NPP/psychological issues

[Horimono]

Just pinned my first dose of NPP @150mg. I have ran test, Dbol, masteron, EQ, and Anadrol before (not together). I have never had any negative psychological issues with any of the aforementioned. Except abombs made me angry and short tempered. But the NPP is seriously fucking with my brain. I looked into it and saw some things written about it affecting dopamine and serotonin. I kinda feel like I did when I went through some SSRI trials many years ago.

Anxious. Dialated pupils. Irritable. Clouded thinking. Confused. It's affecting my short term memory. Really sucks as I bought 3 bottles to run. Don't know if 150mg was too much of an initial dose (maybe should have started lower and ramped up) or it's just one of those chemicals that is going to affect me in a negative way psychologically. I was hoping to be able to tolerate a 19-nor as I wanted another mass building compound to add to TRT. Unsure if I'm gonna give it another try or cease administration.

 

[Test_Subject]

If you just pinned it, it's 100% placebo. You're freaking out because of something else.

 

[Kinetic]

Agreed. It took weeks before I realized EQ fucked with my anxiety, but I eventually narrowed it down to that compound causing me problems. First 10 +/- weeks, I never noticed anything different.

Sounds like something else is contributing to your anxiety. And, believe me, the more you research anything that may or may not cause anxiety, it's almost guaranteed that your anxiety will rise. I damn near turned myself into a hypochondriac because of these damn interwebs.

 

[Horimono]

No way. Placebo effect can't dialate pupils. I can assure you it's not placebo. Its not mainly anxiety. It's a chemical change in my brain. I didn't research it an get anxiety. I got some psychological effects and changes in my mood 20 min after I pinned it. I could tell my chemistry in my brain has been affected. THEN I looked it up and found some things (on this forum) related to Nandrolone affecting dopamine and serotonin in rats. Studies done by medical doctors.

 

[Test_Subject]

No way. Placebo effect can't dialate pupils. I can assure you it's not placebo. Its not mainly anxiety. It's a chemical change in my brain. I didn't research it an get anxiety. I got some psychological effects and changes in my mood 20 min after I pinned it. I could tell my chemistry in my brain has been affected. THEN I looked it up and found some things (on this forum) related to Nandrolone affecting dopamine and serotonin in rats. Studies done by medical doctors.

You're being paranoid. Phenyl prop has barely started releasing if you just pinned it.

There's actual science to back up what I'm saying. You're freaking out because you expect to.

 

[Horimono]

The Impact of Nandrolone Decanoate on the Central Nervous System

 

[Test_Subject]

The Impact of Nandrolone Decanoate on the Central Nervous System

Look up "ester release."

If you just injected, you have almost no active compound in your system. It's pure chemistry. Argue all that you want.

Also, deca and NPP aren't the same. You'd have even less deca in your system.

 

[Horimono]

Look up "ester release."

If you just injected, you have almost no active compound in your system. It's pure chemistry. Argue all that you want.

Also, deca and NPP aren't the same. You'd have even less deca in your system.

I am not trying to argue with you. I am just sharing my experience and looking for feedback and others experiences with nandrolone. Will all due respect, I have read about ester release. And I am fully aware NPP is not the same thing as ND. I have researched both chemicals extensively. So please don't assume I have not done research and am not aware of nandrolone phenyl prop ester release vs nandrolone decanoate.

You said above "it's pure chemistry". That's my point. It has affected my brain chemistry. Technically I had active compound in my system immediately after injecting. How much that active compound is affecting me both physically and psychologically is debatable. Hence why I am brining it up here.

 

[RingMeister01]

The NPP isn't the issue. You're just a basket case all on your own. NPP and Deca are my favorite compounds. I'm actually very chill on cycle.

Everyone is different I guess

 

[Horimono]

The NPP isn't the issue. You're just a basket case all on your own. NPP and Deca are my favorite compounds. I'm actually very chill on cycle.

Everyone is different I guess

Basket case huh? Whatever lol. Just because they are YOUR favorite compounds doesn't mean someone else is gonna have a negative experience with one.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Npp is a very smooth ride compound. Where did you get this from? What lab? If you say pcom, I would say they fucked IP, because there is another thread I've been following where I'm 99% certain two guys received a mix compound of deca and test when what they tried to order was suppose to be just testosterone.

 

[Horimono]

Npp is a very smooth ride compound. Where did you get this from? What lab? If you say pcom, I would say they fucked IP, because there is another thread I've been following where I'm 99% certain two guys received a mix compound of deca and test when what they tried to order was suppose to be just testosterone.

It's not PCOM. I PM'd you the lab.

 

[tubesox]

Newbie needle shock

 

[SauceBoss]

Sounds like it's just a anxiety brother .. dilated pupils goes hand in hand with anxiety or a panic attack .. I get them sometimes just relax

 

[Nela]

Big fan of npp can't say I've ever had any mental issues on it. Have ran it both high and low dosages. Perhaps come off the npp see if things change.

 

[Horimono]

Newbie needle shock

Ok. Sure. I'm no stranger to injecting myself with drugs bro. lol.

 

[Horimono]

I'm taking a neuro medication called Gabapentin. I'm pretty sure I'm having issues with both gabapentin and nandrolone being in my blood. Maybe I am having side effects that no one else has had, as they don't take this med.

After reading through the literature I posted above, nadrolone affects gabba receptors. Regardless, I'm gonna discontinue it.

 

[Munky]

Do you take preworkouts are ephedrine etc how much test are you running , is there lots of stress in your life lately ?

 

[tubesox]

Ok. Sure. I'm no stranger to injecting myself with drugs bro. lol.

Just bustin your chops dude

 

[Horimono]

Do you take preworkouts are ephedrine etc how much test are you running , is there lots of stress in your life lately ?

No, I do not take PW. I hate stimulants. Only coffee at 6:30 AM. Occasional Coke Zero with dinner. Running 550mg test per week along with 50mg Tbol. No more stress than normal. None of these are the issues.

I feel like I felt when I took a Paxil or Zoloft back in the day when I tried SSRI's. After taking that shit I realized I couldn't tolerate them. Insomnia. Anxiety. Irritable. Dialated pupils. Wired. Confused. The nandrolone is messing with my serotonin somehow. Just like selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors do.