fake primo? Or are you using like 5000iu of hcg lol? If it helps, personally, with 300mg test and about 180-200mg primo my e2 was mid-low 20's. With 300mg test 100mg primo & 100mg eq my e2 is about the same or maybe 3-5 points lower. However, that result with the eq was taken after 4-5 weeks of starting, and I will be doing new labs here in about a week to see. I wouldn't be surprised if it might be a little lower now.

 

[NightBeast666]

How much Estradiol would you inject weekly?

2 mgs. I microdose it everyday, prepare it say at 2 mgs/ml and inject 0.2 ml everyday.

I put it in the same syringe as my other gear.

 

[the_pope]

I’ve seen a few times that EQ is only really effective at dosages above 300mg.

Curious to hear other experiences since I was thinking of experimenting with EQ for the first time but would have started low, like 300mg Test, and 150mg EQ. But I heard EQ so slow is pointless, which doesn’t make much sense to me since wouldn’t this be similar equipment to 450mg Test (since EQ has same anabolism as test)?

For those that are going to say “why not just run more Test?” I’m planning on increasing all the dosages and run higher Test with E in check via EQ.

Any amount of EQ would contribute to anabolism. Obviously, just like pinning 20 mg of test would be negligible, so is 20 mg of EQ.

You mention 150 mg per week, that dose will probably contribute to more gains, but maybe not enough to be noticeable visually at the end of the cycle. If your test dose will be the one bringing most of the anabolic power and your EQ dose is there just to help manage E2 and whatever little gains it can bring, then 150 mg is a fine dose. If you want to notice the gains from the EQ, I would go for at least 300 mg, yeah.

(and take care of not crashing your E2)

 

[malomkarom]

I’ve seen a few times that EQ is only really effective at dosages above 300mg.

Curious to hear other experiences since I was thinking of experimenting with EQ for the first time but would have started low, like 300mg Test, and 150mg EQ. But I heard EQ so slow is pointless, which doesn’t make much sense to me since wouldn’t this be similar equipment to 450mg Test (since EQ has same anabolism as test)?

For those that are going to say “why not just run more Test?” I’m planning on increasing all the dosages and run higher Test with E in check via EQ.

Depends how you react.
To me, 100mg per week was enough to slowly improve cardio, look drier with the AI properties and eat like more. In 10 weeks I was warming up with what was a 185bpm sprint when I began, gained some strength and tissue aswell. I stopped at week 20, cuz drumroll.... half a cc of eq makes for a 20 week run. For building muscle it's aight, somewhat weaker than test but if you push it, it makes you a workhorse.

That was back when I was doing 150-200 test a week, 100-ish eq or deca and some oral at 10mg eod, usually winny or dbol and that was it for a cycle.

 

[BigDadd7]

can you explain more about your eq as an ai approach, Im doing 200 of test and primo with hcg and my e2 is still high thinking about swapping to eq for e2 control but dont wanna over do it, how long have you been running it and how long did it take for you to notice the ai effects of the eq?

EQ and Primo both suppress e2. Bloodwork is your friend here.

 

[BigDadd7]

how did the retest go?

Still low. I upped the test to 400 amd lowered the eq to 90. I think I'm an eq super responder. I felt strong the previous dose. I cant say for certain if it was the eq, but I like the strength gains. I also pop 25-50 of anadrol as a preworkout.

 

[malomkarom]

EQ and Primo both suppress e2. Bloodwork is your friend here.

The switch to EQ in equal doses would lower E2 further for most people.

Sure, do bloodwork, I'm not saying not to, but if it's clearly high and primo doesn't seem to be doing what it does for most of us, Bold most likely will.

Sure no guarantee and they will NEED to do some bloodwork after a while on low dose EQ even, it's a budget friendly option they can try. Just start at a lower dose, EQ is basically letrozole for some, including me. Will never forget the dread I felt on 200 test 300EQ. E2 came back at 1.5 lol