Nolva v.s. Clomid

[PrinceLambo]

Hey everyone,

I’m fairly new to this, with only two previous sarms cycles (I know, baby food) under my belt, and have always read conflicting threads among other forums about which is the better SERM for during, and after an anabolic cycle. Not to mention the ones that run them together.

What would y’all say is the better choice, and possibly why?
(I’m stocked up on Nolvadex, but can switch if Clomid is more beneficial)

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

Nolvadex + Clomid is the standard post cycle therapy(PCT), but I've seen guys use Nolvadex only, taper doses, or quit cold turkey. You'll have to make that choice though.

Is this going to be your first AAS cycle?

 

[PrinceLambo]

Nolvadex + Clomid is the standard post cycle therapy(PCT), but I've seen guys use Nolvadex only, taper doses, or quit cold turkey. You'll have to make that choice though.

Is this going to be your first AAS cycle?

Cold turkey sounds like such a terrible idea. Nolva seems to be the most popular, though I’ve seen the ones that recommend high doses of clomid. Nolva is stronger in terms of gyno prevention correct? Any thoughts on during cycle? Prevention, and not treatment is the main goal for me.

Yes it would be my first AAS cycle. Keeping it simple, low/mild dosage of test p only. No fear of frequent injections, I find it’ll be better to have a short acting ester in case there’s a negative reaction on my end. If all is well after a few weeks, maybe masteron thrown in simply for a small boost and its own anti estrogenic effect as well.

 

[JackSmooth]

Cold turkey sounds like such a terrible idea. Nolva seems to be the most popular, though I’ve seen the ones that recommend high doses of clomid. Nolva is stronger in terms of gyno prevention correct? Any thoughts on during cycle? Prevention, and not treatment is the main goal for me.

Yes it would be my first AAS cycle. Keeping it simple, low/mild dosage of test p only. No fear of frequent injections, I find it’ll be better to have a short acting ester in case there’s a negative reaction on my end. If all is well after a few weeks, maybe masteron thrown in simply for a small boost and its own anti estrogenic effect as well.

How much rest are you running? Ai? I doubt you’ll need to worry about gyno with low doses but use Nolva as needed instead of the entire cycle.

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

Cold turkey sounds like such a terrible idea. Nolva seems to be the most popular, though I’ve seen the ones that recommend high doses of clomid. Nolva is stronger in terms of gyno prevention correct? Any thoughts on during cycle? Prevention, and not treatment is the main goal for me.

Yes it would be my first AAS cycle. Keeping it simple, low/mild dosage of test p only. No fear of frequent injections, I find it’ll be better to have a short acting ester in case there’s a negative reaction on my end. If all is well after a few weeks, maybe masteron thrown in simply for a small boost and its own anti estrogenic effect as well.

Use an aromatase inhibitor, such as Aromasin or Arimidex, during cycle to prevent gyno IF you need it. Test cypionate or enanthate will require less injections. 500mg is a common dose for first time AAS users.

 

[PrinceLambo]

I was looking at running about 250-300mg of test a week. For AI I’d be using Aromasin. Seems to be the best/strongest, so of course cautiously.

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

I was looking at running about 250-300mg of test a week. For AI I’d be using Aromasin. Seems to be the best/strongest, so of course cautiously.

Good luck. Don't forget your blood work!

 

[T-Bagger]

I was looking at running about 250-300mg of test a week. For AI I’d be using Aromasin. Seems to be the best/strongest, so of course cautiously.

As the others are saying - only use the AI AS NEEDED. Don’t run it just to run it.

 

[master.on]

Hey everyone,

I’m fairly new to this, with only two previous sarms cycles (I know, baby food) under my belt, and have always read conflicting threads among other forums about which is the better SERM for during, and after an anabolic cycle. Not to mention the ones that run them together.

What would y’all say is the better choice, and possibly why?
(I’m stocked up on Nolvadex, but can switch if Clomid is more beneficial)

Both Nolva and Clomid can cause nasty side effects, like hard to reverse vision problems.

Most people feel "feminine" on Clomid. Not so on Nolva.

As the others are saying - only use the AI AS NEEDED. Don’t run it just to run it.

Agree
HCG should be your main med to avoid shutdown (for steroid cycles, IDK about SARM cycles).

 

[T-Bagger]

Agree
hcg should be your main med to avoid shutdown (for steroid cycles, IDK about SARM cycles).

When you say “avoid shutdown” aren’t you mainly referring to testicular atrophy? The testes will shut down anyway and HCG will only be artificial, will it not?

 

[master.on]

When you say “avoid shutdown” aren’t you mainly referring to testicular atrophy? The testes will shut down anyway and HCG will only be artificial, will it not?

Yes I do
HCG prevents the testis from atrophy
HCG mimics mostly LH, and FSH to a smaller extent.

While HCG shuts down LH/FSH production in the pituitary, it quickly resets after stopping.

 

[PrinceLambo]

Both Nolva and Clomid can cause nasty side effects, like hard to reverse vision problems.

Most people feel "feminine" on Clomid. Not so on Nolva.




Agree
HCG should be your main med to avoid shutdown (for steroid cycles, IDK about SARM cycles).

Do you mean emotional on clomid?
And I haven’t read any first hand experiences mentioning the eyesight issue, have you? I wonder how high the doses were.

I’ve seen mentions of HCG, though I can’t say I’m well versed in it. Is this a must have necessity?

 

[bob357sig]

Do you mean emotional on clomid?
And I haven’t read any first hand experiences mentioning the eyesight issue, have you? I wonder how high the doses were.

I’ve seen mentions of HCG, though I can’t say I’m well versed in it. Is this a must have necessity?

I do not recommend running large doces of clomid especially if you have never used it before. I have used it on its own at 50mg day no problem. Have used it at 50mg day and 20mg nolva day with no problems ither but... pct last cycle I tryed the whole large first week doce 150 mg day... that totally fucked me ip mentally and emotionally!! After 5 days of 150 mg day i was like a scared crying little bitch on pms!!! I literally felt like the world was ending. After my next cycle I will be using nolva again, I will never go over 50 mg day of clomid in the future.

 

[PrinceLambo]

I do not recommend running large doces of clomid especially if you have never used it before. I have used it on its own at 50mg day no problem. Have used it at 50mg day and 20mg nolva day with no problems ither but... pct last cycle I tryed the whole large first week doce 150 mg day... that totally fucked me ip mentally and emotionally!! After 5 days of 150 mg day i was like a scared crying little bitch on pms!!! I literally felt like the world was ending. After my next cycle I will be using nolva again, I will never go over 50 mg day of clomid in the future.

Lol, damn man. I will keep that in mind, and I appreciate the experience input!

 

[bob357sig]

Sorry about my spelling, it has been a long time sence i was in school. lol.

 

[tengtren]

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[PrinceLambo]

No grammar/spelling police around here man. I have a kid too young to spell shit but her name right so I’m used to it lol.

 

[PrinceLambo]

Anyone ever tryd that new shit called Clova?? Turns you right on 2.3435665657775545788766 hours after one dose you read that right pct in a pin that's a full pct in 1 pill folks it's called Clova stock up now you'll never see it again it's almost like it doesn't exist well I just blasted oops just took the only Clova ever to exist I stocked all up im turned back on now too bad time to turn myself off again

#Clova

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[tengtren]

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[T-Bagger]

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