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Tazrok

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I'm currently on a cruise of 200mg test E, 100mg mast and 100mg primo a week and I'm in the planning phase of my next cycle that I'm hoping to start January if December bloodwork is OK.
The cycle I have planned is 800mg test c, 600mg primo a week and 100mg Proviron a day.
My question is to I just pin that amount from day 1 of blast of slowly build up to them amounts.
Iv don't alot of reading and I'm getting mixed answers
 
I would work up to it just in case side effects start to show (I am assuming you have taken 1500mg a week before). Why are you adding Proviron?
 
Why are you taking 1.5g when your last cycle was only 600? Start this cycle at 600 test and since you wanna add primo, add something like 300 primo. You can ride that the whole way through and make a ton of gains. Probably more than 1.5g because you could run into appetite and gut issues due to inflammation and your body essentially being shocked by that much gear
 
buzzingonaas said:
Why are you taking 1.5g when your last cycle was only 600? Start this cycle at 600 test and since you wanna add primo, add something like 300 primo. You can ride that the whole way through and make a ton of gains. Probably more than 1.5g because you could run into appetite and gut issues due to inflammation and your body essentially being shocked by that much gear
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Would you say to go from cruise straight to 600/300 from day 1 mate?
 
Tazrok said:
I'm currently on a cruise of 200mg test E, 100mg mast and 100mg primo a week and I'm in the planning phase of my next cycle that I'm hoping to start January if December bloodwork is OK.
The cycle I have planned is 800mg test c, 600mg primo a week and 100mg Proviron a day.
My question is to I just pin that amount from day 1 of blast of slowly build up to them amounts.
Iv don't alot of reading and I'm getting mixed answers
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Remove the proviron. Useless Garbage.
 
I think you'd be fine to do 800 test 600 primo , if you didnt have bad sides from 600mg test, you shouldnt have any at just 200mg more, your only real variable is the primo, which if you choose to use it, you just have to pick a dose and keep an eye on how your estrogen is feeling while its building up and get bloodwork. realistically your only sides are going to be from primo reducing e2 too much or not enough or primo itself

personally i would not add the proviron until youre fully in the cycle because if you get acne or something you wont know if its the primo, estrogen or the proviron.
 
Tazrok said:
Would you say to go from cruise straight to 600/300 from day 1 mate?
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If you didn’t have any issues at 600 test before I’d say yeah go for it. Hopefully you respond well to primo but if you don’t, you’ll know it’s the primo not a dosage issue with the test
 
Most naturals have high SHBG and most enhanced very low. Don't take into account what your body does when you're off gear. Proviron and primo are both DHT derivatives that drive SHBG down. I had a 50 SHBG natural and after test and primo was 11.

I think proviron is good if you're pre contest where you need to nuke estradiol and SHBG for hardness, or with test only cycles and test with a 19nor.
 
Eddie. said:
Most naturals have high SHBG and most enhanced very low. Don't take into account what your body does when you're off gear. Proviron and primo are both DHT derivatives that drive SHBG down. I had a 50 SHBG natural and after test and primo was 11.

I think proviron is good if you're pre contest where you need to nuke estradiol and SHBG for hardness, or with test only cycles and test with a 19nor.
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I had 94 off and 45 on with 50 Proviron daily
 
Tazrok said:
I'm currently on a cruise of 200mg test E, 100mg mast and 100mg primo a week and I'm in the planning phase of my next cycle that I'm hoping to start January if December bloodwork is OK.
The cycle I have planned is 800mg test c, 600mg primo a week and 100mg Proviron a day.
My question is to I just pin that amount from day 1 of blast of slowly build up to them amounts.
Iv don't alot of reading and I'm getting mixed answers
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Why two DHTs?
I would recommend installing Deca instead of Primo or Provi. And one of the two DHTs.
 
buzzingonaas said:
Why are you taking 1.5g when your last cycle was only 600? Start this cycle at 600 test and since you wanna add primo, add something like 300 primo. You can ride that the whole way through and make a ton of gains. Probably more than 1.5g because you could run into appetite and gut issues due to inflammation and your body essentially being shocked by that much gear
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This.

I don't understand the need of always going higher.

If his previous cycle was 600 and he gained from it (and why shouldn't he, unless he is a 300lb Mass monster)
Then why going higher.

A smart approach would be exactly like you suggested start at 600mg, then add later a little Primo and after plateau anyway.

The least amount of gear for gains, then slowly upping to gain more.

Probably all the let's blast double the previous cycle is to attempt to override poor nutrition or poor training.

But that's just my opinion.
 
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