Need SERIOUS help with recovery after Tren Cycle...

[RagingWilly]

Hey guys....

PLEASE READ:

Well, I fucked up.

I just got off my last cycle about a week ago.

It was pretty harsh for my 3rd cycle.

Results were amazing, got about 15lbs heavier and lost about 5-6% body fat!
Diet was ON POINT! Training was 6 days a week, going heavy!

Needless to say, I can't get it fully up for shit. My girlfriend is trippin out, thinking that she's not "desirable enough" and thats why i can't get hard.... Which isn't the case.
I can get hard, just can't keep it up.

Tryin to figure out what to do with my Libido and make sure i make a solid recovery.

It's only been a week of running Clomid/Nolva so far. Feelin somewhat better, just not fully sure it's gonna cut it!

HERES THE CYCLE:

Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
T3 @ 25mcg-50mcg for about 10 weeks when i started tren. I did Ramp up/down
Weeks 1-14 = 500-750mg Test E EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 750mg half way)
Weeks 3-14 = 300-450mg Tren A EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 450mg half way)
Weeks 9-14 = 300mg Mast A EoD Per Week.

PCT-
Just started 1 week ago.
Clomid, running it 80/80/40/40
Nolva 20/20/20/20


Thank you guys so much.

Sincerely,
-Willy

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Hey guys....

PLEASE READ:

Well, I fucked up.

I just got off my last cycle about a week ago.

It was pretty harsh for my 3rd cycle.

Results were amazing, got about 15lbs heavier and lost about 5-6% body fat!
Diet was ON POINT! Training was 6 days a week, going heavy!

Needless to say, I can't get it fully up for shit. My girlfriend is trippin out, thinking that she's not "desirable enough" and thats why i can't get hard.... Which isn't the case.
I can get hard, just can't keep it up.

Tryin to figure out what to do with my Libido and make sure i make a solid recovery.

It's only been a week of running Clomid/Nolva so far. Feelin somewhat better, just not fully sure it's gonna cut it!

HERES THE CYCLE:

Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
T3 @ 25mcg-50mcg for about 10 weeks when i started tren. I did Ramp up/down
Weeks 1-14 = 500-750mg Test E EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 750mg half way)
Weeks 3-14 = 300-450mg Tren A EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 450mg half way)
Weeks 9-14 = 300mg Mast A EoD Per Week.

PCT-
Just started 1 week ago.
Clomid, running it 80/80/40/40
Nolva 20/20/20/20


Thank you guys so much.

Sincerely,
-Willy

I think you are right!

Is that EOD correct?

So, the AAS weekly dose for each was what?

 

[RagingWilly]

I think you are right!

Is that EOD correct?

So, the AAS weekly dose for each was what?

I apologize, I was injecting 1/3rd of that EOD. The dosages I posted were the weekly dosages.
I also ran EPI the first 8 weeks.. So I'm really just trying to figure out what step I should take right now for recovery??

 

[RagingWilly]

Hey guys....

PLEASE READ:

Well, I fucked up.

I just got off my last cycle about a week ago.

It was pretty harsh for my 3rd cycle.

Results were amazing, got about 15lbs heavier and lost about 5-6% body fat!
Diet was ON POINT! Training was 6 days a week, going heavy!

Needless to say, I can't get it fully up for shit. My girlfriend is trippin out, thinking that she's not "desirable enough" and thats why i can't get hard.... Which isn't the case.
I can get hard, just can't keep it up.

Tryin to figure out what to do with my Libido and make sure i make a solid recovery.

It's only been a week of running clomid/nolva so far. Feelin somewhat better, just not fully sure it's gonna cut it!

HERES THE CYCLE:

clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
T3 @ 25mcg-50mcg for about 10 weeks when i started tren. I did Ramp up/down
Weeks 2-9 = Epistane caps. dosage being 30/30/40/40/40/50/50
Weeks 1-14 = 500-750mg Test E EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 750mg half way)
Weeks 3-14 = 300-450mg Tren A EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 450mg half way)
Weeks 9-14 = 300mg Mast A EoD Per Week.

pct-
Just started 1 week ago.
Clomid, running it 80/80/40/40
Nolva 20/20/20/20


Thank you guys so much.

Sincerely,
-Willy

 

[boxcar]

Well, I'm no expert on PCT at all.

1-add some viagra or cialas? to help in the bed room
2-You could always increase Nolva higher, wouldn't do that with clomid
3-add in DAA at 6g daily, gets me rock hard on PCT
4-add in a low dose of armidex or extrem


are your PCT research or pharm quality?

 

[TheGuy85]

So you started pct and you have been off for only a week? Test e hasn't even cleared yet assuming it was test e.

 

[mghoward74]

From my research...you have what's called "Tren or Deca Dick". Both Tren & Deca-dura Bolin causes this.

Not sure on this but you need to look up Dostinex/caber, & HCG.

Do more research on tren and it's side effect

Hope that helps some.

 

[Ozzy619]

Hey guys....

PLEASE READ:

Well, I fucked up.

I just got off my last cycle about a week ago.

It was pretty harsh for my 3rd cycle.

Results were amazing, got about 15lbs heavier and lost about 5-6% body fat!
Diet was ON POINT! Training was 6 days a week, going heavy!

Needless to say, I can't get it fully up for shit. My girlfriend is trippin out, thinking that she's not "desirable enough" and thats why i can't get hard.... Which isn't the case.
I can get hard, just can't keep it up.

Tryin to figure out what to do with my Libido and make sure i make a solid recovery.

It's only been a week of running clomid/nolva so far. Feelin somewhat better, just not fully sure it's gonna cut it!

HERES THE CYCLE:

clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
T3 @ 25mcg-50mcg for about 10 weeks when i started tren. I did Ramp up/down
Weeks 2-9 = Epistane caps. dosage being 30/30/40/40/40/50/50
Weeks 1-14 = 500-750mg Test E EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 750mg half way)
Weeks 3-14 = 300-450mg Tren A EoD Per week (dosage was ramped to 450mg half way)
Weeks 9-14 = 300mg Mast A EoD Per Week.

pct-
Just started 1 week ago.
Clomid, running it 80/80/40/40
Nolva 20/20/20/20


Thank you guys so much.

Sincerely,
-Willy

You started pct too soon. You still have Test E in your system. Next time wait two weeks and then run pct. Your clomid should be 100/100/50/50 and Nolva should be 40/40/20/20. And you have to expect that your dick is not going to be running perfectly after a cycle. It will get back to normal depending on how well your pct goes. Next time do more research on your pct before jumping into a cycle like that. You would only use HCG during your cycle and up to pct. HCG can possibly help you get back on track faster.

From my research...you have what's called "Tren or Deca Dick". Both Tren & Deca-dura Bolin causes this.

Not sure on this but you need to look up Dostinex/caber, & HCG.

Do more research on tren and it's side effect

Hope that helps some.

Using HCG during pct will only shut him down more. Its counter productive for pct

 

[greenddog1]

A few questions: have you thought to read any of the sticky threads in this forum? Did you utilize the PCT Calculator for your cycle?
You do need some help and I'm not here to bash you, but too many times people get themselves in these jams when the help is right in front of them. Good luck to you.

 

[mghoward74]

You started pct too soon. You still have Test E in your system. Next time wait two weeks and then run pct. Your clomid should be 100/100/50/50 and Nolva should be 40/40/20/20. And you have to expect that your dick is not going to be running perfectly after a cycle. It will get back to normal depending on how well your pct goes. Next time do more research on your pct before jumping into a cycle like that. You would only use HCG during your cycle and up to pct. HCG can possibly help you get back on track faster.


Using HCG during pct will only shut him down more. Its counter productive for pct

I didn't say use hcg during pct.

BTW...Where did you find info of using hcg during pct will shut him down? I've seen where it actually helps. After you're down with the hcg treatment, continue on with the Nolva & clomid until your pct is done.

 

[Ozzy619]

I didn't say use hcg during cycle.

Well we are talking pct here and if this guy doesn't know any better he might run HCG during pct. Specify next time for guys that don't know about pct. You have to put it in black and white for some guys.

 

[mghoward74]

Well we are talking pct here and if this guy doesn't know any better he might run HCG during pct. Specify next time for guys that don't know about pct. You have to put it in black and white for some guys.

I did a typo. ....meant pct not cycle. Corrected it through edit mode

 

[Ozzy619]

I didn't say use hcg during pct.

BTW...Where did you find info of using hcg during pct will shut him down? I've seen where it actually helps. After you're down with the hcg treatment, continue on with the Nolva & clomid until your pct is done.

HCG acts in the body like LH and makes the testes produce testosterone. You need LH levels to fall back into normal range before starting PCT. Here's a couple Bill Roberts articles for you that can explain it better.

https://thinksteroids.com/articles/hcg-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/hcg/

 

[mghoward74]

HCG acts in the body like LH and makes the testes produce testosterone. You need LH levels to fall back into normal range before starting PCT. Here's a couple Bill Roberts articles for you that can explain it better.

https://thinksteroids.com/articles/hcg-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/hcg/

Thanks for the links.

http://www.steroidology.com/hcg-human-chorionic-gonadotropin/

last paragraph is what I was referring to.
Too bad everyone cant get on the same page with objective info...vs subjective. This is why people make poor decision (conflicting info). Hope the op gets the info he needs.

 

[Ozzy619]

Thanks for the links.

http://www.steroidology.com/hcg-human-chorionic-gonadotropin/

last paragraph is what I was referring to.
Too bad everyone cant get on the same page with objective info...vs subjective. This is why people make poor decision (conflicting info). Hope the op gets the info he needs.

@hotdog23 made some valid points today about running HCG a couple weeks into pct, and then extending pct a couple weeks longer. Maybe he can post what he said earlier.

 

[mghoward74]

@hotdog23 made some valid points today about running HCG a couple weeks into pct, and then extending pct a couple weeks longer. Maybe he can post what he said earlier.

Cool... I have to find that particular post. I just thought if HCG jump starts the process and the nolva/clomid continues it (rides into the sunset).

Both parties do the job from 2 different ways

 

[hotdog23]

Wish I could find the thread where I read it. **I am just repeating things I have read ***

Hcg on cycle 250-500 x2 weekly

PCT
Day 1-14 2000iu hcg eod
Day 1-45 20mg nolva
Day 1-30. 100/100/50/50 clomid

Hcg will keep leydig cells active. When exogenous test clears, hcg will boost test levels probably way above baseline. SERMs will boost gnrh and LH/FSH. When hcg is stopped our natty gonadotropins should be at a level to seamlessly take over test production and now we have a functional feedback loop. That's the idea folks. I will b implementing this pct in a few weeks along with humilin R PWO and ghrp/cjc. Also low dose aromasin throughout

The hcg in pct will hopefully prevent your body from ever being in a hormonally void state, and should aid in retaining gains.

** I'm just repeating shit**

@Ozzy619 dam puttin a man to work around here!

 

[Ozzy619]

Wish I could find the thread where I read it. **I am just repeating things I have read ***

Hcg on cycle 250-500 x2 weekly

PCT
Day 1-14 2000iu hcg eod
Day 1-45 20mg nolva
Day 1-30. 100/100/50/50 clomid

Hcg will keep leydig cells active. When exogenous test clears, hcg will boost test levels probably way above baseline. SERMs will boost gnrh and LH/FSH. When hcg is stopped our natty gonadotropins should be at a level to seamlessly take over test production and now we have a functional feedback loop. That's the idea folks. I will b implementing this pct in a few weeks along with humilin R PWO and ghrp/cjc. Also low dose aromasin throughout

The hcg in pct will hopefully prevent your body from ever being in a hormonally void state, and should aid in retaining gains.

** I'm just repeating shit**

@Ozzy619 dam puttin a man to work around here!

Haha sorry but I thought your wisdom on HCG could help alot of the guys out here, including myself. Good shit bro, thanks for the input. Looking forward to getting my man balls back.

 

[hotdog23]

Thx but others wisdom I just repeat

Just started hcg a couple weeks ago and ejaculate volume has like quintupled! Think that means it's working lol