Morning blood sugar is 147?

[Juicedhead]

Hey guys so I wanted to start watching my blood sugar levels since I’ve been on gh for quite some time now I’d say a few months anyway. I was on 8iu and have been down to 4iu for the past couple weeks. So I took my blood sugar this morning after no food for 5-6 hours and it’s 147. Should I be considered? I know gh can cause high blood sugars but how high? Also I ate like shit yesterday a lot of high carb/sugar meals. Last time I have blood work done when they checked my A1C they said my A1C was perfect and blood sugar was normal..
Edit: I’m also using 12.5mg injectable mk677 every morning but I haven’t taken it yet today.
Thanks

 

[Dead]

I heard mk is really bad for this.

Best way to approach stop everything

2 weeks from now run only gh and see where numbers end up

Then throw in mk and see what they do.

That would scare the shit out of me and I’d be off immediately

 

[M@NU]

following your last few posts i would suggest to maybe take a break from everything and just TRT for 8-12 weeks.
You are switching your compounds like others switch their underwear and blast everything you can find.
and MKs halflife is 24h, so it is still in your system if you didnt take it that morning. You are missing basics

 

[Juicedhead]

following your last few posts i would suggest to maybe take a break from everything and just TRT for 8-12 weeks.
You are switching your compounds like others switch their underwear and blast everything you can find.
and MKs halflife is 24h, so it is still in your system if you didnt take it that morning. You are missing basics

No I was just off for 6 months. I got back on about 6 weeks ago. I originally had tren in but switched it to ment cuz the sides. And I originally had dbol and var but dropped them after a couple weeks. My gear is just test, primo, ment. Besides switching compounds during a cycle has absolutely nothing to do with blood sugar bro. Appreciate your post. I had about 100g carbs right before bed and I woke up around 3 and ate half a bag of Cheetos but I don’t think that would matter since it was about 6 hours before testing ?

 

[NBE]

No I was just off for 6 months. I got back on about 6 weeks ago. I originally had tren in but switched it to ment cuz the sides. And I originally had dbol and var but dropped them after a couple weeks. My gear is just test, primo, ment. Besides switching compounds during a cycle has absolutely nothing to do with blood sugar bro. Appreciate your post. I had about 100g carbs right before bed and I woke up around 3 and ate half a bag of Cheetos but I don’t think that would matter since it was about 6 hours before testing ?

Your right it shouldn’t matter 6hrs prior, but it does because your insulin resistant

If your not willing to get off gear for a bit at least add 1g of berberine

 

[M@NU]

drop MK, its side effect profile sucks compared to HGH.
use Metformin or as suggested Berberine.. or insulin but i would try the first two first.
stop eating crap

 

[Juicedhead]

I tested last night after 1.5hr after post training meal it was 112. How the fuck would it be 147 6 hours after eating? Makes no sense. I just tested it was 107 and I just ate meal one and I’m going to test in 2 hrs

 

[Juicedhead]

drop MK, its side effect profile sucks compared to HGH.
use Metformin or as suggested Berberine.. or insulin but i would try the first two first.
stop eating crap

It’s probably the MK mixed with poor diet cuz I went off the rails yesterday with food I probably put down 6k and it wasent all clean I even had like 2 dr peppers and pizza and Kit Kat bars and shit

 

[Juicedhead]

Your right it shouldn’t matter 6hrs prior, but it does because your insulin resistant

If your not willing to get off gear for a bit at least add 1g of berberine

Maybe if I clean up my diet cuz I don’t eat very clean and with my job all summer I was living on fast food drinking pop everyday it was terrible

 

[eery]

Maybe if I clean up my diet cuz I don’t eat very clean and with my job all summer I was living on fast food drinking pop everyday it was terrible

yeah.. dont eat like an asshole. No wonder your blood sugar is that high. That "fasted blood sugar" isnt even fasted when its 6 hours after eating a bag of freaking cheetos, and in the middle of the night? Bro what the fuck are you thinking.. Your whole setup is like a recipe for insulin resistance.

 

[MFAAS]

I tested last night after 1.5hr after post training meal it was 112. How the fuck would it be 147 6 hours after eating? Makes no sense. I just tested it was 107 and I just ate meal one and I’m going to test in 2 hrs

Training increases glucose disposal drastically. It allows the glucose to get stored in your muscles as glycogen, as the GLUT4 transporter moves to the surface of your fat and muscle cells to snatch up glucose from your blood.

So a post training meal is waaaay different than eating 100g carbs, sleeping, eating half a bag of cheetohs, then sleeping some more. Not even close to comparable.

BTW GLUT4 remains at the surface of the cell for around 4 hours after training. That is why exercise improves insulin sensitivity, insulin basicslly acts like a key,, and GLUT4 is the lock. Insulin binds to GLUT4, enabling the cells to soak up glucose and other nutrients. This is why post workout nutrition is so awesome.

Edit: and this whole mechanism of action is also perhaps why I believe @Type-IIx recently recommended training 4 hours after HGH dosing..? Or am I misremembering? Do correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Juicedhead]

yeah.. dont eat like an asshole. No wonder your blood sugar is that high. That "fasted blood sugar" isnt even fasted when its 6 hours after eating a bag of freaking cheetos, and in the middle of the night? Bro what the fuck are you thinking.. Your whole setup is like a recipe for insulin resistance.

Bro I struggled with alcoholism for many years and when I finally got sober I just turned to food and made that my addiction. It’s tough but I have cleaned it up before and I do feel a lot better I just enjoy food a lot haha

 

[Juicedhead]

Ok so I’ve been checking it though out the day and im showing some insulin resistance. Ex. 3 hours after meal I’m supposed to be 120-140 range and I’m showing 147.. I’m basically insulin resistant right now. That can be caused by poor diet? So just cut out sugars?

 

[Juicedhead]

Training increases glucose disposal drastically. It allows the glucose to get stored in your muscles as glycogen, as the GLUT4 transporter moves to the surface of your fat and muscle cells to snatch up glucose from your blood.

So a post training meal is waaaay different than eating 100g carbs, sleeping, eating half a bag of cheetohs, then sleeping some more. Not even close to comparable.

BTW GLUT4 remains at the surface of the cell for around 4 hours after training. That is why exercise improves insulin sensitivity, insulin basicslly acts like a key,, and GLUT4 is the lock. Insulin binds to GLUT4, enabling the cells to soak up glucose and other nutrients. This is why post workout nutrition is so awesome.

Edit: and this whole mechanism of action is also perhaps why I believe @Type-IIx recently recommended training 4 hours after HGH dosing..? Or am I misremembering? Do correct me if I am wrong.

Yea makes sense. I was reading about GLUT4 being why the anabolic window exists. Bro I’m really glad I decided to look into starting insulin for weak body parts or I would’ve never got this monitor and would have not known I’m insulin resistant. It’s weird cuz I’m huge man my gains have been insane this cycle I look like a fucking pro bodybuilder In the gym so how the fuck am I insulin resistant? It’s gotta be my poor diet high sugar diet. Man I really didn’t think anything of it. I will have to keep monitoring to
Try and get a baseline. I’m going to not eat at all during the night tonight and see cuz I usually eat a bag of Cheetos or Doritos in my sleep but tonight I won’t and start being more aware of what I’m eating I’m 30 now not 20 so I guess my body can’t eat like that anymore even tho I’m ripped it’s probably cuz the gear and gh..

 

[Type-IIx]

Training increases glucose disposal drastically. It allows the glucose to get stored in your muscles as glycogen, as the GLUT4 transporter moves to the surface of your fat and muscle cells to snatch up glucose from your blood.

So a post training meal is waaaay different than eating 100g carbs, sleeping, eating half a bag of cheetohs, then sleeping some more. Not even close to comparable.

BTW GLUT4 remains at the surface of the cell for around 4 hours after training. That is why exercise improves insulin sensitivity, insulin basicslly acts like a key,, and GLUT4 is the lock. Insulin binds to GLUT4, enabling the cells to soak up glucose and other nutrients. This is why post workout nutrition is so awesome.

Edit: and this whole mechanism of action is also perhaps why I believe @Type-IIx recently recommended training 4 hours after HGH dosing..? Or am I misremembering? Do correct me if I am wrong.

I recommend for lipolysis if you're on rhGH, to do your bolus (a single bolus, going for maximal peak GH rather than multiple administrations) 2-3 hr pre-workout within 1-2 hr of a meal ideally (as insulin resistance begins after 1-2 hr post-bolus), such that post-absorptive or post-prandial admin. occurs though the user may also eat within 1-2 hr (to be safer within 1 hr, though what is preferred is a meal just before the bolus), and then post-workout (indeed when GLUT4 has migrated to the cell membrane) to eat after a 1-1.5 hr session such that your subsequent meal (post-bolus) is as close to 4 hr post-administration as possible. This solves several problems, it is at this time when the insulin resistance induced by GH is at its theoretical nadir due to the GLUT4-mediated mechanism and this also maintains homeostasis with the post-meal drop in circulating FFAs, provided for the typical 4-5 meals daily in the population.

 

[Juicedhead]

I recommend for lipolysis if you're on rhGH, to do your bolus (a single bolus, going for maximal peak GH rather than multiple administrations) 2-3 hr pre-workout within 1-2 hr of a meal ideally (as insulin resistance begins after 1-2 hr post-bolus), such that post-absorptive or post-prandial admin. occurs though the user may also eat within 1-2 hr (to be safer within 1 hr, though what is preferred is a meal just before the bolus), and then post-workout (indeed when GLUT4 has migrated to the cell membrane) to eat after a 1-1.5 hr session such that your subsequent meal (post-bolus) is as close to 4 hr post-administration as possible. This solves several problems, it is at this time when the insulin resistance induced by GH is at its theoretical nadir due to the GLUT4-mediated mechanism and this also maintains homeostasis with the post-meal drop in circulating FFAs, provided for the typical 4-5 meals daily in the population.

Man idk what all that means lol I wish u would word it for the average guy like myself

 

[Type-IIx]

Man idk what all that means lol I wish u would word it for the average guy like myself

Does this post clarify enough? A GH fat loss (rhGH lipolysis) protocol that is science-based

If the title post on that thread is unclear, I will rework it so it's more clear.

Also, to your original question, I'd cut out the MK and also only view my post-workout blood glucose as the absolute lowest it gets in addition to AM after fasting 8 hr for the purpose of logging your low point ("nadir") values.

I'd throw away a morning reading as useless as taken under these conditions (waking up early AM to eat Fritos).

There are methods for improving insulin sensitivity and glucose transport besides slin (it's like taking a jackhammer to a nail).

 

[Juicedhead]

Does this post clarify enough? A GH fat loss (rhGH lipolysis) protocol that is science-based

If the title post on that thread is unclear, I will rework it so it's more clear.

Also, to your original question, I'd cut out the MK and also only view my post-workout blood glucose as the absolute lowest it gets in addition to AM after fasting 8 hr for the purpose of logging your low point ("nadir") values.

I'd throw away a morning reading as useless as taken under these conditions (waking up early AM to eat Fritos).

There are methods for improving insulin sensitivity and glucose transport besides slin (it's like taking a jackhammer to a nail).

Yea so I mean my meals are like 100grams carbs so I’m sure it’s normal to be a little higher then normal when testing after. Today upon waking after 8 hrs I was 107. And then 1 he after 100g carb Meal I was 212 and 3 hr after 100g carb meal I was 147. So I’m just a few points higher then normal on gh and mk.. so I might not really be that bad off cuz I’m camparing myself to a regular person eating normal amounts of food not a 240lb bodybuilder eating 4-5k cals a day. And yea I eat junk I like Cheetos and shit like that and I eat it during the night cuz I’m half asleep and can’t stop myself lol I think I’m going to just see how my numbers play out after fasting all night and see what my morning number is on average and then maybe throw in insulin on leg and chest day post training. And right now I just use 4iu Genotropin before bed. I’m not really looking for fat loss more so anabolism from the gh since I’m already really lean. I figured shooting 10iu humalog after training on leg day was what I wanted to start using insulin for. That’s the whole reason I got a monitor was to be able to see everything while using the slin.

 

[MFAAS]

Yea makes sense. I was reading about GLUT4 being why the anabolic window exists. Bro I’m really glad I decided to look into starting insulin for weak body parts or I would’ve never got this monitor and would have not known I’m insulin resistant. It’s weird cuz I’m huge man my gains have been insane this cycle I look like a fucking pro bodybuilder In the gym so how the fuck am I insulin resistant? It’s gotta be my poor diet high sugar diet. Man I really didn’t think anything of it. I will have to keep monitoring to
Try and get a baseline. I’m going to not eat at all during the night tonight and see cuz I usually eat a bag of Cheetos or Doritos in my sleep but tonight I won’t and start being more aware of what I’m eating I’m 30 now not 20 so I guess my body can’t eat like that anymore even tho I’m ripped it’s probably cuz the gear and gh..

Well too much HGH alone could cause insulin resistance. 8 IU is a lot, and yeah if you were drinking soda and eating crap then that'll do it pretty fast.

To stop yourself from eating cheetohs and shit, just stop buying it. If it isn't in the house then it won't find its way in your mouth lmao

Basically:

1. Eat your meal 1-2 hours before, orwithin 1 hour after pinning your full HGH dose for the day.

2. Workout 2-3 hours after HGH pin

3. Eat post workout meal within an hour, maybe 90 mins after you finish your workout. Together this should cause your post workout meal to be approximately 4 hours after your HGH pin.

The timing of those 3 things together is what @Type-IIx argues is best for fat loss and to reduce insulin resistance, which I agree with as well. The post he linked is very good, definitely worth digging into and digesting. Look shit up if it is above your head! Always fun and valuable to learn new things.

I would think a little pre workout carbs and protein would be fine too. Like a banana and some whey with milk 45 mins pre.

 

[Juicedhead]

Well too much HGH alone could cause insulin resistance. 8 IU is a lot, and yeah if you were drinking soda and eating crap then that'll do it pretty fast.

To stop yourself from eating cheetohs and shit, just stop buying it. If it isn't in the house then it won't find its way in your mouth lmao

Basically:

1. Eat your meal 1-2 hours before, orwithin 1 hour after pinning your full HGH dose for the day.

2. Workout 2-3 hours after HGH pin

3. Eat post workout meal within an hour, maybe 90 mins after you finish your workout. Together this should cause your post workout meal to be approximately 4 hours after your HGH pin.

The timing of those 3 things together is what @Type-IIx argues is best for fat loss and to reduce insulin resistance, which I agree with as well. The post he linked is very good, definitely worth digging into and digesting. Look shit up if it is above your head! Always fun and valuable to learn new things.

I would think a little pre workout carbs and protein would be fine too. Like a banana and some whey with milk 45 mins pre.

Ok when its worded like that it makes sense. to take full advantage of the GLUT4 after the gh is already in the system. yea if i dont buy shit I dont eat it but with the holidays all everything ive been off a diet haha So if I wanted to use inslulin i would shoot post training?