Ode to Masteron E

[Biglittlejoe]

Dearest friend, Masteron E,
How I miss thee.
Long lost friend, wilt thou ever return?
I have missed thou deeply since thy sudden and unexpected adjourn.
Shall I have to carry on my lonesome life forever without thee swimming in my blood?
Please, Oh My Sweet Masteron E, please return to make my life good!

 

[RockyP]

There's plenty of Mast P to be had. It's a little extra injection volume but for most guys it's not a dealbreaker.

Would also add I’ve tried some mast P 200 from a few vendors. The pip is manageable but they tend to crash. Not all of them but def a few. Not a big deal. Easy fix.

 

[Biglittlejoe]

Honestly despite extensive use of Masteron E, I have never used Masteron P. Does it cause PIP like Test E? I really hate Test P because I always get non trivial pain at the injection site

There's plenty of Mast P to be had. It's a little extra injection volume but for most guys it's not a dealbreaker.

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[RockyP]

Honestly despite extensive use of Masteron E, I have never used Masteron P. Does it cause PIP like Test E? I really hate Test P because I always get non trivial pain at the injection site


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At 100/ml no pip from Mast P for me

 

[IndividualMan]

Honestly despite extensive use of Masteron E, I have never used Masteron P. Does it cause PIP like Test E? I really hate Test P because I always get non trivial pain at the injection site


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at 100mg/ml, no. just add .5 ml to.75 ml every injection and you will be good

 

[RockyP]

Mast P 100 served athletes and bodybuilders for decades - it's a pain if you're running a gram of it, but most of us aren't anywhere near that. Until Mast E returns it's all we've got. And my 2 cents is to avoid the high concentration stuff. PIP, crashing, etc. It's not a huge deal but why bother with that? Best to just stick with 100/ml.

 

[Biglittlejoe]

Good to know Masteron P isn’t painful, but I like to run Masteron E at 240 mg per week for my permacruise with 280 mg test cyp. I do 2 injections per week. The idea of pinning EOD is not appealing.

 

[professionaldyel]

I genuinely dont understand the craze.

Primo gets pushed by the biggest creators in the space

Primo out of stock > they push mast

Mast out of stock > they push DHB.

its a mediocre drug that doesn't do much positively.

 

[RockyP]

I genuinely dont understand the craze.

Primo gets pushed by the biggest creators in the space

Primo out of stock > they push mast

Mast out of stock > they push DHB.

its a mediocre drug that doesn't do much positively.

A lot of pro's and top national competitors run masteron in the off season and they don't do it for cosmetic reasons. Nothing works for everyone, but I think that there's been so much urban legend about Mast being just a hardener and a cosmetic agent that guys use it when cutting at marked calorie deficits, so what else would one expect from it? Then of course there's the Todd Lee factor of him talking out of his ass about Masteron and everything else, but his hyping of Mast def has not helped the shortage.

I know some guys get dry skin, hair falling out, prostate issues, dry joints etc from Mast, but there are a lot of high level athletes that use it both off season and pre-contest and do very well with it. I think for some of these larger guys running several grams of gear per week, the choice of mast comes down to needing to drive the total MG amount up and it's what they tolerate the best after Test and something like EQ or primo. If you need 3 grams to grow and you're already running a Gram of test and 800 of primo / EQ, where is that other 1200 going to come from? It can't come from Tren or Deca / NPP, but for a lot of guys they can run a gram or more of mast without negative effects.

 

[professionaldyel]

A lot of pro's and top national competitors run masteron in the off season and they don't do it for cosmetic reasons.

those "pros and top national competitors" are using because primo isn't accessible anymore. That's literally the only reason lol. Mast being the secondary anabolic to test has never been a thing in the off season until the last year and a half.

 

[RockyP]

those "pros and top national competitors" are using because primo isn't accessible anymore. That's literally the only reason lol. Mast being the secondary anabolic to test has never been a thing in the off season until the last year and a half.

they would not be using it if it was “a mediocre drug that doesn’t do much positively”. Can’t have it both ways brother. It’s either a shit drug or they are using it because it’s the next best thing.

 

[professionaldyel]

having to use nearly a gram of something for it to have a positive effect makes it a shit drug. Its really that simple. I have nearly 40 vials of it and refuse to use it.

 

[watchtymeflyyy]

It can't come from Tren or Deca / NPP, but for a lot of guys they can run a gram or more of mast without negative effects.

It can’t??

 

[RockyP]

It can’t??

Most guys don’t run 1200 of nandrolone - but if you do pls let us know how that goes

 

[Eddie.]

How come so many people love a ped which does almost nothing on building muscle is something I'll never understand.

 

[RockyP]

How come so many people love a ped which does almost nothing on building muscle is something I'll never understand.

I think the real challenge for the masteron lovers (who say it builds tissue) would be to have them run their test dosage by itself (with an AI if needed) for 12-16 weeks and keep a log book of everything. Then next time around, run whatever mast dosage they want alongside it and compare. The argument against mast being a tissue builder seems to come when guys run it high along with high test (like 700/700) - and it’s like, well how do you know your gains aren’t just from the test?

I have heard a lot of guys say that running it instead of primo (because they can’t get primo) has essentially made no difference compared to primo.

 

[watchtymeflyyy]

Most guys don’t run 1200 of nandrolone - but if you do pls let us know how that goes

With a 19nor.… I don’t think you need a higher milligram need. And I think that total MG need to grow is bullshit. 1000 mg of Mast couldn’t hold a candle to 300 MG of Tren. I think it all depends on compound choice and what you react to better. Too much Masteron and u end up looking like Dr. Todd Lee LMAO.

 

[Eddie.]

I think the real challenge for the masteron lovers (who say it builds tissue) would be to have them run their test dosage by itself (with an AI if needed) for 12-16 weeks and keep a log book of everything. Then next time around, run whatever mast dosage they want alongside it and compare. The argument against mast being a tissue builder seems to come when guys run it high along with high test (like 700/700) - and it’s like, well how do you know your gains aren’t just from the test?

I have heard a lot of guys say that running it instead of primo (because they can’t get primo) has essentially made no difference compared to primo.

Exactly, like I've said many times for Jewett. Guy runs 1350-1700 test and people think masteron is what gives him gains lol

 

[RockyP]

With a 19nor.… I don’t think you need a higher milligram need. And I think that total MG need to grow is bullshit. 1000 mg of Mast couldn’t hold a candle to 300 MG of Tren. I think it all depends on compound choice and what you react to better. Too much Masteron and u end up looking like Dr. Todd Lee LMAO.

I agree Todd is a fool. And I agree more is def not better with the 19-nor. I get plenty of punch from 200 NPP and 210 Tren.

But the total mg amount is not applicable to you and me. It’s for the super heavy open guys. They all say it, they all practice it. That said, that total mg amount is very individual from person to person. But there are a lot of guys running a gram of mast in their off season cycles (likely in part due to not being able to get primo) alongside test and nandrolone. Perhaps they’re running so much mast BECAUSE it’s so weak?? I really don’t know I never plan to run that much lol

 

[RockyP]

Exactly, like I've said many times for Jewett. Guy runs 1350-1700 test and people think masteron is what gives him gains lol

He’s always talking about reliability of compound. Which makes me think he himself can’t find legit primo and may have just given up and went to Mast instead. Hollingshead has said the same. He prefers mast because of higher concentration of the enan preps and less likely to be faked. But James is the kind of guy that grows just by looking at the weights. So idk.