My Planned Cycle for Fall/Winter 2025

[dinfar1337]

I learned this with my spinal injury. It forced me to get perfect technique with the back movements so I could train while my spine recovered, and I still made improvement despite the fact that just walking or sitting hurt.

ive recently fell in love with lat pullovers.

15-20 kg all you need go home with the 200kg cable row sir

 

[IndividualMan]

ive recently fell in love with lat pullovers.

15-20 kg all you need go home with the 200kg cable row sir

Lat pullovers are goated. However, if you get on one of those machines with an insane lever and no way to hold yourself down you do involuntary levitations

 

[dinfar1337]

However, if you get on one of those machines with an insane lever and no way to hold yourself down you do involuntary levitations

i dont like machines at all. only for legs and chest.

legs machines are mandatory and rn machines are better on my elbow than dumbells/barbells are for my injury

 

[IndividualMan]

i dont like machines at all. only for legs and chest.

legs machines are mandatory and rn machines are better on my elbow than dumbells/barbells are for my injury

Really?
I personally love machines that give you a good consistent resistance profile (T-bar row at the right angle, those standing/ leaning hamstring curls, those plate loaded machines for rear delts). Some of them are ass tho.
Obviously they are a must for legs, especially for my cripple/scar leg, lmao

 

[Slowww]

Lat pullovers are goated. However, if you get on one of those machines with an insane lever and no way to hold yourself down you do involuntary levitations

hate to be a science based Tik tok lifter but this is the only machine which I will accept a seatbelt being used for this reason hahaha

 

[IndividualMan]

Seatbelts, yippeee

 

[IndividualMan]

1 full week into the cycle, frontload will be done on the 20th.
will just continue with 365 Test 300EQ for now, and bump up the Test C/add TNE when the AI effects from the EQ become too noticeable on feelz or bloodwork, whichever happens first.

already up 3kgs, just from additional glycogen stores. I look fuller, but my usual gut distension problems do not occurr with my current diet. big win, 72cm waist even with a relatively high fiber/ high protein/high carb/low fat diet.
God praise super short acting (~20min-1hour) Eli Lilly Insulin.

 

[ChemBB]

i would the titration of the EQ, it takes 6-8 weeks to build up anyway.

What every said ^^

EQ takes some 16 odd weeks to saturate, so it titrates itself up
Ramping doses just slows already extraordinarily long process

 

[ChemBB]

but fuck i love bro split. i cant wait for the day i cant recover from ppl anymore and blast 1 body part a day.

I've been doing PPL or a variant for 10 years

Have settled on the below which works best for me
Every body part worked twice per 8 days:

Chest + Tri
Back + Bi + Deadlifts
Shoulders, Traps, Grip Strength
Legs

 

[Rogal69]

How do you like thr UL stuff?That has been really in style recently, what parts do you think make it preferable to another kind of split?

In my experience, UL is only good for newer lifters or lifters who are arguably weak. It wrecked me because for me to hit the weights I needed each workout I was toasted. I tried rotating the first lifts as well to target different parts each day but still the same. And they take for fuckin ever to get done if you hit each body part each lift. I much prefer a variation of PPL.

 

[eery]

In my experience, UL is only good for newer lifters or lifters who are arguably weak. It wrecked me because for me to hit the weights I needed each workout I was toasted. I tried rotating the first lifts as well to target different parts each day but still the same. And they take for fuckin ever to get done if you hit each body part each lift. I much prefer a variation of PPL.

did you manage you effort levels and volume properly? If you take too many sets to failure or too many worksets in general its not going to work out very well doing upper/lower 4-6x a week.

How did you programming look?

 

[Rogal69]

I did, averaged 2 working sets per muscle group, varied rep range from 6-8 or 10-12 based on main lift for the day or accessory if that makes sense. Never went to true failure as I train alone and don’t like to push that far normally. The problem is having to work up to significant weights to get the desired stimulus for each major group lessens the effectiveness of the latter half of the workout. I have a powerlifting background so I used it for a hypertrophy phase post comp.
An example upper day is as follows;

DB bench press - 2 x 6-8
CG BP - 2 x 10-12
BB Row - 2 x 6-8
OHP of choice - 2 x 10-12
LAT pulldown - 2 x 10-12
Lateral raises - 2 x 10-12
Curls of choice - 3 x 10-12
Tricep work of choice 3 x 10-12

The other issue is trying to cover down on other smaller groups, as the rear delts get hit with proper rows however factoring in a new exercise will force another to come out, and it is challenging to progress properly as you do too much each workout, rather than something like a PPL where I can really crush a specific 1-2 groups and recover, then crush it again.

I ran U/L for about a 6 month period as well and did not see as much progress as I did when I use a PPL or even “bro split”

Objectively weaker lifters can run it starting off and progress rapidly for sure, as it is a much different amount of load doing 2 sets of 6 with 225 pounds on the squat, over 2 sets of 6 with 485 pounds.

 

[IndividualMan]

Cycle is starting to pic kup ~1.5 months in. weight stayed the same even tho I am still cutting, the only measurement going down is the waist (73fasted, 82 end of day)
Training ULRULUR/LURLULR
Currently drinking between 4-6 Liters per day, Eating 2300-2500 Calories (carb cycling for lower days)
Pinning M/F or T/F at the moment, down from M/W/F,
AAS are at 235 TestC 225EQ/ week atm, with a little residual Test D in my system, with occasional Sdrol (1x every other month)

Strength is up in every lift, looks are up, Arm measurements are up, Glutes and hamstrings are growing like crazy, Back strength is up almost 30% for working sets.

This cycle is already the most productive use of AAS since I started.
And its not even close to being done.

 

[atruse]

Great progress dude, getting stronger on a cut is always nice

You planning a bulk phase once this is over? Or just this recomp for now?

 

[IndividualMan]

this cut/recomp will last until i have my 8pack back, currently just 6 abs visible, lowest 2 are still covered. Cut will be over far before the cycle is over. I will probably do a slow gaining phase after I am truly lean, until the 24-28 weeks of the cycle are over. after that its a low TRT dose (75mg-110mg/week)