new drug test

[AnabolicAnimal]

ok no bullshit here this is a question for a friend(i know that sounds made up but seroiusly) he got cought over the summer with 1/2 a gram of coke(which is like nothing really) and he's on something called PTI(pre-trail-intervention)meaning if he passes drug tests and stays out of troulbe for a year the charge is droped everything gets expunged(erased,i'm a bad speller not sure if that's the proper way to spell expunged). so anyway he goes to see this lady he must meet with once a month and she give him a swab to stick in his mouth he assumes it's for a drug test. his question is A. was it for a drug test? and B. how far back can this new test detect any drugs? pot, and yes sadly coke are his main concerns. any ideas about this guys?

 

[Grizzly]

Tell him not to be a stupid fuck! This sounds like he's still using. Cocaine is a felony charge. A felony charge = the rest of your life being fucked up. You can't even get financial aid for college if you ever been convicted of simple misdemeanor drug posession. He couldn't even get into college or most jobs as a felon.

If he can't stay clean for a year, then he really does need to get fucked by the judicial system. Granted, I hate our drug laws and I don't think it's anybody's business what you, he or I put in our bodies, but the fact is that the laws exist and if he gets busted for this he is F-U-C-K-E-D for the next 60 years of his life.

Help him get his head out of his ass, please.

 

[BigLibby]

Couldn't have said it any better, and yes that is a new type of drug test

Tell him not to be a stupid fuck! This sounds like he's still using. Cocaine is a felony charge. A felony charge = the rest of your life being fucked up. You can't even get financial aid for college if you ever been convicted of simple misdemeanor drug posession. He couldn't even get into college or most jobs as a felon.

If he can't stay clean for a year, then he really does need to get fucked by the judicial system. Granted, I hate our drug laws and I don't think it's anybody's business what you, he or I put in our bodies, but the fact is that the laws exist and if he gets busted for this he is F-U-C-K-E-D for the next 60 years of his life.

Help him get his head out of his ass, please.

 

[MANWHORE]

With all the technology out now,i wouldn't take a chance. I know he has set days to go in to see his probation officer,but they can also call him anytime they want. Tell him to get a job and stop putting that garbage in his body.

 

[AnabolicAnimal]

With all the technology out now,i wouldn't take a chance. I know he has set days to go in to see his probation officer,but they can also call him anytime they want. Tell him to get a job and stop putting that garbage in his body.

lol wow now he's a worthless bum with no job cause he blew a few lines of coke...oh man. i'm wasn't going to begin this whole thing but that line is too much. i'm sorry to say that contrary to what the DEA might have you believe you can infact do recreational drugs and hold down a decent paying job. granted i'm sure everyone here is extremely anit-drug when it comes to recreatinal drugs and i won't even go into how hypocritical that is coming from drug users themselves(a drug is a drug weather you sniff it, or shoot it). but i must comment and let you all know that i live in a place where people can do drugs on occasion on the weekend or vacation, and then resume there normal day to day jobs. some of those jobs being teachers, lawyers, and yes even members of law enforcement. sadly some people can not use recreational drugs in this manner and abuse them thus giving them a really bad name, sounds filmier right? like the kid who starts juicing at 16 and doesn't stop for 10 years and then develops seroius problems. kind of makes all of steroids seem bad. yet if you do them, like anything else, with proper knowledge and restraint they're ok. now i know this is very very hard for most to swallow due to the fact that you where brought up in different areas of the US then myself, but oddly my city it's not very uncommon to find people who use drugs and are also good normal people. it seems that no one has a problem with people going out to drink once or twice on a weeked. alcohol being a drug that's ok because you've grown accustomed to it socially and no one really looks down on that. when a problem develops such as abusing drinking well then everyone sees that as a problem, but social recreational drug use is always viewed as a problem regardless of if it is or not. now i know i'm not going to change your views because most of you are older and it's inbeded into your mind that drugs are horrible terrible things and those who do them are useless to society and are bad people. so i really dont know why i'm posting this but to the few open minded ones i do hope you understand not everyone who does drugs is a "jobless" bum. or even needs "help" for that matter. i would never say a friend who goes out and drinks once a week needs help. nor would i say a guy who does coke every once and a while needs help. it's only when that bad habit is no longer under control and then interferes with his day to day activities, then they should seek help. i just find it so amusing that some would view what we do, steroids as "putting garbage in our body" and yet we have that view of others as well. i guess everyone needs to point a finger at someone to make their bad habits seem better.

 

[nvrenuf]

I'm sure that there are people out there who can use
drugs and lead a normal life. But....If your friend:
a) got busted for drugs
b) is on probation for drugs
c) know he has to test for drugs
d) still uses drugs

then a+b+c+d= He's got a problem to deal with before it deals with him.

back to the topic, yea...it's a drug test.

 

[Grizzly]

Now that was a good point. Very good. Now, I'm not an anti-druggie by any means. In fact, I've been known to blow a line or thirty while getting good and hammered and smoking pot and rolling and...well, you get the point. However, you said it best. When the rest of your life is hanging in the balance and you continue to use drugs, then it's a problem.

 

[chris gordon]

Now that was a good point. Very good. Now, I'm not an anti-druggie by any means. In fact, I've been known to blow a line or thirty while getting good and hammered and smoking pot and rolling and...well, you get the point. However, you said it best. When the rest of your life is hanging in the balance and you continue to use drugs, then it's a problem.

exactly....i used pretty much every illicit substance that man created, for a very long time...if you can use with no negative consequences, then great for you.... like grizz said tho if youre bout to piss away your entire future for a buzz then you have more problems than just a drug test....also dont fall for the old a drug is a drug is a drug bullshit....if you think there is no difference between an aspirin and heroin, or intelligent use of steroids, and someone who cant leave the coke and weed alone for 1 damn year , then you got a lot to learn

 

[Grizzly]

By the same token, what about the guys who can't leave the steroids alone for 1 year?

 

[ijustmegdu]

hahaha, token, drugs...... leave gear out of this. its a completely different addicition.

 

[Grizzly]

How so?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it will allow you to go beyond what you could achieve naturally, but, since the median weight of this board is 200lbs, that argument is moot for almost everyone who uses juice.

 

[ijustmegdu]

because you are not addicted to the drug, you are addicted to the way you look which in turn makes you feel good, it is one step removed from drugs that just make you feel good. you could have the worst drug dependecy in the world and do one or 2 cycles and call it quits, and quite the opposite. gear addicting is like an eating disorder. granted they are none of these are good. but its different.

 

[Grizzly]

I can dig. I still don't see where gear users get off on picking on rec drug users. Different strokes for different folks. My old roomate had absolutely no impulse to do anything remotely physical. He'd rather lay around, smoke pot and hang out with his friends. I don't understand the drive to be a lazy, alcoholic, potheaded, social butterfly but that's because I'm a athletic, recluse who prefers the conversations I have with myself over those I have with others.

 

[Bob Smith]

By the same token, what about the guys who can't leave the steroids alone for 1 year?

Ive been off for over a year. I think I was 17 at the time. jk

 

[chris gordon]

just for the record i willnever bash someone for using rec drugs...but generally when someone tries to rationalize their drug use its because deep down inside they know they are harming themselves, and they are attempting to convince themselves that its ok

 

[niko]

sorry grizz, i believe ohio has the same regulations concerning cocaine. cocaine is a schedule II drug, meaning it it still used in the medical field. it is a topical anasthetic used in dentistry. possesing over 3 grams is a F5, felony of the fifth degree. 1/2 gram is an M1, misdemenor of the first degree, punisheable by up to 90 days. the guy is getting what's called treatment in lue of conviction. the new test can detect cocaine within 48 hours (drink enough water and it's 24). regretfully,my knowledge comes from my past. i grew out of my drug habits, and all my college friends did too. maybe we're lucky. i did it when i had all the extra time and money in college. i managed a niteclub, but now i work and i don't have time for it; or the desire. i still say he's an idiot, at least stay clean until he makes it through treatment

 

[Grizzly]

I know around here, a straw with dust on it will catch you a felony case.

 

[MANWHORE]

lol wow now he's a worthless bum with no job cause he blew a few lines of coke...oh man.

I should have put a smile after that job comment. I've done plenty of Rec drugs in my time,all i was saying is to talk some sense into him. My friend smokes weed every day(never missing one day),his house is cleaner than anyones i know,and he takes a 30min bus ride to work every day. However,he only really takes a few hits from the pipe just to catch a buzz. Your friend shouldn't be worrying about being caught using drugs while in PTI. He shouldn't use at all,while in the program.

 

[Slick Arrado]

I know around here, a straw with dust on it will catch you a felony case.

Same here.