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NPP vs DECA mental sides?

jimheath

jimheath

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I have recently had my first go with deca, and it was a complete mess, bad anxiety, depression, and just shitty feeling overall mentally. My question is have many of you that also experience this with deca also experience the same with npp? or do you not get the same mental sides with the shorter acting nand?

I have seen a lot of anecdotes telling that while deca makes them feel like shit, npp does the opposite and makes them feel great. One example would be that youtube dude that charges a bunch for a homebrew vid if you know who I mean, but have also seen reports of this in forum threads from people.

Also, if you do actually feel different from one ester to the other, why do you think this may be? Maybe the shorter half life doesn't allow for enough to be in long enough for the shitty effects? Kinda like tapping your hand on a hot stove rather than holding it on it? Or is everyone claiming this all suffering from the placebo effect bro science?
 
I've never had a problem with either, and i can't tell the difference between either. But you're gonna hear claims to go the other way.
 
Nope. What anabolics and other drugs are you using? What was the time course of onset? Has anything else changed in you life, including diet/training/life stressors?

I don't know how experienced you are and I'm not saying this is the case with you, but many times the drug is attributed to the subjective experience but it is really due to another environmental factor.
 
As mentioned above were you running anything else? Deca makes me feel great, ran it with eq one time and I think that shit crashed me. Cause I was also a mess
 
dokdonia said:
Nope. What anabolics and other drugs are you using? What was the time course of onset? Has anything else changed in you life, including diet/training/life stressors?

I don't know how experienced you are and I'm not saying this is the case with you, but many times the drug is attributed to the subjective experience but it is really due to another environmental factor.
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Just ran some test e at 500mg a week with it. I really noticed the numb and anxiety feeling around week 5. Just disappointing to me if I can’t run any nand, because I was making some of the best gains I have. That’s why I was hoping some of the npp claims had any merit.
 
I did a run with NPP about a year ago along side Test C. Dropped it after 3 wks because of mental sides. After about five days of dropping it I felt fine again. I am trying again this blast at a lower dose of 150mg, still have similar sides but less, makes me hesitant to increase. I've heard from guys on other forums similar issues, but AAS hits everyone differently.
 
insertfunnamehere said:
I did a run with NPP about a year ago along side Test C. Dropped it after 3 wks because of mental sides. After about five days of dropping it I felt fine again. I am trying again this blast at a lower dose of 150mg, still have similar sides but less, makes me hesitant to increase. I've heard from guys on other forums similar issues, but AAS hits everyone differently.
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Damn that’s disappointing. For me, the brain fog and numbness was just too much. Maybe for some people they can just handle it better. At first I was hoping it was just placebo. Like “oh I don’t feel right, let me see what it is”.. then see it’s a common thing with deca.. and then let it snowball and blame it on it. But it was for sure the deca I think. I’ve been off it for around a week, and tbh I notice some of the sides are already fading. They’re still there, but less than before. I was hoping with npp maybe I could run it until I can’t take the mental sides, then drop it quick since it’s an in quick, out quick.
 
jimheath said:
Damn that’s disappointing. For me, the brain fog and numbness was just too much. Maybe for some people they can just handle it better. At first I was hoping it was just placebo. Like “oh I don’t feel right, let me see what it is”.. then see it’s a common thing with deca.. and then let it snowball and blame it on it. But it was for sure the deca I think. I’ve been off it for around a week, and tbh I notice some of the sides are already fading. They’re still there, but less than before. I was hoping with npp maybe I could run it until I can’t take the mental sides, then drop it quick since it’s an in quick, out quick.
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That's why I went with the NPP. It seems like 2 -3 wks is when it starts to be an issue. I pinned 50mg last night, think I'll let it roll. It's tough to find an injectable that's easy on the hair that doesn't have shitty sides. I suppose I'm glad I didn't get deca dick as well, that would have made things so much worse.
 
I start having weird thoughts on deca, like I wanna do bad things to people, don’t have those thoughts as often on any other AAS, but I notice them frequently on deca, running 600mg of it right now lol.

it doesn’t really bother me, I wouldn’t act on them, and it’s not like I feel this way in a response to somthing so I’m not worried about lashing out, just think about the stuff randomly.
 
Never been a problem for me with either. I run NPP these days as I find the water weight (although still there) is less on it than with the longer ester. Personal preference.
 
Ive only ran test and mast in the past. recently ran 300mg npp and for the first time was feeling jealous, insecure and slightly sorry for myself. It wasn't unbearable, but after a few weeks, I was like, "damn, I'm not normally like this". I ran it for about 8-9 weeks then stopped for surgery.

I think part of it was my sex drive shot up between getting back on trt and throwing in some npp and popping cialis like skittles, and my ol lady wasn't ready for the huge upswing in libido and it fucked with me. but we good, we bang all the time, I just wanted to bang all day and she didn't want to be my fuck doll lol
 
NPP made me feel like absolute garbage mentally. Physically great.
Mentally I was numb and kind of just oblivious to things I shouldn’t have been. It just made me mean and blunted to other people’s feelings.
 
Ran npp for about 5 weeks before I had to drop it. Mental sides came on slowly around 3 weeks and got too bad around week 5. Got extremely jealous to the point is was effecting my relationship and in my right mind I had nothing to be jealous about but I couldn't control my thoughts to save my life. Chose npp over deca so it would be out quicker and I'm glad i did. Hadn't been in a headspace that bad in a long time
 
For the guys who had mental sides with deca/npp..

Have you suffered from depression and/or anxiety in the past? Would you say you have a history with it or maybe just bouts here and there?
 
Fattyone said:
For the guys who had mental sides with deca/npp..

Have you suffered from depression and/or anxiety in the past? Would you say you have a history with it or maybe just bouts here and there?
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I have have suffered from depression in the past. Maybe that does have a large role in if it effects you like that. I think that maybe the nandrolone just puts you on a tightrope, and smaller and less important things can push you over the edge.
 
canadian mutant said:
its the same steroid what do u think
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I would think this logic if it weren't for all of the anecdotal reports of npp being better for mental health. Granted that's all they are, anecdotes. I was simply interested in seeing if anyone here has had similar experiences. no need to be a meanie.
 
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