My next cycle #3

[Bigbicep]

Hey guys, it’s come to that time again. Jumping back on in a few weeks and trying to get things sorted. My next cycle is a growth faze and I’m planning on trying out some primo. The cycle will start out at 800 test 400 primo and 200 npp. Last time I tryed npp at 400 and ended up dropping it cus I couldn’t handle it but I want to give it another shot at a lower dose and with a DHT to see how goes. I’ll be lowering the test until I find a right dosage that will support the 400 primo so I don’t crash my estro starting at a lower then 2:1 ratio. And if I can handle the Npp well at 200 I’ll be slowly upping it till I hit 300-400. If I don’t tolirate the npp I’ll be dropping it and stick to primo and test. If I don’t tolerate the primo and run into sides I don’t like or can’t handle I’ll be dropping it aswell and just upping the test. Now I know some of you are going to say just do high test but I want to dabble with other compounds first so I know what I can handle and what I can’t handle. I will also be starting ru for my hair a week or 2 before the cycle starts so I can get some sort of saturation from it. What are your guys thoughts?

 

[rebornmuscles]

Why not do like 500 test 200 npp and 250primo and up the test and primo together and see your reaction and your hair, maybe at 400mg primo is too high for you maybe not but I prefer to up my dosage than lower it because of the sides is another pov ofc

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

What are your guys thoughts?

I think you are overcomplicating stuff and need to focus on your gym performance/diet over drugs.

What are your stats now?

It's phase btw, not "faze"

 

[Liter O' Test]

Why not do like 500 test 200 npp and 250primo and up the test and primo together and see your reaction and your hair, maybe at 400mg primo is too high for you maybe not but I prefer to up my dosage than lower it because of the sides is another pov ofc

Why do you recommend 500mg test instead of 800mg?

 

[bolognasty]

What about 50mg tren ace and 30mg dbol everyday instead? Highly anabolic. You could take that for 4-6 weeks and still get a better bang for your buck than primo and npp.

 

[Liter O' Test]

forget the npp, it will never be what you think it is based on forum anecdotes made by anonymous dyels

 

[Bigbicep]

Why not do like 500 test 200 npp and 250primo and up the test and primo together and see your reaction and your hair, maybe at 400mg primo is too high for you maybe not but I prefer to up my dosage than lower it because of the sides is another pov ofc

I could do it like that. I just didn’t want to have to adjust both. The goal was to have test at 500 and primo at 400 that would be nice but just don’t know how my estro will react

 

[Bigbicep]

I think you are overcomplicating stuff and need to focus on your gym performance/diet over drugs.

What are your stats now?

It's phase btw, not "faze"

My stats are:
5’8
Around 81kg. Haven’t done a morning weigh in for awhile
Around 10-15% not really sure, can still slightly see abs

But yea Ofc I’m locked in. It would be a waste of time, money and natty hormone power if I wasn’t.

And also thanks for the correction lol I know it’s phase idk why I wrote faze lol

 

[Bigbicep]

What about 50mg tren ace and 30mg dbol everyday instead? Highly anabolic. You could take that for 4-6 weeks and still get a better bang for your buck than primo and npp.

No, not touch tren rn

 

[Bigbicep]

forget the npp, it will never be what you think it is based on forum anecdotes made by anonymous dyels

Yes I know. I didn’t really want to but I literally have 9 vails left of it and I don’t want to waste it

 

[rebornmuscles]

Why do you recommend 500mg test instead of 800mg?

In this case because of the problems he can have with primo so down the dosage of both, why you think he needs 800mg for anyway ?

 

[Bigbicep]

In this case because of the problems he can have with primo so down the dosage of both, why you think he needs 800mg for anyway ?

Test is test it’s not tren. I handle test well and have done upto 600mg.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

My stats are:
5’8
Around 81kg. Haven’t done a morning weigh in for awhile
Around 10-15% not really sure, can still slightly see abs

But yea Ofc I’m locked in. It would be a waste of time, money and natty hormone power if I wasn’t.

And also thanks for the correction lol I know it’s phase idk why I wrote faze lol

repeat cycle 2 with the drugs you could tolerate

Why not stick to one consistent cycle you keep increasing the AAS load. How consistent have you been on a blast?

You keep adding in more compound and having issues with sides. You know how I know? all the posts and complaints you do.

I am not saying you shouldnt ask for help.

What I am saying is depression, water retention, poor sleep, poor lifestyle. can all affect your gym performance. You are pretty small and to be frank. remembering your old pics, you looked like you went straight into drugs.


you are going into 1.4g of gear.

Stop the increase of drugs so you can stop focusing on your sides and focus on your gym performance.

 

[rebornmuscles]

Test is test it’s not tren. I handle test well and have done upto 600mg.

That's your case only some can handle 1.5G well and others have sides with 500mg it's an individual thing
You can think high dose is high result and because is test you can go to the sky it's your point of view only ...
I just remember you bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint, health first

 

[Liter O' Test]

why you think he needs 800mg for anyway ?

500mg->800mg test is not a big deal
What is the highest dose of testosterone you have done?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Sounds like you’re worried about your hair.

Why not give test + EQ a shot? Hair safe, low sides, it’s a compound you haven’t tried (?), good for growth phase, can potentially control estrogen.

You tolerate test well so there is only one other variable here that is an unknown.

Not to throw a total wrench in your plan, but just another consideration.

 

[Bigbicep]

repeat cycle 2 with the drugs you could tolerate

Why not stick to one consistent cycle you keep increasing the AAS load. How consistent have you been on a blast?

You keep adding in more compound and having issues with sides. You know how I know? all the posts and complaints you do.

I am not saying you shouldnt ask for help.

What I am saying is depression, water retention, poor sleep, poor lifestyle. can all affect your gym performance. You are pretty small and to be frank. remembering your old pics, you looked like you went straight into drugs.


you are going into 1.4g of gear.

Stop the increase of drugs so you can stop focusing on your sides and focus on your gym performance.

I get what you’re saying and I appreciate it. Iv only ever had 1 bad side and that was from my first run with npp. I have progressed abit since those last photos I uploaded. Tbh I wanted to try something new. I wanted to try primo but I still have these 9 vials of Npp I don’t wanna waste. Mabey i could stick with just primo and test this round but sooner or later I wanna try and get rid of this npp.

 

[Bigbicep]

That's your case only some can handle 1.5G well and others have sides with 500mg it's an individual thing
You can think high dose is high result and because is test you can go to the sky it's your point of view only ...
I just remember you bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint, health first

Yea well I don’t plan on keeping test super high, the plan was to lower the rest until I had a good e2 range. Iv ran at 600mg and was completely fine.

 

[Bigbicep]

Sounds like you’re worried about your hair.

Why not give test + EQ a shot? Hair safe, low sides, it’s a compound you haven’t tried (?), good for growth phase, can potentially control estrogen.

You tolerate test well so there is only one other variable here that is an unknown.

Not to throw a total wrench in your plan, but just another consideration.

Yea was thinking about eq. Was trying to get my hands on some bold Cyp because I don’t wanna deal with eqs long half life. If I can manage to find some I’ll give it a go for sure.

 

[Bigbicep]

500mg->800mg test is not a big deal
What is the highest dose of testosterone you have done?

600