i will give you a little about me first then explain why i made the post.first off, i am 48 yrs old and have had back surgery couple years ago, i got to the point where i felt like shit most days, so a friend of mine turned me on to cyp for trt. i felt like a different person! so i done a little research and ordered some Dragon Pharma 250, i usually pin 2ml every 7 days. with this i feel great, eat everything coming and going, not to mention hard ons every time time the wind blows. my wife has gotten me usp whatson from the doc office where she works, same effect. i have been buck 50 most of my life, so i decided to do little more research into bulking and working out, getting into shape. so i had made an order from ML,it didnt seem as good as the dragon or Watson but i certainly felt it, i was taking aminos, creatine and protein shake, steak, eggs, chicken etc. every day. i had a little routine going. in about three months im at 190lbs feel GREAT! i ran upon MESO-RX one day doing research and joined, i fig most of you was alot more experienced in what i wanted to do than I, anyway i have been off my routine for couple months and made my ML order again, which they have a min order of $150 i think, it works out that you have to order 3-10ml bottles to fulfill min order. my brother does same thing as i do, when he pins cyp, he gets bout same results and effect as i do. when this order arrived, it took alot longer than normal. so as i pinned my first 2ml of Monster300, it normally takes about 24 -48 hrs before i really feel it. so i waited, 2days....3days.....4days.....5days...6days so i said shit and pinned 2ml more. waited same amout of time, had not spoken to my brother and he called me and said , uh do you feel anything from that cyp yet, NO! so after 3 weeks and an empty bottle, neither of us felt anything! so how would you take it? i KNOW what test feels like, and it wast this. so now i have an order coming from LMC. the way i see it is, the only way to know what you got is to make it yourself. i appreciate help and comments from everyone, thats how you learn, i just wanted to share my ML experience so someone else didnt get ripped off like i KNOW i did.