MLI (US Domestic)

[Mac11wildcat]

this source offered the information that he was part of a discord with other meso members and decided to name his new account after his old account

why would someone be jealous of a private source...especially now that they’re going public?



he named himself after his previous handle and his private customers immediately came here to cheer him on. you’re playing dumb if you don’t understand why it’s bad for a group of people to know a source’s identity regardless of his meso handle

if you read everything that was posted about discord and still say “end to end encryption bro meso and email isn’t safe either!” then there’s no explaining it to you. i’d be interested to know why people using this defense aren’t buying from sources on instagram, facebook, or using gmail though

His orders are handled the same way they are here; proton to proton. Confused exactly where “identity” is coming into play here either.

the concerns over Discord readily dumping info when requested seems legit, but I’m missing the “knowing who MLI is” and his ordering being unsafe...

 

[Brawny]

Understood
But this situation is pretty unique.

The dude named his lab after his Member Handle.
Then didnt bother to properly hide his name on the Jano reports.... where he used his Member Handle/lab name and posted it.

That's just asking for trouble

this source offered the information that he was part of a discord with other meso members and decided to name his new account after his old account

why would someone be jealous of a private source...especially now that they’re going public?



he named himself after his previous handle and his private customers immediately came here to cheer him on. you’re playing dumb if you don’t understand why it’s bad for a group of people to know a source’s identity regardless of his meso handle

if you read everything that was posted about discord and still say “end to end encryption bro meso and email isn’t safe either!” then there’s no explaining it to you. i’d be interested to know why people using this defense aren’t buying from sources on instagram, facebook, or using gmail though

When you say identity, then you’re speaking of his previous forum handle. This has been an ongoing custom for the source to be asked to disclose his member forum handle. Or they choose to lie about it.

 

[MLI]

I've answered what I think to be the most important question via pm with @Mighty-mouse. It will come here if need be.

I own no horses, they cost alot of money. I would be a cattle guy if I was back at the farm.

OPSEC for my name. I didn't want to rebrand or hide. The blacked out tests weren't an attempt to hide my name. The labels were left on those samples and written out in one of the fields, full transparency.

My customers info( the most important) is deleted constantly.

If the squabbling over discord is my demise, so be it.

I have never logged into discord via pc..only a phone with no sim and a vpn.

I use tor,vpn and proton. Any other tips I would be very open to hear via pm please.

Sorry to summarize, there is just a ton of back and forth.

 

[muscletrain]

His orders are handled the same way they are here; proton to proton. Confused exactly where “identity” is coming into play here either.

the concerns over Discord readily dumping info when requested seems legit, but I’m missing the “knowing who MLI is” and his ordering being unsafe...

MLI hangs in discord exposing him to discords practice of scraping so much meta data. Meaning the source already has a pretty blatant opsec issue. I don't think I need to break down the difference between MLI sticking to email via secure methods and being part of a discord group....basicsllg right off the jump MLI opsec is already poor or compromised Imo. That's my point. We don't care if you and some people created a private discord because there was disagreement with the way Meso is run. This is strictly about source opsec not random members of his boys club he was invited to on discord

 

[MLI]

Really making suspensions for me isn't much different then solutions.

Dbol will go into a solution in just plain vodka with a little heat buy itself until humco is added.

Math, 25mg/mL dbol @ 1000 mL

Would require 25 grams or 25000mg of raw or slightly more for OD.

we will use 20 percent alcohol for round numbers. So I would need 200 mL

The rest is over fill. Approximately 779mL of humco and flavorings.

Since dbol can go into solution with little heat and solvent..I do not motor and pestel it...( anavar, completely different in that step)

I weigh powder, add alcohol, a little heat and spin until in this case with dbol it is in solution. Then add the other ingredients.

All suspensions must be shaken well for more accurate dosing.

I will gladly take this to the post also..

By far the best thing to do would be send them off for testing, which will be done.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

MLI hangs in discord exposing him to discords practice of scraping so much meta data. Meaning the source already has a pretty blatant opsec issue. I don't think I need to break down the difference between MLI sticking to email via secure methods and being part of a discord group....basicsllg right off the jump MLI opsec is already poor or compromised Imo. That's my point. We don't care if you and some people created a private discord because there was disagreement with the way Meso is run. This is strictly about source opsec not random members of his boys club he was invited to on discord

I completely agree and that’s why I’m asking questions. Im no OPSEC pro. Keep hearing “identity” and unsecured email come up and still haven’t seen that defended. The concept of discord collecting and readily releasing data at the drop of a hat is something I think that’s already been established.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

The whole opsec argument seems based around the idea that everyone is using one, singular email without encryption for everything. Meso handle, discord handle, ordering handles. Hell, I have at least 3 different proton emails just for ordering. Seems like this isn't a opsec crisis but a common sense issue. I would definitely hope since mli has been a member for a while and has participated in the vetting of sources that he would be smart enough to know these small details and would go even further to have different devices to so as well. That's not me speaking up for him, he said it himself earlier in the thread. Everything else is common sense.

With that said, still waiting for pics. Meso written on a precrumpled leaf with the date.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

I've answered what I think to be the most important question via pm with @Mighty-mouse. It will come here if need be.

I own no horses, they cost alot of money. I would be a cattle guy if I was back at the farm.

OPSEC for my name. I didn't want to rebrand or hide. The blacked out tests weren't an attempt to hide my name. The labels were left on those samples and written out in one of the fields, full transparency.

My customers info( the most important) is deleted constantly.

If the squabbling over discord is my demise, so be it.

I have never logged into discord via pc..only a phone with no sim and a vpn.

I use tor,vpn and proton. Any other tips I would be very open to hear via pm please.

Sorry to summarize, there is just a ton of back and forth.

I'm not sure I understand
If you weren't trying to hide and shooting doe total transparency,
Then why black out your lab name and hide it/lie a out it in the first place?

If full transparency was your goal... why black it out?

 

[TNotch347]

I'm not sure I understand
If you weren't trying to hide and shooting doe total transparency,
Then why black out your lab name and hide it/lie a out it in the first place?

If full transparency was your goal... why black it out?

@MLI this is a fair question cause I don’t really understand what you we’re trying to accomplish with the blackouts either? Although @Silentlemon1011 not sure why this is a big deal? What flag is thrown because of it? I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know so don’t beat me down lol.. I don’t wanna argue over stupid shit because I’ve used this guy.. trying my best not to eat a bag of dicks..

 

[lifter6973]

I think you nailed it brah- some of these peeps are salty and melting because they weren't included in the secret group
Others are just doing what they do with any source- questioning anything and holding accountable
I can see both sides but I can see some of these clowns crying in their Zimas right now saying, "why can't I be in that discord?"
and btw to the faggots out there- I have not used MLI so blow me- I dont endorse any source, period

The OPSEC discussion has been very informative, I’ve enjoyed reading it, but the thing that concerns me is this -

Where were you all when PPL and Dragons website were compromised? Did you force PPL and Dragon to stop using a website altogether?

Fair is fair. If you all are really concerned about OPSEC, then I’d like to see this same level of scrutiny across the board. Otherwise it just looks like some folks are angry that a group has existed that they’re not a part of and they’re bashing the source as a result of it.

All I see from sources is they come in with an intro and say “I use a burner laptop, TAILS, and multiple layers of security/encryption”

Not once does anyone go on a witch-hunt after that. Nobody did that during the FirePharm thread recently.

Happy vetting everyone

 

[TX_Hempknight]

@MLI this is a fair question cause I don’t really understand what you we’re trying to accomplish with the blackouts either? Although @Silentlemon1011 not sure why this is a big deal? What flag is thrown because of it? I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know so don’t beat me down lol.. I don’t wanna argue over stupid shit because I’ve used this guy.. trying my best not to eat a bag of dicks..

You will eat and you will enjoy. Lmao.

I think knowing what I know about meso, I would have used a different name and logo.

 

[TNotch347]

You will eat and you will enjoy. Lmao.

I think knowing what I know about meso, I would have used a different name and logo.

Well.. get the rebrand going.. round 2.

 

[MLI]

I thought about coming here for about three months to offer the community clean, tested gear. With the opsec talk, most of which is likely a true concern, I have come to the conclusion to sink this ship.

I would never wish loss of freedom on anyone or take myself away from my loved ones.

With that being said, good vetting. Thanks for the opsec lesson and good riddance.

 

[Oldschool]

I thought about coming here for about three months to offer the community clean, tested gear. With the opsec talk, most of which is likely a true concern, I have come to the conclusion to sink this ship.

I would never wish loss of freedom on anyone or take myself away from my loved ones.

With that being said, good vetting. Thanks for the opsec lesson and good riddance.

Smart move.

 

[MLI]

And to add, there will be no sourcing. This account will not be logged back into after right now.

 

[4Figgy]

Well that was fast

 

[MLI]

Well that was fast

Many said to stick it out, not worth it. I came here with a different mindset than I am leaving with. I knew it would be rough... it's all good. Failure is part of growth.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

So... MLI is g2g?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

So... MLI is g2g?

Yes

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Yes

Sweet! i only read the first post and am going to place my order now. Hope nothing crazy has happened since then.

Keeping my fingers crossed. Will update with TA, bonerz and feelz reports ASAP!