i had my glandular tissue removed...would i like to know if it can be formed again with the use of steroids?
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Myth Buster - Prolactin Tren/Deca
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boxcar
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Ohhhh, I second this.
I've heard both sides.
BUT, from my small knowledge...if you had a gland and it 100% removed it wouldn't come back..But I've heard you cant remove the gland 100%
I can me mostly removed I have heard at a 100% but I have heard also the same as boxcar. But even if there is a fragment left you can get gyno flair. Not much but still get it.
I did an ultrasound of the breast and the result was: absence of mammary bud
I would like to hear a final word then ........ deca durabolin only cause gynecomastia if my estradiol is above normal?
and tamoxifen and anastrozole are good to prevent gyno from deca?
and tamoxifen and anastrozole are good to prevent gyno from deca?
That's what they are saying, but I'd still have some caber on hand just in case they are completely wrong.
HuckingFuge
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if you are using Pharma tamoxifen blocks estrogen from attaching to breast tissue. anastrozole reduces estrogen production by 50%. if you are not taking Pharma grade stuff. it is a crap shoot if it will even be real.
boxcar
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Prolaction it self DOES NOT cause gyno..BUT estrogen does, and prolaction can cause a rise in estro, thus causing gyno.
tamoxifen and anastrol will prevent gyne of deca(progesterone)??
Once upon a time.....I was big believer in the whole Prami/Caber thing while running tren. I've been on the tren now for several months, albeit running about 600mg of test also, but I've had zero issues with the infamous "tren dick".
There was a time that when I didn't have access to any test so I ran old school fina by itself and suffered greatly from a soft dick, no libido.
All I can say is if you're having problems with the noodle.....up you're test.
I call MYTH (by my own experiences) on high prolactin levels.
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There was a time that when I didn't have access to any test so I ran old school fina by itself and suffered greatly from a soft dick, no libido.
All I can say is if you're having problems with the noodle.....up you're test.
I call MYTH (by my own experiences) on high prolactin levels.
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viking23
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Although it would be possible for the doctor to miss a miniscual amount on either the surgery or ultrasound so I would still take precautions just to play it safe
DAii
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So what do you if you start feeling sensation on your nips and see them puffy? I thought cabergoline was the remedy, no?
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Prolactin can and does cause gynecomastia. If my understanding is correct, prolactin is a protein hormone produced/secreted from the pituitary gland. And since Trenbolone is a 19-norandrostenedione progestin, its basically a derivative of progesterone and therefore develops progestogenic effects including prolactin induced gynecomastia.
Most of us are aware that prolactin requires elevated levels of estrogen to develop. However, with the right environment and prolactin/estrogen ratio, gynecomastia can occur. And Cabergoline, a dopamine agonist, can prevent that. And it goes without saying that maintaining proper levels of estrogen will also prevent prolactin related sides from occurring.
This has always been my understanding. If any of you have data supporting otherwise, please include it here so we can learn together.
Most of us are aware that prolactin requires elevated levels of estrogen to develop. However, with the right environment and prolactin/estrogen ratio, gynecomastia can occur. And Cabergoline, a dopamine agonist, can prevent that. And it goes without saying that maintaining proper levels of estrogen will also prevent prolactin related sides from occurring.
This has always been my understanding. If any of you have data supporting otherwise, please include it here so we can learn together.
hotdog23
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Wow. Dopamine agonists like prami and caber INCREASE GH output via somastatin inhibition. Real talk
Ozzy619
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This is an old thread but think it should be bumped from time to time
NattyAsGraham
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Agreed good read thanks guys 
Jimmyinkedup
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The key is estrogen management. It is virtually impossible to develop gyno without excess e2 being present. That makes e2 management the key in preventing gyno, regardless of the compounds you are running. Dopamine agonists are a secondary line of defense that can also help and also prevent PRL related sides, most often lactation and sexual related sides.
My approach is and always has been manage e2 first and foremost and have prami on hand in case it should become necessary. I also have ralox (or tamox will work) on hand as well just in case gyno should rear its head. It is important to remember that by the time you are at the point of gyno developing you are already at the point that very serious e2 sides are already taking place in the body. Gyno isnt a good measuring stick for how you should manage e2, blood work is. Keep e2 within clinical range while on cycle is a good policy. That way you get the benefits of e2 without the cost of the serious sides elevated e2 are responsible for, many of which occur way before the development of gyno.
I've taken tren e 2x, tren a once and deca 1x. I ran aromasin with all of the cycles. All other cycles have not incorporated a nandrolone. The only time I've ever noticed gyno is the 2 tren e cycles and the deca cycle. The tren a cycle I ran I incorporated a low dose of t3 (25 micrograms) and pramipaxole and had no gyno symptoms. The other 2 I didn't run prami or t3. I've seen it hypothesized that tren does not cause prolactin to raise directly but it does cause t3 to drop causing hypothyroidism which does raise prolactin. This being said, I ran very low aromasin (12.5mg EOD) on my 1200mg test cycle with zero gyno symptoms. Thoughts?
