Newbie with too much EQ not enough Sust

demeurj

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Noob on EQ and Sustanon

31yo, 5' 7.5"
1st week Feb 172lbs, 12%bf by caliper
last week March 185lbs, 12%bf by caliper (14.5% by BIA)
strong like bull and one of the administrative assistants yesterday said I have the kind of body that makes women drool . . . and if I was into old Jewish women . . .

Week 1 300mg EQ, 250mg Sustanon
Week 2-7 400mg EQ, 500mg Sustanon (divided dose)
almost as moody as the pregnant wife but otherwise no side effects other than a couple of pimples on the right deltoid

Here's my problem:
I've got 13cc of EQ (200mg/ml) and 3cc of Sustanon (250mg/ml). My original goal was a 8-10wk cycle but obviously the Sustanon isn't going to make it.

Plan A:
Week 8-11 EQ 600mg/wk
Week 8-11 Sus 250mg/wk
Plan B:
Week 8-14 EQ 400mg/wk
Week 8-11 Sus 250mg/wk

Obviously Plan B will lead to a weak noodle . . . but I've already knocked up the wife (well somebody did) and I was already a distant 2nd to her favorite accessory.

Oh yeah, I've got a mountain of Clomid for PCT.
 
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demeurj said:
31yo, 5' 7.5"
Obviously Plan B will lead to a weak noodle . . . but I've already knocked up the wife (well somebody did) and I was already a distant 2nd to her favorite accessory..
Thats funny. You'll def. like eq if you can run for 14 wks, if you can get more test I'd do that. But 11 wks will be fine too.........11
 
I am not so sure that you will get the wet noodle effect with EQ - unlike deca - I would either get more sus or run 250 as a maintenance - but I would still run the EQ at 600 mgs per week

but I feel you should just get more sus
good luck bro
 
Thnx for the advice. The primary reason that I'm not excited about buying more gear; JAXON was my supplier . . . if this bro ain't reliable then my next supplier will need refs from the Pope.

So it looks like the early lead goes to . . .

Plan C:
Week 8-10 Sust 250mg/wk
Week 8-11 EQ 600mg/wk
Week 14-16 Clomid PCT
 
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demeurj said:
Thnx for the advice. The primary reason that I'm not excited about buying more gear; JAXON was my supplier . . . if this bro ain't reliable then my next supplier will need refs from the Pope.

So it looks like the early lead goes to . . .

Plan C:
Week 8-11 Sust 250mg/wk
Week 8-12 EQ 600mg/wk
Week 15-18 Clomid PCT
Try Urbadside for IP gear bro.
 
patsfan said:
Try Urbadside for IP gear bro.
Thnx for the heads up, patsfan. I'm working a trade at the moment. Hopefully, I can get enough Test E to replace the Sustanon. One of the few benefits of being a newbie with money is that I bought a bunch of stuff that I have absolutely NO use for.
 
einstein1905 said:
You could always write yourself a script for some Upjohn test cyp ;)
I would get a slap on the wrist for my small stash of anabolics and feminine hormone regulators. If I get caught writing myself a script then I've basically wasted most of my (short) adult life and might go to jail . . . plus pharmacy prices sux.
 
YEA I WOULD GET SOME MORE TEST. Either Sus or get some Test E and Prop and mix them...half ass sus...
 
demeurj said:
I would get a slap on the wrist for my small stash of anabolics and feminine hormone regulators. If I get caught writing myself a script then I've basically wasted most of my (short) adult life and might go to jail . . . plus pharmacy prices sux.

Sorry...you know I was kidding though.
definitely get some more test. You'll thank yourself for running the EQ 12-14 weeks plus. If you get test E, run it one week past the EQ to adjust for the active lives....I assume you knew that....this is awkward...
have a good night
 
einstein1905 said:
Sorry...you know I was kidding though.
definitely get some more test. You'll thank yourself for running the EQ 12-14 weeks plus. If you get test E, run it one week past the EQ to adjust for the active lives....I assume you knew that....this is awkward...
have a good night


this is what you really should do bro for your best interests
 
demeurj said:
31yo, 5' 7.5"
1st week Feb 172lbs, 12%bf by caliper
last week March 185lbs, 12%bf by caliper (14.5% by BIA)
strong like bull and one of the administrative assistants yesterday said I have the kind of body that makes women drool . . . and if I was into old Jewish women . . .

Week 1 300mg EQ, 250mg Sustanon
Week 2-7 400mg EQ, 500mg Sustanon (divided dose)
almost as moody as the pregnant wife but otherwise no side effects other than a couple of pimples on the right deltoid

Here's my problem:
I've got 13cc of EQ (200mg/ml) and 3cc of Sustanon (250mg/ml). My original goal was a 8-10wk cycle but obviously the Sustanon isn't going to make it.

Plan A:
Week 8-11 EQ 600mg/wk
Week 8-11 Sus 250mg/wk
Plan B:
Week 8-14 EQ 400mg/wk
Week 8-11 Sus 250mg/wk

Obviously Plan B will lead to a weak noodle . . . but I've already knocked up the wife (well somebody did) and I was already a distant 2nd to her favorite accessory.

Oh yeah, I've got a mountain of Clomid for PCT.
Hey bro....I have what you need... I am well known on the boards.....you should try IP's supertest.........350 mg/ml its awesome....test prop, cyp, enanthate, and suspension.
I sent you an e-mail from my other e-mail addy...just so you know its not some imposter.......... ;)
urbadside@cyber-rights.net
 
urbadside said:
Hey bro....I have what you need... I am well known on the boards.....you should try IP's supertest.........350 mg/ml its awesome....test prop, cyp, enanthate, and suspension.
I sent you an e-mail from my other e-mail addy...just so you know its not some imposter.......... ;)
urbadside@cyber-rights.net
get more sust, and I would up the test to 750mg or if this is 1 cycle stay at 500 but do get more test.
 
ramboj70 said:
get more sust, and I would up the test to 750mg or if this is 1 cycle stay at 500 but do get more test.
This my first cycle and since side effects have been extremely mild I'm not going to push my luck on the Test but I may bump the EQ to 600.

Looks like I've got a player for 10 amps of ICN TE 250 as a swap for a bottle of Deca and some Winny 50s. Assuming this newbie doesn't shaft me I will have enough Test for 5 more weeks (total of 12). I think he's getting the better deal but I have no use for my extra gear.

So it looks like . . . Plan D
Week 1: 300 EQ, 250 Sust
Week 2-7: 400 EQ, 500 Sust
Week 8: 600 EQ, 500 Sust (this week)
Week 9-11: 600 EQ, 500 TE
Week 12: 500 TE
Week 15-17: Clomid PCT
 
Single ester tests are far better choices IMO, so good call on that.
You could start clomid pct week 14 with that cycle....unless you think the EQ is at a high enough dose to justify waiting....I didn't do the actual math.
 
I'm with Einstein. Fuck Sust. I'd suggest being patient and wrapping up this cycle. Wait 8 weeks, then do a straight enan cycle for 8 weeks of 600mg. Be a trooper and stick it eod. Don't waste the eq unless you've got something very specific you expect out of it.

If you've just started doing this stuff, work hard, eat right, and see how little of the horse tonic you can get by with. And bloodwork is a pain in the ass, but I feel obliged to say it's worth doing. Talk to Swale if you're interested.
 
Denkallberry said:
I'm with Einstein. Fuck Sust. I'd suggest being patient and wrapping up this cycle. Wait 8 weeks, then do a straight enan cycle for 8 weeks of 600mg. Be a trooper and stick it eod. Don't waste the eq unless you've got something very specific you expect out of it.

If you've just started doing this stuff, work hard, eat right, and see how little of the horse tonic you can get by with. And bloodwork is a pain in the ass, but I feel obliged to say it's worth doing. Talk to Swale if you're interested.

Let me see if I understand you. Are you suggesting I finish Week 8 (this week), do my PCT, and then come back after a couple of months to do a cycle of TE?

In my mind EQ was my base steroid (slow, steady, sustainable gains) and the Sustanon was going to augment that effect without significant side effects. Doesn't it make more sense for me to continue with the EQ for 4 more weeks (total of 11) since I should be in the sweet spot for EQ gains? I was looking for test moreso to get Mr. Winky to salute when the wife makes a request. Like I said she's horny as a goat.

Even for a newbie doesn't 10-12wks of EQ make more sense than 8 wks.
 
demeurj said:
Let me see if I understand you. Are you suggesting I finish Week 8 (this week), do my PCT, and then come back after a couple of months to do a cycle of TE?

In my mind EQ was my base steroid (slow, steady, sustainable gains) and the Sustanon was going to augment that effect without significant side effects. Doesn't it make more sense for me to continue with the EQ for 4 more weeks (total of 11) since I should be in the sweet spot for EQ gains? I was looking for test moreso to get Mr. Winky to salute when the wife makes a request. Like I said she's horny as a goat.

Even for a newbie doesn't 10-12wks of EQ make more sense than 8 wks.

Absolutely. I see no reason to stop it short, especially if sides aren't the reason. Take full advantage of the EQ. I'm all for being cautious on a first cycle, but you should be in a pretty good position to notice any adverse effects.
Just wait until you add tren to the test/EQ mix next time :eek: Look out
 
My concern is, at 600mg/wk eq, I wouldn't get much from eq except a little suppression. If you think think eq is good for hardening, or especially is good for some joint problems, then go for it. But all I believe will happen is that you're delaying the start of your next cycle. Why I believe it's good to just start with good ol' test, is that most will respond to it, and you know what's going on with your cycle by eliminating other variables.

I may just be a hard gainer with eq. I can take a gram a week and not see much off of it, but a simple cycle of a gram of prop or susp and nothing else makes me feel pretty cozy.

For my specific needs, I'd take low dose eq for a few months for joint support (as Hogg suggests). As a general anabolic, it's not very interesting though. Maybe a anadrol/eq cycle might be tasty.
 
"Obviously Plan B will lead to a weak noodle . . . but I've already knocked up the wife (well somebody did) and I was already a distant 2nd to her favorite accessory."

HAHA, I know how you feel, unfortunately theres nothing in the oven on my end!
 
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