Ghoul
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What's your alternate approach to preventing hair loss? A condition the vast majority of men suffer from, natty or not.
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What's your alternate approach to preventing hair loss? A condition the vast majority of men suffer from, natty or not.
kosp
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First the basics (sleep, diet, exercise, stress...) then take care of your skin and scalp, use coconut oil weekly, have it cut short and clean...
If it has to happen to you, then so be it. Be a good man, have good body and good financials.
Ghoul
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You speak from a position of deep ignorance. Sleep, diet (aside from malnutrition) exercise and stress are not significant causes of permanent hair loss.
While the sentiment of "compensate in other ways that offset your balding" sounds really nice in theory, it has little bearing in real life. Anyone advocating against the only two effective, FDA approved treatments for Androgenic Alopecia on baseless or exaggerated fears is setting men up for needless suffering later in life, both in terms of self esteem, and in the very real way society perceives and treats men with hair loss.
The psychological consequences of androgenetic alopecia: A systematic review - PMC
Androgenetic alopecia is the most common cause of hair loss in both males and females. In a society that places significant value on hair and associates it with attractiveness, a lack there of can have damaging psychological consequences. The ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
kosp
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My father got bald in his late 20s, he was already with my mother and she didn't care at all, so neither he did. Never took a drug, never thought much about it, he is happy and has a good life.You speak from a position of deep ignorance. Sleep, diet (aside from malnutrition) exercise and stress are not significant causes of permanent hair loss.
While the sentiment of "compensate in other ways that offset your balding" sounds really nice in theory, it has little bearing in real life. Anyone advocating against the only two effective, FDA approved treatments for Androgenic Alopecia on baseless or exaggerated fears is setting men up for needless suffering later in life, both in terms of self esteem, and in the very real way society perceives and treats men with hair loss.
The psychological consequences of androgenetic alopecia: A systematic review - PMC
Androgenetic alopecia is the most common cause of hair loss in both males and females. In a society that places significant value on hair and associates it with attractiveness, a lack there of can have damaging psychological consequences. The ...
secondlives
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You don't have to come off, test alone is relatively benign at the levels you're testing at when compared to other environmental factors. You'll actually be doing less stress to your system staying at the same levels constantly, which you're accomplishing with deca/undeca ester in castor.
What non-test gear/auxiliaries have you taken? Aromatase inhibitors, etc.
This'll be a glycemic spike on a daily basis (check the sugar) that you can afford to cut out, try to find a lower glycemic alternative.
secondlives
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It could be that your angiotensin II receptors aren't as active as others such as your beta-adrenergic receptors. Meanwhile lisinopril is relaxing your vessels across the board, regardless of receptor activity.
I would ask your doctor about adding a beta-blocker. They are also relatively benign and act to reduce the total amount of heartbeats that occur across the day. I'm your age and on the same one as my doctor, 50mg of metoprolol. That dose got me within range.
If you have male pattern balding in your genes, you will want to start this before it gets visible.
These dosing schedules and doses are fine for long term
Any time you go into a caloric deficit you have to increase your protein intake from baseline. I wouldn't do any more extended fasting as its highly catabolic.
Protein heavy breakfasts and dinners will help prevent excess muscle degradation.
AlexDavis43
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setting men up for needless suffering later in life, both in terms of self esteem, and in the very real way society perceives and treats men with hair loss.
The psychological consequences of androgenetic alopecia: A systematic review - PMC
Androgenetic alopecia is the most common cause of hair loss in both males and females. In a society that places significant value on hair and associates it with attractiveness, a lack there of can have damaging psychological consequences. The ...
sounds like a bunch of pussies
lukiss96
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I found my passion for body weight exercises again after many years. Exercises like dips and pullups. In addition to leg training and cardio I'm doing sprints twice per week now.
Maybe some guys will laugh it off, but I don't see the need to go to the gym. I need to downsize some.
Maybe some guys will laugh it off, but I don't see the need to go to the gym. I need to downsize some.
lukiss96
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Weight is still a bitch, currently it's 226-228 pounds and lowest I have been recently was 224 I'm working on getting to 220 first and then slowly settle for 215-220 zone. Key right here is to do it in a way that's sustainable.
I'm off creatine for over a week and TU is tapering itself down, since it's such a long ester it will take another 10 days until I reach my desired dose. I should lose 5 pounds of water based on my previous experience.
Blood pressure is 130's/60's and pulse is 60 mostly. I decided to stay on telmisartan and increased my dose to 80mg/day and added in 5mg cialis. I wanted to switch to lisinopril but didn't, I like telmisartan more side effect wise which are not noticeable day to day and I'd rather play it safe. I felt weird on lisinopril before and I didn't like it.
Yesterday I donated blood and blood pressure was 140's/70's when doctor checked it, at home like I said it's 130's. Hemoglobin was 171g/l range limit is 180g/l. Today it should have lowered in to the 160 zone. Basically I never went over 180 limit even on a lot of Test before.
Some of my BP readings over the days:
(Sys/Dia/Pulse):
136/65/60
119/57/61
130/58/59
136/68/66
133/65/77
135/71/65
132/70/58
134/61/61
127/67/58
143/69/56
132/72/68
134/63/64
130/68/60
124/62/70
128/66/64
134/69/70
So average seems to be 130/60.
Pretty good compared to before my self treatment of constant 150/80. But not saying there is no room for improvement. I will continue to lose weight and try other means. I'm quite happy and not worried anymore.
I'm off creatine for over a week and TU is tapering itself down, since it's such a long ester it will take another 10 days until I reach my desired dose. I should lose 5 pounds of water based on my previous experience.
Blood pressure is 130's/60's and pulse is 60 mostly. I decided to stay on telmisartan and increased my dose to 80mg/day and added in 5mg cialis. I wanted to switch to lisinopril but didn't, I like telmisartan more side effect wise which are not noticeable day to day and I'd rather play it safe. I felt weird on lisinopril before and I didn't like it.
Yesterday I donated blood and blood pressure was 140's/70's when doctor checked it, at home like I said it's 130's. Hemoglobin was 171g/l range limit is 180g/l. Today it should have lowered in to the 160 zone. Basically I never went over 180 limit even on a lot of Test before.
Some of my BP readings over the days:
(Sys/Dia/Pulse):
136/65/60
119/57/61
130/58/59
136/68/66
133/65/77
135/71/65
132/70/58
134/61/61
127/67/58
143/69/56
132/72/68
134/63/64
130/68/60
124/62/70
128/66/64
134/69/70
So average seems to be 130/60.
Pretty good compared to before my self treatment of constant 150/80. But not saying there is no room for improvement. I will continue to lose weight and try other means. I'm quite happy and not worried anymore.
lukiss96
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I try hard to stick to 3000-3200 calories per day. 220g protein, 260g carbs, 116g fats. I find not much of a difference between 150 and 200+ grams of protein, so I make sure to get at least 150 and I'm good.
This is going to be kinda slow and steady weight loss, somewhere I should find maintenance and make it easier to sustain it.
This is going to be kinda slow and steady weight loss, somewhere I should find maintenance and make it easier to sustain it.
malfeasance
Well-known Member
Weight training will make losing fat easier, was will cutting your dietary fats down.
3200 calories and no weight training is probably why your weight loss has stalled.
3200 calories and no weight training is probably why your weight loss has stalled.
AlexDavis43
Member
Think he's trying to downsize overall, not just lose body fat. OK for the goal of reducing reliance on hypertensive medications.
Not my bag by any means, but seems a reasonable approach, in combination with increased cardio which he also mentioned (maybe longer duration zone 2 instead of sprints, but any is better than none).
malfeasance
Well-known Member
LOL, I took 9 months off of weight training for the same reason. I missed that this was his strategy. Thanks for pointing that out.
Still too many calories for the goal.
lukiss96
Well-known Member
I will go on to a true TRT starting from autumn (100-125mg/week) and take a time off, possible lenghty hiatus from this forums and elsewhere, maybe post rarely. I will not take any steroids only what's necessary for trt. I'll possibly return to the game somewhere in 2025, but I'm not sure about it yet.
AlexDavis43
Member
Easier said than done but hope for the best brother.
lukiss96
Well-known Member
Feels good, I donated blood and I'm quite happy cuz my hemoglobin is 169 (max range is 180). This means even high cruising on 300-400T for extended time and then backing down to 200 or a bit less for some time is enough to reverse thicker than normal blood. Other markers look fine and blood pressure stabilized at 130's/60's.
I will probably return to the game. However, I will only do long but moderate Testosterone only blasts, nothing else. It is better this way for me.
For now I'm taking a break from this all and this awesome place. Will return sometime in the future, I guess. Thanks friends, it was a good time. Take care and stay healthy and strong.
I will probably return to the game. However, I will only do long but moderate Testosterone only blasts, nothing else. It is better this way for me.
For now I'm taking a break from this all and this awesome place. Will return sometime in the future, I guess. Thanks friends, it was a good time. Take care and stay healthy and strong.
iris
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You will be missed.
Take care and if, I'm still here when you come back, I hope to see you returning with good news and good health.
Pulpfiction
Member
I’ve been on trt for five years and never have had any blood pressure issues. Now stomach problems that’s a whole other issue but that’s from blasting and orals. But because of that I can’t go crazy with gear anymore. Ive been married for 5 years now and I wouldn’t have the life I have today without my wife who’s amazing and understands I need trt to have a normal life physically. However she won’t let me ever compete again, and I’m okay with that. I’d rather keep a healthy marriage then look good for my business (personal trainer) or for a show that’s absolutely useless. I do take peptides as well (cjc ipamorelin) eventually soon I’ll make the jump to hgh at like 2-3 ius a day just for longevity and better recovery.
Approaching my 40’s I’ve realized that being jacked and shredded year around was awesome and fun but caused too many issues . having a great marriage, great relationship with my son, a great training business, and quality of life are wayyyyy more important than the health problems that come with along with higher amounts of gear. When I blast it causes issues in my personal life so i haven’t and won’t for a while. 200 trt seems to keep me healthy,happy, and in great shape and hope I won’t have to come off.
Approaching my 40’s I’ve realized that being jacked and shredded year around was awesome and fun but caused too many issues . having a great marriage, great relationship with my son, a great training business, and quality of life are wayyyyy more important than the health problems that come with along with higher amounts of gear. When I blast it causes issues in my personal life so i haven’t and won’t for a while. 200 trt seems to keep me healthy,happy, and in great shape and hope I won’t have to come off.
narta
Member
You can blast occasionally just find the gear and dosages that don't interfere with your life. Last time I was on, test, mast, tren (yes tren albeit at 150mg/w) was ok. No wild aggression, no intrusive thoughts, just a slightly decrease in breathing capacity and waking up one time more than the usual. If ai had gone to the usual younger 500-600 that would be another story.
Back to 150mg e10d TRT till next year.
Crack on!
You speak from a position of deep ignorance. Sleep, diet (aside from malnutrition) exercise and stress are not significant causes of permanent hair loss.
While the sentiment of "compensate in other ways that offset your balding" sounds really nice in theory, it has little bearing in real life. Anyone advocating against the only two effective, FDA approved treatments for Androgenic Alopecia on baseless or exaggerated fears is setting men up for needless suffering later in life, both in terms of self esteem, and in the very real way society perceives and treats men with hair loss.
The psychological consequences of androgenetic alopecia: A systematic review - PMC
Androgenetic alopecia is the most common cause of hair loss in both males and females. In a society that places significant value on hair and associates it with attractiveness, a lack there of can have damaging psychological consequences. The ...
If you have a good carreer, in good physical shape, a good sense of humour the women you want do not care at all about hair. Unless you look ugly bald
