Need help planning a bulking cycle

[griffinator]

Before I’m aware I need to cut sub 14%bf so please just give advice once I'm past that point.

I’m currently floating ideas on compounds and whatnot would definitely like some advice on a “leanish” bulk (ie keeping the water low and keeping in mind its a only 500cals above maintenance bulk)

Currently I’m thinking of using either [Primo, Test, Tren] [Mast, Test, Tren] [Primo, EQ, Test]
[Test, Tren, EQ] all of these kick started with either Anadrol or Ment
(you may note the tren frequently shows up and that’s because I show zero mentals with it)

Any genuine and explained advice or suggestions would be deeply appreciated.

 

[Davidinovg]

Tell us your hystory and experience on previous cycles

 

[griffinator]

Tell us our hystory and experience on previous cycles

rough guesstimates (chronological) but ive done a test 500mg with 50mg dbol [4 weeks], followed by 500mg test with 150mg to 250mg tren ace [8 weeks], 600mg test 500mg-300mg tren enath 50mg anadrol [anadrol till week 4 and tren was dropped to 300mg at week 12 total length was 20 weeks] currently im running 500mg test 300mg tren enath and clen 40mcg.

 

[griffinator]

rough guesstimates (chronological) but ive done a test 500mg with 50mg dbol [4 weeks], followed by 500mg test with 150mg to 250mg tren ace [8 weeks], 600mg test 500mg-300mg tren enath 50mg anadrol [anadrol till week 4 and tren was dropped to 300mg at week 12 total length was 20 weeks] currently im running 500mg test 300mg tren enath and clen 40mcg.

And gaps inbetween which lasted for 4 to 6 weeks i was at 500mg test alone

 

[laclark89]

No orals no tren.

 

[griffinator]

No orals no tren.

Very helpful

 

[Liter O' Test]

given youve done 500 test with 50mg dbol, I'd say you'd have no problem doing 1gram of test.
I would do 1g test 50 adrol, just monitor your BP

if you get bloodwork and can manage your a.i then you can add 500mg+ primo,

 

[johnthebigguy]

As @laclark89 said leave tren and orals out.
Tren is better for cut and recomposition and orals mess with stomach so you can't eat correctly.
Stick with bulking agents like Test Eq Deca(Primo or Mast)
Focus on diet food is very important and train like an animal.
Also try to rest well.

 

[Eddie.]

From your recent pics you were ~23-25% bodyfat, how come you not start with finding a cutting cycle first to lean out and then deal with your bulk? This might take sometime, i don't see the point setting up plans for 2 steps ahead.

 

[Xplicit]

Not sure why people think Tren isnt a bulking compound, absolutely is, especially if you can maintain decent labs on it and appetite. Doesnt take much either.

That said, OP you might need a break from Tren, if only to get your eating under control. Tren makes me ravenous, I do not like to use it for dieting. If this is you, kick it to the curb until your sub 15%.

If I were in your position, I would either look to deca or eq and establish my 2nd primary growth compound for all cycles moving fwd.

 

[griffinator]

Not sure why people think Tren isnt a bulking compound, absolutely is, especially if you can maintain decent labs on it and appetite. Doesnt take much either.

That said, OP you might need a break from Tren, if only to get your eating under control. Tren makes me ravenous, I do not like to use it for dieting. If this is you, kick it to the curb until your sub 15%.

If I were in your position, I would either look to deca or eq and establish my 2nd primary growth compound for all cycles moving fwd.

I’ve actually not really been struggling with the hunger but that being said im unsure what my bf% is.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

I like the sound of Test/Tren/EQ.

 

[purebread]

I’ve actually not really been struggling with the hunger but that being said im unsure what my bf% is.

i'm sure if you post a picture people can chime in with estimates

 

[Eddie.]

i'm sure if you post a picture people can chime in with estimates

2 weeks into cut unknown bf%

as the title says, I'm unsure what the bf% is and I'd like to ask you guys because I'm sure I can't guess it. stats are 5'10 230lbs

thinksteroids.com

You have commented there as well

 

[griffinator]

i'm sure if you post a picture people can chime in with estimates

2 weeks into cut unknown bf%

as the title says, I'm unsure what the bf% is and I'd like to ask you guys because I'm sure I can't guess it. stats are 5'10 230lbs

thinksteroids.com

You have commented there as well

More consistant lighting also more up to date [5,10 222lbs]

 

[ksm2]

More consistant lighting also more up to date [5,10 222lbs]

get on accutane asap

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

get on accutane asap

Accutane can be a drastic measure. Accutane got a whole load of side effects. Used it myself, but It wasnt nessesary.

 

[griffinator]

get on accutane asap

Planning on it next two weeks

 

[TUTfan]

What you should be planning is to lose fat, I would say you need to drop 20lbs of fat just to be 14% . The next four months should be you dropping fat and not taking any type of drugs for that. When your body fat is high, taking steroids will increase your chances of gyno, you already have gyno.

Think about today, the now, not tomorrow. Drop that fat, focus only on that for the next four months. Your posts and questions during that time should be about diet and your training, not drugs.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Planning on it next two weeks

not sure if you really need accutane... has your estrogen been in range?

Have you been checking your blood pressure?

Fasted glucose?

looks like you know how to train and got good genes, looking foward to seeing more progress