Myth Buster - Prolactin Tren/Deca

[System7]

In context he was talking e2 related sides in the original post. Test injections are always going to exceed normal physiological levels for the first two to three days. Higher levels after injection increased chance for estrogen production/sides.

 

[CherryChillin]

In context he was talking e2 related sides in the original post. Test injections are always going to exceed normal physiological levels for the first two to three days. Higher levels after injection increased chance for estrogen production/sides.

I'm referring to a statement Coach Trevor made in this video.
In addition, my friends and their buddies who have had success competing do this.
In essence, it would make sense to inject primo once every 7-10 days, but most still inject e3/e4d. If you're always peaking, there is less chance for fluctuating levels.

I'm not trying to compete in a yes or no deal, I'm just asking, do you honestly see where I am coming from?

I am aware this YouTube account has products they are trying to sell. Heavy bs filter

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[System7]

I see what your saying and get the peaks and valleys argument. In the case of cyp and enan it and the original argument it might be overthinking things a bit. Especially if controlling e2 and related sides and dialing an AI dose in is the main concern. I get wanting consistent levels. I prefer short esters and Ed pinning while I'm on cycle.

 

[Whoremoans]

I'm referring to a statement Coach Trevor made in this video.
In addition, my friends and their buddies who have had success competing do this.
In essence, it would make sense to inject primo once every 7-10 days, but most still inject e3/e4d. If you're always peaking, there is less chance for fluctuating levels.

I'm not trying to compete in a yes or no deal, I'm just asking, do you honestly see where I am coming from?

I am aware this YouTube account has products they are trying to sell. Heavy bs filter

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Inject as frequently as you want. I pin test E every day and it's always worked fine for me. I'm using short esters too so that's why the ED injections but I prefer to pin the same amount of everything I'm taking once a day.

 

[CherryChillin]

I see what your saying and get the peaks and valleys argument. In the case of cyp and enan it and the original argument it might be overthinking things a bit. Especially if controlling e2 and related sides and dialing an AI dose in is the main concern. I get wanting consistent levels. I prefer short esters and Ed pinning while I'm on cycle.

I love pinning too is another reason. Healthy addiction. I swear.

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[Leangains4life]

Musclehead swears by caber guys

 

[Eman]

Musclehead swears by caber guys

Who gives a shit what MH swears by?

 

[Whoremoans]

Musclehead swears by caber guys

He also swears by onyx pharma which is bunk as fuck. Lots of guys use caber or prami but I believe very few actually need it.

 

[CherryChillin]

He also swears by onyx pharma which is bunk as fuck. Lots of guys use caber or prami but I believe very few actually need it.

How would you run deca or tren your first time? Low dose test and control estrogen and g2g???

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[Whoremoans]

How would you run deca or tren your first time? Low dose test and control estrogen and g2g???

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That's user dependent, do research.

 

[Oldschool]

How would you run deca or tren your first time? Low dose test and control estrogen and g2g???

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Basically yes. Pick a dose and run it. Keep estrogen in check but don't look at a number. Look in the mirror and listen to YOUR body.

 

[System7]

Who gives a shit what MH swears by?

How dare you. I may or may not have bought it for the pictures

 

[Eman]

How dare you. I may or may not have bought it for the pictures

A fool and his money are soon parted.

 

[Cratos]

Spent about 90min reading through this thread, worth a bump.

 

[Kinetics63]

Take it from a guy who was on a Test/Tren cycle: Caber can fuck some people up who use it when they don't need it. Caber totally crashed my prolactin down 1/40th of the low range and now my dick doesn't stay hard. I'm pretty sure the crashed prolactin is why after reading a study that shows correlation. Men's Sexual Problems Linked to Low Prolactin Levels

My labs were taken two months ago and I still have a noodle that can't stay hard. I'll be getting bloods again next week for prolactin and thyroid function to see where I'm at. If my prolactin is still crashed I will be trying some domperidone in a desperate attempt to raise prolactin levels.

 

[Erin]

Take it from a guy who was on a Test/Tren cycle: Caber can fuck some people up who use it when they don't need it. Caber totally crashed my prolactin down 1/40th of the low range and now my dick doesn't stay hard. I'm pretty sure the crashed prolactin is why after reading a study that shows correlation. Men's Sexual Problems Linked to Low Prolactin Levels

My labs were taken two months ago and I still have a noodle that can't stay hard. I'll be getting bloods again next week for prolactin and thyroid function to see where I'm at. If my prolactin is still crashed I will be trying some domperidone in a desperate attempt to raise prolactin levels.

Referenced article attached. Keep in mind that as an observational study, only correlation can be identified, not causation - and there are a number of confounding variables in this study.

 

[Kinetics63]

Referenced article attached. Keep in mind that as an observational study, only correlation can be identified, not causation - and there are a number of confounding variables in this study.

I'm fully aware it's only a correlation. That said, It's the best answer I have so far to my dilemma.

 

[Erin]

I'm fully aware it's only a correlation. That said, It's the best answer I have so far to my dilemma.

Agreed. It's almost impossible not to crash prolactin with caber, even with hyperprolactinemia.

 

[Sworder]

Agreed. It's almost impossible not to crash prolactin with caber, even with hyperprolactinemia.

I think one of the main points is that caber lowers IGF-1 and GH... For a bodybuilder, that is horrible!
Manage e2 and prolactin will not be a problem!

 

[Fitwelder]

I just finished my 2nd tren cycle. 1st I ran tren with test for 12 weeks. No ai at all to start as I didn't need it on test only cycle. Halfway thru felt sensitive nips. Took adex and nolva and the issue went away within a couple days. My 2nd cycle was also 12 weeks of test and tren. Ran it with 6mg aromasin eod and no gyno sides. Just my experience