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So how far under a persons house do they own before the frac company says Na it’s ours lol? Serious question...

That is all figured out at the courthouse records with the mineral rights owner and the operating company like Devon, Chesapeake, and so fourth. On the frac side we get hired by the operating company and perform the frac
 
Smart man atleast you got off the platform. The Alberta boys up here are feeling the pain right now with oil prices. Lotta lifted trucks and houses on the market right now over there...

Man I wish it was a smart move but I’m stuck at the house until saudi opens their boarders back up. Been sitting at the house since they closed them back about 4 months ago.

i had a suoervisor way back when I first got into the oil field and he told me to save up a years worth of salary before I buy anything. I did that and never been hurt during a downturn. Plus I didn’t buy material things like that.
 
So how far under a persons house do they own before the frac company says Na it’s ours lol? Serious question...

If you have your mineral rights? From the surface to China. That’s what we used to tell landowners.


(Landman for seven years, title supervisor at a publicly traded company for nine months, project manager for two years)
 
Man I wish it was a smart move but I’m stuck at the house until saudi opens their boarders back up. Been sitting at the house since they closed them back about 4 months ago.

i had a suoervisor way back when I first got into the oil field and he told me to save up a years worth of salary before I buy anything. I did that and never been hurt during a downturn. Plus I didn’t buy material things like that.

Oh man Alberta goes boom bust every few years and ppl lose everything. But its the idiot rig/field workers buying brand new F450's etc with insane financing cant say I feel too sorry. Plus Alberta shat the bed on using their oil money when u compare them to what Norway did with a god damn Trillion dollar soverign fund.
 
Oh man Alberta goes boom bust every few years and ppl lose everything. But its the idiot rig/field workers buying brand new F450's etc with insane financing cant say I feel too sorry. Plus Alberta shat the bed on using their oil money when u compare them to what Norway did with a god damn Trillion dollar soverign fund.

My parent’s neighbor is a pipeliner and he has spent the last two years going absolutely full retard. Bought a new Corvette, built a massive goddamn playground in the back yard for his kids, two (!!) custom treehouses, and his wife has a new Yukon. He genuinely thinks that the pipeline they’re laying will never actually be finished and he’ll be flush forever. Sad. But for now he’s spoiled the shit out of his kids, so I’m sure they’ll end up at the same shrink I go to.
 
My parent’s neighbor is a pipeliner and he has spent the last two years going absolutely full retard. Bought a new Corvette, built a massive goddamn playground in the back yard for his kids, two (!!) custom treehouses, and his wife has a new Yukon. He genuinely thinks that the pipeline they’re laying will never actually be finished and he’ll be flush forever. Sad. But for now he’s spoiled the shit out of his kids, so I’m sure they’ll end up at the same shrink I go to.

LOL fucking got me good at the end. Yeah man I get the easy come easy go mentality, wish I had a time machine for the apartment I rented downtown on the water for 2 years.....fucking full retard.

@MLI gonna wakeup to a shit show like what the hell is going on 15 pages.
 
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So a source being vetted has turned into members squabbling over the safety and security of buying illegal goods over the internet? You people never cease to amaze me.

Back to the point of vetting the source, where are the pics that were mentioned? A crumpled piece of paper can be found anywhere. Use a damn leaf for all I care. Lab pics, brew set up, stock on hand and most importantly, tits and ass.

Ps, don't write meso and date on paper then crumple it, you have to write it on the crumpled paper. We can tell the difference.

I would like to know about the orals as well as that seems to be a overlooked issue for most sources.

We are legion, we are meso, we never forget, we never, you know, the thing.... - Biden
 
The OPSEC discussion has been very informative, I’ve enjoyed reading it, but the thing that concerns me is this -

Where were you all when PPL and Dragons website were compromised? Did you force PPL and Dragon to stop using a website altogether?

Fair is fair. If you all are really concerned about OPSEC, then I’d like to see this same level of scrutiny across the board. Otherwise it just looks like some folks are angry that a group has existed that they’re not a part of and they’re bashing the source as a result of it.

All I see from sources is they come in with an intro and say “I use a burner laptop, TAILS, and multiple layers of security/encryption”

Not once does anyone go on a witch-hunt after that. Nobody did that during the FirePharm thread recently.

Happy vetting everyone
 
The OPSEC discussion has been very informative, I’ve enjoyed reading it, but the thing that concerns me is this -

Where were you all when PPL and Dragons website were compromised? Did you force PPL and Dragon to stop using a website altogether?

Fair is fair. If you all are really concerned about OPSEC, then I’d like to see this same level of scrutiny across the board. Otherwise it just looks like some folks are angry that a group has existed that they’re not a part of and they’re bashing the source as a result of it.

All I see from sources is they come in with an intro and say “I use a burner laptop, TAILS, and multiple layers of security/encryption”

Not once does anyone go on a witch-hunt after that. Nobody did that during the FirePharm thread recently.

Happy vetting everyone

And to add to this. When you force a source or strong arm a source into disclosing his previous forum handle, then you’re disclosing any information he’s ever posted. Nothing gets deleted here.

He could completely separate his identify, use a completely different internet setup in a different state, but when you force out his previous forum handle, you’re inherently connecting everything he’s ever said previously.

Pretty similar IMO
 
And to add to this. When you force a source or strong arm a source into disclosing his previous forum handle, then you’re disclosing any information he’s ever posted. Nothing gets deleted here.

He could completely separate his identify, use a completely different internet setup in a different state, but when you force out his previous forum handle, you’re inherently connecting everything he’s ever said previously.

Pretty similar IMO

Understood
But this situation is pretty unique.

The dude named his lab after his Member Handle.
Then didnt bother to properly hide his name on the Jano reports.... where he used his Member Handle/lab name and posted it.

That's just asking for trouble
 
The OPSEC discussion has been very informative, I’ve enjoyed reading it, but the thing that concerns me is this -

Where were you all when PPL and Dragons website were compromised? Did you force PPL and Dragon to stop using a website altogether?

Fair is fair. If you all are really concerned about OPSEC, then I’d like to see this same level of scrutiny across the board. Otherwise it just looks like some folks are angry that a group has existed that they’re not a part of and they’re bashing the source as a result of it.

All I see from sources is they come in with an intro and say “I use a burner laptop, TAILS, and multiple layers of security/encryption”

Not once does anyone go on a witch-hunt after that. Nobody did that during the FirePharm thread recently.

Happy vetting everyone

this source offered the information that he was part of a discord with other meso members and decided to name his new account after his old account

why would someone be jealous of a private source...especially now that they’re going public?

And to add to this. When you force a source or strong arm a source into disclosing his previous forum handle, then you’re disclosing any information he’s ever posted. Nothing gets deleted here.

He could completely separate his identify, use a completely different internet setup in a different state, but when you force out his previous forum handle, you’re inherently connecting everything he’s ever said previously.

Pretty similar IMO

he named himself after his previous handle and his private customers immediately came here to cheer him on. you’re playing dumb if you don’t understand why it’s bad for a group of people to know a source’s identity regardless of his meso handle

if you read everything that was posted about discord and still say “end to end encryption bro meso and email isn’t safe either!” then there’s no explaining it to you. i’d be interested to know why people using this defense aren’t buying from sources on instagram, facebook, or using gmail though
 
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