Kralteramon
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Yeah really simple fix if my plan is to do a show in 2 years... I'd rather find out what's wrong and fix it (if it's my physiology) or take my loss and get another brand's HGH.
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Night sweats from HGH
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Ateam2023
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i was serious about Jano testing , but being facetious about the Aggregates, , but it couldn't hurt,,
Kralteramon
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Yeah me too. I just want to figure out what's going on.
Ateam2023
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keep us posted please,,
Jin23
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I was talking about GH's effect on sleep architecture. What OP is experiencing is completely normal and looking for biomarkers that would explain it is pointless.
The sweating, I've had no comment about. However the uptick in fT3 due to GH's hepatic suppression of TBG and increased conversion of T4 to T3 due to higher deoidenase 2 expression, an increased thermogenic effect isn't particularly surprising either. Some are more sensitive to it then others and the addition of aas only further adds to the net load.
I'm not against blood work, especially when adding in a new PED compound, one should always check CBC, hsCRP and do an iron panel (TSAT, serum iron, ferritin). So however this may come across to you @Kralteramon, let it not discourage you of doing blood work.
I've no idea about the state of qsc gear, so maybe the idea of "bad gear" isn't so preposterous, but to jump to that idea before the obvious mechanisms outlined above, makes sense only if you're out of your depth on the subject matter at hand.
Kralteramon
New Member
By the way, this is what ChatGPT gave me:
Final Verdict: Where the Link Between HGH & Night Sweats Comes From
| Cause | Scientific Evidence? | Mechanism |
|---|---|---|
| Increased Metabolic Rate |  Yes | More thermogenesis → More heat → Night sweats |
| Sympathetic Nervous System Overactivation | Yes | Higher adrenaline/cortisol → Overactive sweat glands |
| Blood Sugar Fluctuations (HGH-Induced Insulin Resistance) | Yes | Nocturnal hypoglycemia → Adrenaline release → Sweating |
| Immune Response to HGH (Antibody Formation) | Yes | Cytokine release → Fever-like sweating |
| Water Retention Affecting Thermoregulation | Yes (User Reports + Fluid Balance Research) | Excess water shifts → Body struggles to regulate temperature |
Kralteramon
New Member
Will investigate and experiment/ experience further.
Kralteramon
New Member
Okay, so what I plan to do:
1. Keep running QSC HGH for one more week and see if the side effects get better
2. Include IGF1, Thyroid & CRP to my regular panel
3. Test against pharma HGH and another brand generic, see if it makes a difference
Thing is. The HGH sitting in my fridge is so cheap that testing at Jano would cost me a little bit less than the cost of all the product. So if it still "stinks" in terms of effects and nothing else pops up with the steps taken above. I'm just going to toss it and hop to another brand that's still active and can take responsibility for it's products.
1. Keep running QSC HGH for one more week and see if the side effects get better
2. Include IGF1, Thyroid & CRP to my regular panel
3. Test against pharma HGH and another brand generic, see if it makes a difference
Thing is. The HGH sitting in my fridge is so cheap that testing at Jano would cost me a little bit less than the cost of all the product. So if it still "stinks" in terms of effects and nothing else pops up with the steps taken above. I'm just going to toss it and hop to another brand that's still active and can take responsibility for it's products.
Jin23
Member
By the way, this is what ChatGPT gave me:
Final Verdict: Where the Link Between HGH & Night Sweats Comes From
Cause Scientific Evidence? Mechanism Increased Metabolic Rate More thermogenesis → More heat → Night sweats Sympathetic Nervous System Overactivation Higher adrenaline/cortisol → Overactive sweat glands Blood Sugar Fluctuations (HGH-Induced Insulin Resistance) Nocturnal hypoglycemia → Adrenaline release → Sweating Immune Response to HGH (Antibody Formation) Cytokine release → Fever-like sweating Water Retention Affecting Thermoregulation Excess water shifts → Body struggles to regulate temperature
Yes. As I said, your experience is not outside of potential GH sides.
Kralteramon
New Member
Thanks man, very helpful!
Kralteramon
New Member
Injected 3iu again yesterday before bed. Woke up 4 time but sweating a bit less than before. By the way I tested my blood glucose this morning and it was pretty low at 2.9mmol/L. Going to keep monitoring closely from now on. Didn't do it yet at night when I wake up but planning to do so.
Jin23
Member
That's somewhat too low (not helpful in regards to sleep) and it's also surprising, given you're taking supra physiological dosages of gh.
Kralteramon
New Member
Agree. Going to check during the night if I can today.
Ghoul
Member
Instead of testing (and Jano can't test for large aggregates atm anyway), filter it and you'll essentially eliminate the possibility of an immune reaction to large aggregates or other contaminants.
13mm .22um PES.
Cheap, quick and easy. You can order the filters from Amazon.
Immune response is highly individualized, and you may be a hypersensitive outlier.
Kralteramon
New Member
Thanks, will filter tonight and see what happens. Nothing visible in the vial though. I've actually accidently ordered PES filters before instead of PTFE to filter oils so I can try them tonight/ right away. Keep you posted.
Ghoul
Member
The strongest immune reactions tend to be to particles in the 1um-100um range (these resemble bacteria to our immune system), and are invisible to the naked eye but easily removed with .22um pes.
It's a normal response to HGH as we are not all the same. I sweat like a mofo on primo for example and nandrolone too.
Tren gives me night sweat but at the same time sometime it gives me bone chilling moment of hard hypoglycemia during the night where I wake up rattling my teeth and can't stop shaking until I eat some sugary food.
I mean what's the big deal with some night sweat? Just change your shirt and keep doing the GH for a month or two and see if shit changes it's not like a bit of sweating is gonna kill you.
Lately I think there is a bit of a mass hysteria going around...
The answer to everything is: immunogenic response, bad HGH, aggregates and whatever comes to mind. Like are you for real guys?
Night sweat? Oh noes my GH is making me grow three arms and two heads!
Seriously? Chill!
Tren gives me night sweat but at the same time sometime it gives me bone chilling moment of hard hypoglycemia during the night where I wake up rattling my teeth and can't stop shaking until I eat some sugary food.
I mean what's the big deal with some night sweat? Just change your shirt and keep doing the GH for a month or two and see if shit changes it's not like a bit of sweating is gonna kill you.
Lately I think there is a bit of a mass hysteria going around...
The answer to everything is: immunogenic response, bad HGH, aggregates and whatever comes to mind. Like are you for real guys?
Night sweat? Oh noes my GH is making me grow three arms and two heads!
Seriously? Chill!
Jin23
Member
I think op mostly dislikes the increase in fragmented sleep, which is understandable and the sweating probably doesn't help with that. Otherwise basically I agree. I think it's the lack of experience of these new posters.
However, an immunogenic response is/was an interesting and seldom overlooked topic of discussion ...
Ghoul
Member
Thanks for the last point. I don't mean to imply it's likely the cause, just a possibility, even if remote.
There's enough evidence now that filtering does no harm, and, depending on the condition of the UGL rHGH, can improve its quality by removing contaminants that may be responsible for the variation in sides and potency widely observed between different formulations.
In other words, "can't hurt".
